Recruiting Forum: UNofficial Mizzou Pre-Game Thread

[volfanCLT]

Don't know where the marked improvement will come from on OL. Got three juniors/RS juniors getting killed. Maybe the freshmen will be better.

Otherwise, I'd like our chances to get to ATL.

How many starts did those guys have before this year, though? They might be upperclassmen, but they had no SEC experience playing behind NFL talent.

They won't be all world next year, but should be improved after a year of hard knocks.

 

[jave36]

I really think their DL substantially hurt our TE passing game. Why? Because their LBs didn't have to over commit to the run nor did they have to blitz. They could sit in that intermediate area where our TEs usually do their best work.

I meant blocking.

 

[InVOLuntary]

My opinion has always been 6 regular season wins this year, 8-9 next year, then competing for championships after that. Still on schedule.

I don't really think next year will be much better. The OL is a multi year fix.

 

[jave36]

Good reports from Blair coming out, Kendrick looked serviceable this year and will be better next year, move Kerbyson inside where he belongs, Robertson is a year better. Wildcard could be someone like Richmond coming in and taking a tackle spot as a freshman.

Blair could be the key for sure. A decent OT would have been worth 1.5W this year.

 

[volfanCLT]

Play call some help with the TEs

TE were covered fairly well. Hard to take advantage when they could get such good pressure only rushing 4.

 

[Vol knight]

so.......is there any chance we lose to Vandy?

I haven't watched them in a few weeks. Are they still really bad?

They got shut out 51-0 tonight against a Miss State team that's struggled on defense.

 

[31VFL]

There isn't a play I hate more than when we roll the qb and hit the TE, who is rolling with the QB, for about a 1 yard dump off. It results in the TE getting hit in the knees everytime. I was afraid Helm was hurt when it happened tonight.

 

[jave36]

TE were covered fairly well. Hard to take advantage when they could get such good pressure only rushing 4.

I meant use them to help block since Mizzou DL were getting pressure against just our 5 OL every play.

 

[C-town Vol]

I meant blocking.

gotcha.....

I noticed we sent TEs and RBs to chip on the edges quite a bit tonight. They were killing us up the middle with those stunts. I'm not an expert so I don't know if the TEs can help with that or not.

 

[Aesius]

so.......is there any chance we lose to Vandy?

I haven't watched them in a few weeks. Are they still really bad?

Vandy is still absolutely atrocious.

 

[SigNu_VolFan]

If this were last year, we would've had a new commit by now.

 

[jave36]

gotcha.....

I noticed we sent TEs and RBs to chip on the edges quite a bit tonight. They were killing us up the middle with those stunts. I'm not an expert so I don't know if the TEs can help with that or not.

Gotta do more than chip, use them to help double team.

 

[Aesius]

The people saying the OL isn't a one year fix are correct. The good news is that we won't face many defensive fronts like Mizzou's next year.

 

[WebbCobb]

Play call some help with the TEs

Had just as much trouble, if not more, in the interior.

 

[jjay2518]

I don't really think next year will be much better. The OL is a multi year fix.

I would argue that with the ridiculously small number of players we graduate and the huge number of freshmen we're playing, we'll be moderately better next year. OL still won't be good but will be serviceable. Every other position group should be improved as well.

 

[C-town Vol]

Gotta do more than chip, use them to help double team.

I hear ya...but again, they did a TON of damage with stunts that caught our interior guys out of position/off balance. I think our OL was confused as much as they were over powered tonight.

 

[jave36]

Had just as much trouble, if not more, in the interior.

True. Cut the outside pressure in half though, and that would have opened up 10 or so chances for our WR to get open farther than 2 yards down field.

 

[VolGee4]

I don't really think next year will be much better. The OL is a multi year fix.

I do with what I have seen with Dobbs now. Earlier in the year, I would have agreed. But if we play an above average DL or worse, Dobbs is good enough. We may still struggle with elite defensive lines. Give me wins against 3 bad OOC games, UK, Vandy, Arkansas, and USC. Let's play ball with the others, and our defensive line will be much improved to slow them down. JMO.

 

[jave36]

I hear ya...but again, they did a TON of damage with stunts that caught our interior guys out of position/off balance. I think our OL was confused as much as they were over powered tonight.

You're right, still would have had problems, but 10 or so pressures/hurries/sacks came from outside.

 

[SigNu_VolFan]

We set a record for true freshmen started in a game and play the likely SEC East champs to a 1 possession game. It's the small things.

 

[C-town Vol]

If the OL can incrementally improve the next 2-3 years we will be fine. I hope no one expects miracles with that unit next year. We just need improvement and a little luck on the injury front.

 

[WTNVol2]

No whining about the calls. Let's man up and admit that Mizzou just beat us.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I would argue that with the ridiculously small number of players we graduate and the huge number of freshmen we're playing, we'll be moderately better next year. OL still won't be good but will be serviceable. Every other position group should be improved as well.

Not disagreeing J but the games are won in the trenches and we'll lose most of those matchups on the Oline.

 

[Aesius]

This loss feels like Georgia. It sucks but I'm not devastated. Butch will run up the score on Vandy in our last home game.

 

[jjay2518]

Had just as much trouble, if not more, in the interior.

Communication on the inside was definitely broken. I wonder if that was due to Crowder was being out.