Recruiting.

#2
#2
so he had an offer from us? kinda small for the SEC, but dynamite comes in small packages
 
#3
#3
i think you will see more and more of this as phil has a unranked recruiting year this year. just my opinion.
 
#4
#4
It's only one recruit, but Spurrier beat UT off the field this time.Hope this isn't contagious. :banghead:
 
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I think two of our recruits so far had offers from USC. So what? Are we winning now then....come on people. Smokedog you just crack me up with the same dull response over and over again. If you seriously think this recruiting class will be unranked then you're judgement is impaired. Will it be top5? Of course not. Will it be top 25, without a doubt. Do you understand the amount of 4 and even 5 star recruits that have UTK in their top 5 after a 5-6 season and no games played to show improvement? What about when we take the field and show we are not the same team as last season? That number will grow. Add to that the fact that every commit we have right now that is 'non-star graded' will be at least a 3 star, and I venture that maybe 1 or 2 will bump up to 4 star in the final ratings. The only thing that would be responsible for us not have a top 25 class is if our win total is less than 7. If that happens then we will certainly lose recruits before signing day and it will not be pretty. But, if we win 7 games (which I think will happen without question) then we will have a solid recruiting class in terms of the ol' mighty rivals stars. And, more importantly will have a solid class coming in and getting developed unlike the previous.....oh decade or so.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
i think you will see more and more of this as phil has a unranked recruiting year this year. just my opinion.


You're kind of off. Let me explain. Kids don't choose a school over UT because UT was 23rd in recruiting last year. Recruiting rankings don't have a whole heck of a lot to do with kids. Wins and losses do. This is merely consequences from a 5 win season.
 
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(VolinArizona @ Jun 30 said:
You're kind of off. Let me explain. Kids don't choose a school over UT because UT was 23rd in recruiting last year. Recruiting rankings don't have a whole heck of a lot to do with kids. Wins and losses do. This is merely consequences from a 5 win season.
yeah we tend to forget that we went 5-6 when it comes to recruiting. when most schools go 5-6 they are lucky to be in the top 50 much less top 25.
 
#9
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
i think you will see more and more of this as phil has a unranked recruiting year this year. just my opinion.

Missing out on the occasional kid from North Carolina is not a sign that we will have an unranked recruiting class, that Fulmer has lost his touch, or that Spurrier is outrecruiting us. Spurrier is not recruiting any better than Lou Holtz did during his time in Columbia. S.C. will not outrecruit us on a consistent basis anytime soon. They may have Spurrier, but they don't have the stadium, facilities, academic support, overall talent, tradition, or gameday atmosphere that we have. Other than a 100 year history of mediocrity, all they have is a dump for a stadium and a legendary coach for the next year or two.
 
#10
#10
that is alot of if's folks. what three things cause recruits to choose schools. trying to get to the NFL, WIN a title or go to BCS bowls, and early playing time. jason allen broke our streak of years not having a 1st round pick last year, but the other 2 are huge negatives for UT. fulmer always likes to redshirt his talent, and we haven't been to a major bowl since 99 and there is no reason to think that we are going to anytime soon. wow we got cut back, there is a point everybody is missing. where is peyton, tee , jamal , travis , price and great offensive line that was there when cut was there prior. it isn't there. very young o-line and a QB that has made very bad plays under pressure in the past. you guys are acting like adding cut is going to make our offense a instant improvement, it's not going to happen. we will have to rely on our D early in the year and by the end of the year they will be drained. we will be a borderline Top 25 recruiting class, but in no way would i be surprised if we were on the outside looking in. i also see us unranked at the end of the year. you get away from from knoxville and talk to other fans around the country they have the same opinion. talk to gator i bet you we scare the hell out of them. we don't scare anybody and i think Cal will prove that in the first game. i hope i'm wrong, but i'm not going to be one of the many that is going to be in a uproar after they kick us around. some of you guys need to wake up, are we going to be better, yes. by leaps and bounds no. a 7 win season will kill our recruiting. :banghead:
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
that is alot of if's folks. what three things cause recruits to choose schools. trying to get to the NFL, WIN a title or go to BCS bowls, and early playing time. jason allen broke our streak of years not having a 1st round pick last year, but the other 2 are huge negatives for UT. fulmer always likes to redshirt his talent, and we haven't been to a major bowl since 99 and there is no reason to think that we are going to anytime soon. wow we got cut back, there is a point everybody is missing. where is peyton, tee , jamal , travis , price and great offensive line that was there when cut was there prior. it isn't there. very young o-line and a QB that has made very bad plays under pressure in the past. you guys are acting like adding cut is going to make our offense a instant improvement, it's not going to happen. we will have to rely on our D early in the year and by the end of the year they will be drained. we will be a borderline Top 25 recruiting class, but in no way would i be surprised if we were on the outside looking in. i also see us unranked at the end of the year. you get away from from knoxville and talk to other fans around the country they have the same opinion. talk to gator i bet you we scare the hell out of them. we don't scare anybody and i think Cal will prove that in the first game. i hope i'm wrong, but i'm not going to be one of the many that is going to be in a uproar after they kick us around. some of you guys need to wake up, are we going to be better, yes. by leaps and bounds no. a 7 win season will kill our recruiting. :banghead:
that is retarted. that is all.



not calling you a retard.
 
#12
#12
tell me something balls, if ty was still at notre dame would they be landing a top 5 class every year. the answer is no. notre dame will entrench itself in the BCS for years to come and in my opinion we will never catch up. i think we will never be in the same class as florida in recruiting. a top 5 finish and a sec crown from meyer and watch out. :banghead:
 
#13
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
tell me something balls, if ty was still at notre dame would they be landing a top 5 class every year. the answer is no. notre dame will entrench itself in the BCS for years to come and in my opinion we will never catch up. i think we will never be in the same class as florida in recruiting. a top 5 finish and a sec crown from meyer and watch out. :banghead:
As far as Florida recruiting goes in comparison to Tennessee, with Florida having roughly 10 million more people living there, they would IMO have an advantage right off the bat.Florida has always been a hotbed for good recruits no doubt.
 
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(utfantilidie @ Jun 30 said:
As far as Florida recruiting goes in comparison to Tennessee, with Florida having roughly 10 million more people living there, they would IMO have an advantage right off the bat.Florida has always been a hotbed for good recruits no doubt.

i agree with that along with great weather.
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
tell me something balls, if ty was still at notre dame would they be landing a top 5 class every year. the answer is no. notre dame will entrench itself in the BCS for years to come and in my opinion we will never catch up. i think we will never be in the same class as florida in recruiting. a top 5 finish and a sec crown from meyer and watch out. :banghead:

first of all what you are saying about UT and ND makes no sense. ND was bad untill Weis got there and now they are a lot better. So when we go from good to bad we can never get back to good? Remember ND was bad for more than one year and they got back to this form. One bad year is much easier to come back from than multiple years.

second of all we got the #1 (or 2 depending on who you listen too)recruiting class a few years ago. correct me if im wrong but i dont think you can get higher than that.

and thank you Miss Cleo for telling me who is going to win the sec, now i dont even need to waste my time watching the games.
 
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(vols kick balls @ Jun 30 said:
first of all what you are saying about UT and ND makes no sense. ND was bad untill Weis got there and now they are a lot better. So when we go from good to bad we can never get back to good? Remember ND was bad for more than one year and they got back to this form. One bad year is much easier to come back from than multiple years.

second of all we got the #1 (or 2 depending on who you listen too)recruiting class a few years ago. correct me if im wrong but i dont think you can get higher than that.

and thank you Miss Cleo for telling me who is going to win the sec, now i dont even need to waste my time watching the games.

i didn't have to say a word you made my point. amazing what a simple coaching change can do for a program and there recruiting. that is the reason why we are on the way down and the ND is skyrocketing to the top. i'm not saying we can't be good, but i've seen what fulmer has done with top 5 recruiting classes and i'm not impressed in recent years. he reminds me of zook. when our offense has looked non explosive since 01 that is a good reason for recruits to stay away. face facts it is probably going to be another bad recruiting year for the vols. alot of teams are on there way up in the sec and we are stuck at 3 or 4 in the east.
 
#17
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
face facts it is probably going to be another bad recruiting year for the vols.

Why do we have to go through this every time any kid commits to another school? :disappointed:
 
#18
#18
smokedog, if your going to try and rip tennessee, at least do it with facts and a good argument. everything you are saying is a waste of time for me to read. Tennessee will never be able to out recruit florida? we are always in the top 10, sometimes top 5, last year we weren't and now we will never be able to recruit again? god just think before you post. Are you seriously talking about ND returning and we will never catch up? ty willingham had one good year too, look what happend with him. You can't say a team is going to be great for years to come cause you never know whats going to happen.
 
#19
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(vols2345 @ Jun 30 said:
smokedog, if your going to try and rip tennessee, at least do it with facts and a good argument. everything you are saying is a waste of time for me to read. Tennessee will never be able to out recruit florida? we are always in the top 10, sometimes top 5, last year we weren't and now we will never be able to recruit again? god just think before you post. Are you seriously talking about ND returning and we will never catch up? ty willingham had one good year too, look what happend with him. You can't say a team is going to be great for years to come cause you never know whats going to happen.

you have to be kidding right. two new hot coaches killing us in recruiting for the second year in a row. if we landed nothing but 4 star players the rest of the way we couldn't catch them. weis already has been to the BCS in his first year something we haven't done since 99. meyer will have to have a good year to carry the mojo, but i'm picking them to win the sec. ty by the way never recruited like weis does and is not in the same category of coach as weis is. when we are going to the music city bowl or no bowl at all our recruiting is going to tank. the only way this can change is if we look pretty good on offense and score some points , we can change some kids minds. even Cut says they haven't found a way to put the ball in the endzone so i'm not optomistic. we are going to have to look like we belong, with a young line it is going to be hard. not impossible but hard. odds are against us.
 
#20
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(smokedog#3 @ Jun 30 said:
meyer will have to have a good year to carry the mojo, but i'm picking them to win the sec. ty by the way never recruited like weis does and is not in the same category of coach as weis is. when we are going to the music city bowl or no bowl at all our recruiting is going to tank. the only way this can change is if we look pretty good on offense and score some points , we can change some kids minds.

our recruiting class is going to tank? thats nice of you to say about kids who you haven't even seen play on the field. go back to your basment and have your mom make pizza rolls.
 
#21
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(vols2345 @ Jun 30 said:
our recruiting class is going to tank? thats nice of you to say about kids who you haven't even seen play on the field. go back to your basment and have your mom make pizza rolls.
You should know he loves to bash high school football players. Just go look what he and rexvol were saying bout BJ in one of the recruiting threads.
 
#22
#22
I know its quiet disturbing that he could say anything like this about 17 year olds.
 
#23
#23
(vols kick balls @ Jun 30 said:
You should know he loves to bash high school football players. Just go look what he and rexvol were saying bout BJ in one of the recruiting threads.

never ripped the kid or said he couldn't play, said there were alot better more highly rated prospects out there.
 

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