Religious leadership on this team and Bryce Brown...

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#203
I'm kinda tired of this stereotype that just because someone is religious, it makes them a good person. Me, I'm not religious in the least, and yet I'm not a bad person. That's one of the many reasons i couldn't stand Tebow. The media made him out to look like mother teresa because of his religion. Look, i'm sure Tebow's a fine young man, but it isn't his religion that makes him that. Did you know that 98% of US prison inmates identify themselves as religious, with 72% of that number identifying themselves as "very" religious. Just saying, maybe not all the players are religious, and if they aren't, i wouldn't think any less of them than any christian, jew, or muslim on the team. That is if said player is doing what he's supposed to do.:thumbsup:
 
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orangepridenation said:
I'm kinda tired of this stereotype that just because someone is religious, it makes them a good person. Me, I'm not religious in the least, and yet I'm not a bad person. That's one of the many reasons i couldn't stand Tebow. The media made him out to look like mother teresa because of his religion. Look, i'm sure Tebow's a fine young man, but it isn't his religion that makes him that. Did you know that 98% of US prison inmates identify themselves as religious, with 72% of that number identifying themselves as "very" religious. Just saying, maybe not all the players are religious, and if they aren't, i wouldn't think any less of them than any christian, jew, or muslim on the team. That is if said player is doing what he's supposed to do.:thumbsup:
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Do you have a link to those stats???
 
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orangepridenation said:
I'm kinda tired of this stereotype that just because someone is religious, it makes them a good person. Me, I'm not religious in the least, and yet I'm not a bad person. That's one of the many reasons i couldn't stand Tebow. The media made him out to look like mother teresa because of his religion. Look, i'm sure Tebow's a fine young man, but it isn't his religion that makes him that. Did you know that 98% of US prison inmates identify themselves as religious, with 72% of that number identifying themselves as "very" religious. Just saying, maybe not all the players are religious, and if they aren't, i wouldn't think any less of them than any christian, jew, or muslim on the team. That is if said player is doing what he's supposed to do.:thumbsup:
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Many people find religion after they commit a crime. TOOOO Bad, they did not find it before they committed the crime. At least that is what the victims wish, if they survived.:vava:
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Many people find religion after they commit a crime. TOOOO Bad, they did not find it before they committed the crime. At least that is what the victims wish, if they survived.:vava:
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Sorry, I'm not buying that for a second. I'm sure some of them may find religion, because, well, they really have nothing left to live for. Especially those on death row. But most of them didn't just find jesus when they went to prison, they were just looking for pity and/or redemption. Basic psychology, he who commits a travesty that he is fully aware of, will cause himself guilt. Immense guilt will lead a person to creat mental barriers in their mind that prevents them from healthy function. Therefore, they feel the need to break this barrier with something they've always been taught was a good thing(religion is the perfect example), and in allowing it to consume their mind, can make the travesty seem obsolete in their mind.
 
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#211
Hi, my name is orangepridenation and I think I am....

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orangepridenation said:
Sorry, I'm not buying that for a second. I'm sure some of them may find religion, because, well, they really have nothing left to live for. Especially those on death row. But most of them didn't just find jesus when they went to prison, they were just looking for pity and/or redemption. Basic psychology, he who commits a travesty that he is fully aware of, will cause himself guilt. Immense guilt will lead a person to creat mental barriers in their mind that prevents them from healthy function. Therefore, they feel the need to break this barrier with something they've always been taught was a good thing(religion is the perfect example), and in allowing it to consume their mind, can make the travesty seem obsolete in their mind.
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I was being sarcastic. I agree with you 100%.
 
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orangepridenation said:
I'm kinda tired of this stereotype that just because someone is religious, it makes them a good person. Me, I'm not religious in the least, and yet I'm not a bad person. That's one of the many reasons i couldn't stand Tebow. The media made him out to look like mother teresa because of his religion. Look, i'm sure Tebow's a fine young man, but it isn't his religion that makes him that. Did you know that 98% of US prison inmates identify themselves as religious, with 72% of that number identifying themselves as "very" religious. Just saying, maybe not all the players are religious, and if they aren't, i wouldn't think any less of them than any christian, jew, or muslim on the team. That is if said player is doing what he's supposed to do.:thumbsup:
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I have several very close friends that are the best people that you will ever meet. Kind hearted and would give you the shirt off of thier back. They have never darkened the doors of a church.
I also attend church with dozens of people that are there every time the doors are open. They are people that I would not want my worst enemy to hang out with and would cheat you any chance that they have.
I will tell you the same thing that I tell my very close, non Christian, friends. The Bible says that you are not saved. It is up to each individual to decide if they will accept Christ. Whether or not they have done this does not determine how I treat them or if I am friends with them.

OK, I'm stepping off the box now......carry on.
 
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orangepridenation said:
Sorry, I'm not buying that for a second. I'm sure some of them may find religion, because, well, they really have nothing left to live for. Especially those on death row. But most of them didn't just find jesus when they went to prison, they were just looking for pity and/or redemption. Basic psychology, he who commits a travesty that he is fully aware of, will cause himself guilt. Immense guilt will lead a person to creat mental barriers in their mind that prevents them from healthy function. Therefore, they feel the need to break this barrier with something they've always been taught was a good thing(religion is the perfect example), and in allowing it to consume their mind, can make the travesty seem obsolete in their mind.
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Ah....excuse me.....now who is "stereotyping"?
 
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T-TownVol said:
and........you have had discussions with these men and women?
yeah.....there is NO WAY that they can be sincere and have found JC.
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No, i haven't had conversations with all of them. But just look at the numbers, according to statistics, roughly 85 percent of U.S. citizens identify themselves as religious. But 98 percent of Prison inmates call themselves religious. So why is the prison number substantially higher? And not all of them find "JC", some of them find Muhammad, some of them find Buddha, some of them probably find the possibility of reincarnation. My point is, is that these people who have committed crimes that have landed them in these situations usually find something to fill the "hole" in their lives left by the situation. It doesn't have to be Jesus, it can be any number of religious figures. And the numbers show it.
 
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orangepridenation said:
No, i haven't had conversations with all of them. But just look at the numbers, according to statistics, roughly 85 percent of U.S. citizens identify themselves as religious. But 98 percent of Prison inmates call themselves religious. So why is the prison number substantially higher? And not all of them find "JC", some of them find Muhammad, some of them find Buddha, some of them probably find the possibility of reincarnation. My point is, is that these people who have committed crimes that have landed them in these situations usually find something to fill the "hole" in their lives left by the situation. It doesn't have to be Jesus, it can be any number of religious figures. And the numbers show it.
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I am 100% sure that you have no idea what you are talking about. But, I will give you this much, it sounds GREAT for your end of this discussion.
I do prison ministry. I have not been to a prison yet that has any where near that percentage of inmates that have found "religion" of any form.
 
#221
#221
Buddah rules. The rest are pretenders. Screw the southern babtists mindset. Long live Buddah.
 
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T-TownVol said:
Great tune...I have met him....He is fun to be around...."we fixin to have some church up in here"

Could not have play that in our churches growing up could we OE?
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I can't speak for your church, but the first problem would be is that he is african american.

:banghead2:
 
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