85SugarVol
I prefer the tumult of Liberty
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2010
- Messages
- 32,020
- Likes
- 62,785
The one time I’ve done that I was selling to an individual in another state also. Idk if that changes anything
I don't know. Let's say Sam has purchased 50 guns over the past year and 2 have been discovered at crime scenes. I do not know what happens at that point. Is he charged with something? Does he lose his right to purchase firearms for awhile? Forever?Are you saying if a legal buyer was consistently found to have their guns wind up in the hands of undocumented owners, there wouldn't be severe consequences? I am taking you at face value when you say multi sales are a big problem. Big, consistent problems typically don't go unchecked sans consequences.
Could we apply that rule to Uncle Sam? Seems to me that the ATF is a stellar source for illegal weapons. We also left a couple weapons behind in Afghanistan. Yet the government has the audacity to try to make it difficult for law abiding US citizens to exercise their constitutional rights to purchase firearms.I don't know. Let's say Sam has purchased 50 guns over the past year and 2 have been discovered at crime scenes. I do not know what happens at that point. Is he charged with something? Does he lose his right to purchase firearms for awhile? Forever?
If it's nothing more than a little slap on the wrist, then Sam will keep on.
I don’t think there’s any law to prevent you from meeting up with someone at an FFL and have them pay the fee for the FFL do the background check if you want to be really safe. I would assume that would be a must when selling across state lines.
According to the ATF website, bulk purchasers must fill out forms allowing for those weapons to be tracked. Bulk-purchased guns used by prohibited persons or in crimes is evidence of trafficking.I don't know. Let's say Sam has purchased 50 guns over the past year and 2 have been discovered at crime scenes. I do not know what happens at that point. Is he charged with something? Does he lose his right to purchase firearms for awhile? Forever?
If it's nothing more than a little slap on the wrist, then Sam will keep on.
I don't know. Let's say Sam has purchased 50 guns over the past year and 2 have been discovered at crime scenes. I do not know what happens at that point. Is he charged with something? Does he lose his right to purchase firearms for awhile? Forever?
If it's nothing more than a little slap on the wrist, then Sam will keep on.
Selling across state lines normally requires at least one FFL (buyer’s end) and sometimes two (buyer & seller) depending on the states involved as the firearm may need to be transferred via FFL to FFL.
I don't know. Let's say Sam has purchased 50 guns over the past year and 2 have been discovered at crime scenes. I do not know what happens at that point. Is he charged with something? Does he lose his right to purchase firearms for awhile? Forever?
If it's nothing more than a little slap on the wrist, then Sam will keep on.
It is indeed an issue of poverty. You seem very vested in believing otherwise. Understandable.It tells us there’s an obvious issue with black culture. I can’t say what exactly the issues are but here’s some thoughts. I can say the issue is black culture because even if we adjust for poverty you still see crime rates that are unheard of for any other group in America.
Some of that is likely from a glorification of violence. Some of it is a left wing push to depolice black neighborhoods. Some of it is a lack of stable family structures that is a result of both the welfare state and the sexual revolution.
I can also tell you what it’s not. It’s not a result of poverty. It’s not the result of slavery. It’s not the result of red lining or systemic racism. None of those things makes you kill another person.
All good and appropriate, but is it true that only the sell of handguns must be reported?According to the ATF website, bulk purchasers must fill out forms allowing for those weapons to be tracked. Bulk-purchased guns used by prohibited persons or in crimes is evidence of trafficking.
What is the sentence for gun trafficking?
The count of conspiracy to engage in the business of unlicensed firearms dealing carries a maximum potential penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
The Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968 requires federal firearms licensees (FFLs) to send a report to ATF when there is a sale of multiple firearms to the same purchaser within a certain time period.All good and appropriate, but is it true that only the sell of handguns must be reported?
The same report says this:The Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968 requires federal firearms licensees (FFLs) to send a report to ATF when there is a sale of multiple firearms to the same purchaser within a certain time period.
It is indeed an issue of poverty. You seem very vested in believing otherwise. Understandable.
I think you would find an increased murder rate in every impoverished region in the world.
black, white, yellow, brown, blue, or green
I'm sure you saw the same in every European slum 200 years ago.
You would be better off taking the urban/rural angle - but you would still find poverty the leading indicator.