Reparations, income handouts, guaranteed jobs: Dems tilt hard left

[tumscalcium]

Actually, my displeasure with every politician is right in line with Holy Scripture. Same with deceptive practices.

Fyp

 

[AshG]

Fyp

And for once, I'll gladly accept it.

 

[tumscalcium]

And for once, I'll gladly accept it.

Ha. Indeed.

 

[volfanjustin]

Cory Booker introduces Senate bill on slavery reparations

full speed ahead for all these candidates to see who can be the most radical, at that person will eventually win the nomination

 

[tumscalcium]

full speed ahead for all these candidates to see who can be the most radical, at that person will eventually win the nomination

They’ll get even crazier.

 

[AirVol]

Cory Booker introduces Senate bill on slavery reparations

No one alive was a slave owner or slave. Screw reparations.

 

[1972 Grad]

No one alive was a slave owner or slave. Screw reparations.

Speak for yourself. I had a few back in the 50's......……………………………………………….



the 1850's.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Speak for yourself. I had a few back in the 50's......……………………………………………….



the 1850's.

I had some in the late 90's and early 00's. Then they grew up and moved away.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Exactly, Republicans can never again claim they are the party of fiscal restraint and they can no longer claim the moral high ground on any topic. They sold their souls supporting Trump.

Yeah we can. We are right and you are not. Simple.

 

[GAVol]

Every primary features that, to the left or the right.

Funny thing is, the GOP abandoned its principles and nominated then elected a guy who is the opposite of what the GOP has claimed over the last 25 years to stand for: family values, fiscal restraint, open government.

So then... Why has the Democratic Party dive bombed to the left so hard in reaction to a moderate? It seems like there's a sane middle ground somebody could claim. I don't get how the reaction to losing PA, OH, WI, MI is to double down on the politics of CA and NY.

 

[Mick]

So then... Why has the Democratic Party dive bombed to the left so hard in reaction to a moderate? It seems like there's a sane middle ground somebody could claim. I don't get how the reaction to losing PA, OH, WI, MI is to double down on the politics of CA and NY.

I see you got your talking points.

With Polls and Private Meetings, Republicans Craft Blunt Messaging to Paint Democrats as Extreme

Republican leaders are sharpening and poll-testing lines of attack that portray Democratic policies on health care, the environment and abortion as far outside the norm, in hopes of arming President Trump with hyperbolic sound bites — some of them false — asserting that Democrats would cause long waits for doctors or make killing babies after birth legal.

The blunt messaging underscores one of the biggest challenges facing Democrats as they try to defeat the incumbent president: the need to define themselves and their ideas before Mr. Trump and his conservative allies do it for them.

The Republican National Committee has already begun polling in 16 states to assess ways to discredit ideas like “Medicare for all,” which Senator Bernie Sanders proposed in a bill this week, and build on the party’s broader argument that Democratic candidates like Mr. Sanders are promoting an extreme socialist agenda. Social conservative leaders have met with White House officials to discuss calling attention to Democratic-sponsored legislation to loosen restrictions on abortion in the second and third trimesters, like one that passed recently in New York.

 

[GAVol]

I see you got your talking points.

With Polls and Private Meetings, Republicans Craft Blunt Messaging to Paint Democrats as Extreme

Republican leaders are sharpening and poll-testing lines of attack that portray Democratic policies on health care, the environment and abortion as far outside the norm, in hopes of arming President Trump with hyperbolic sound bites — some of them false — asserting that Democrats would cause long waits for doctors or make killing babies after birth legal.

The blunt messaging underscores one of the biggest challenges facing Democrats as they try to defeat the incumbent president: the need to define themselves and their ideas before Mr. Trump and his conservative allies do it for them.

The Republican National Committee has already begun polling in 16 states to assess ways to discredit ideas like “Medicare for all,” which Senator Bernie Sanders proposed in a bill this week, and build on the party’s broader argument that Democratic candidates like Mr. Sanders are promoting an extreme socialist agenda. Social conservative leaders have met with White House officials to discuss calling attention to Democratic-sponsored legislation to loosen restrictions on abortion in the second and third trimesters, like one that passed recently in New York.

What a lame response.

Try to paint me as a partisan all you want but I've got no idea what the talking points even are. I just know in the last couple of weeks I've seen things like candidates lined up to talk to Al Sharpton about reparations and I genuinely don't get it.

 

[Mick]

What a lame response.

Try to paint me as a partisan all you want but I've got no idea what the talking points even are. I just know in the last couple of weeks I've seen things like candidates lined up to talk to Al Sharpton about reparations and I genuinely don't get it.

I've not see or heard about it, but I have now. Reparations are far left. Sharpton is far left.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

They also already had a program where descendants of those slaves could go to GU for free.

Privilege? Let's see... their ancestors could have died in sub Saharan Africa whereby they never would have existed, (or if they had they would be eating beetles and grub worms for sustenance) or they could have come here under undeniably deplorable conditions and 'sacrificed' themselves for their future progeny albeit unwillingly. Sounds somewhat familiar but I just can't place my finger on it.

So tell me what the descendants have done to earn that free education. Breathe?

 

[Mick]

What a lame response.

Try to paint me as a partisan all you want but I've got no idea what the talking points even are. I just know in the last couple of weeks I've seen things like candidates lined up to talk to Al Sharpton about reparations and I genuinely don't get it.

If you look at this thread, it exemplifies the right trying to place an extreme position on anyone that is not hard right.

 

[tumscalcium]

So then... Why has the Democratic Party dive bombed to the left so hard in reaction to a moderate? It seems like there's a sane middle ground somebody could claim. I don't get how the reaction to losing PA, OH, WI, MI is to double down on the politics of CA and NY.

More of this.

 

[GAVol]

If you look at this thread, it exemplifies the right trying to place an extreme position on anyone that is not hard right.

That does tend to happen but what I'm trying to get somebody on the left to tell me is whether they're surprised at the collective position of the field.

 

[AirVol]

Give me the confederate statues back and I’ll give 40 swamp acres and a skiff with no motor.

 

[Mick]

That does tend to happen but what I'm trying to get somebody on the left to tell me is whether they're surprised at the collective position of the field.

I think you have it by reviewing the field and placing the posters on a "continuum" -@luthervol. It's definitely more the right and the right "moderates", as you call yourself, that try to assign an extreme position to others. There are many posters for a border wall and few if any for "Open Borders", but yet that is what's pushed by you "moderate righties".

 

[joevol33]

Here's a bunch of free stuff if you vote for us!

Exactly

 

[GAVol]

I think you have it by reviewing the field and placing the posters on a "continuum" -@luthervol. It's definitely more the right and the right "moderates", as you call yourself, that try to assign an extreme position to others. There are many posters for a border wall and few if any for "Open Borders", but yet that is what's pushed by you "moderate righties".

I don't think I've ever expressed that position or called myself a right moderate. I've got opinions that line up Republican and some that don't.

Could you stop trying to put me in a box and just answer the question? Is the field about where you expected or to the left? I promise there's no agenda other than to ask a question.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Exactly, Republicans can never again claim they are the party of fiscal restraint and they can no longer claim the moral high ground on any topic. They sold their souls supporting Trump.

We had souls to sell.

 

[ETV]

Speak for yourself. I had a few back in the 50's......……………………………………………….



the 1850's.

Why do you continually try to hide your age? Everyone here knows you were at Plymouth rock to greet whitey as they exited their boats.

 

[Mick]

I don't think I've ever expressed that position or called myself a right moderate. I've got opinions that line up Republican and some that don't.

Could you stop trying to put me in a box and just answer the question? Is the field about where you expected or to the left? I promise there's no agenda other than to ask a question.

I will apologize for putting you in a box. There are extreme positions on both sides but on reparations, yes it's right where I expect it, an overwhelming majority not fond of the idea.

 

[luthervol]

That does tend to happen but what I'm trying to get somebody on the left to tell me is whether they're surprised at the collective position of the field.

It's sort of like the right's reaction to Obama. Did they realize there was a desperate need for a moderate, someone who would appeal to the middle? Hell no, they went completely off the rails and picked the candidate they knew was most despised by the other side. The left is bitter, and angry, and sickened by the Trump fiasco. That doesn't draw people to the middle, it pushes them farther away. A more moderate democrat would be an easier win, but many would rather go as far left as possible while eking out a narrow win.

Personally, I will support the candidate I think most likely to beat Trump (if he is the republican nomination). I'm still holding out hope that the sane part of the right will wake the hell up.