Republican Nomination for President

Who would you vote for to run for President from the Republican Party?

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#251
#251
MG1968 said:
Does anybody here honestly think that any of the GOP candidates would have:

a) signed the stimulus bill? yes - Romney, Perry, Gingrich
b) signed the omnibus budget bill a few weeks later that contained over 3000 earmarks that Obama said weren't there? yes - Romney, Perry, Gingrich
c) signed Obamacare into law yes - Romney, Gingrich have both shown to favor major parts of the law
d) allowed the Attorney General to try KSM in a civilian court yes - Paul understands constitutional rights
e) nominated judicial activists like Kagan and Sotamayor to the SCOTUS no
f) install over 30 unaccountable czars yes - Romney, Perry, Gingrich
g) nominate nutjobs like Henry Chu (sp?) no
h) retained the idiotic Eric Holder after fiascos like Fast and Furious and the Gibson Guitar raid? kinda - wouldn't have nominated but after Ashcroft, et all, I don't think the GOP does any better

and the list goes on. The truth is that any of the current GOP field would be better than Obama, way better. They are indeed all flawed in some way (even Ron Paul) and there is something in their past and present that will keep single-issue zealots from voting for them.

Regardless of who the nominee is, I am going to vote for him or her. I can put aside my differences with any one of them in order to send Obama on to an early and much deserved retirement. Then you are part of the problem and when it doesn't work out, remember, it is because people like you don't have the courage to do whats right, just whats easy.
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my 2 cents
 
#253
#253
MG1968 said:
hey thanks for calling me an ignorant coward
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He's not calling you ignorant. You just don't have the courage to actually break away from so-called conventional wisdom and actually have us try something else or move in a different direction. You would rather give us another serving of GWB 2.0 and argue to us that this is the pragmatic choice.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He's not calling you ignorant. You just don't have the courage to actually break away from so-called conventional wisdom and actually have us try something else or move in a different direction. You would rather give us another serving of GWB 2.0 and argue to us that this is the pragmatic choice.
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Well said..

A prime example of that statement is congress. They have the lowest approval rating of any congress in history. Last poll I saw, they were at 12% approval.
Yet the majority of the same group will be reelected because although congress is doing a terrible job, people in general think their congress person/ senator is doing a good job and keeps voting for them...
 
#256
#256
MG1968 said:
hey thanks for calling me an ignorant coward
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I never called you ignorant, although we all are, me included. The trick is understanding the limits of what we do know.

MG1968 said:
Regardless of who the nominee is, I am going to vote for him or her.
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This is a statement made out of fear. This is running from Obama because you are scared of what he might do next. Out of fear, you are willing to accept something that you have to know is bad, simply because you are afraid that Obama will do worse. Why not try for something better? Take a chance, a risk. Don't go with the 'safe' bad alternative. Have the courage to do the right thing, or at least the closest you can find.
 
#257
#257
MG1968 said:
Regardless of who the nominee is, I am going to vote for him or her.
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You know, it's this EXACT kind of thinking that got him elected in the first place. I traditionally voted conservative until '08. I don't regret my vote, but I do regret why I voted.
 
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Gramps said:
Well said..

A prime example of that statement is congress. They have the lowest approval rating of any congress in history. Last poll I saw, they were at 12% approval.
Yet the majority of the same group will be reelected because although congress is doing a terrible job, people in general think their congress person/ senator is doing a good job and keeps voting for them...
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The best example is when you find these people that use the phrase "the lesser of two evils" as a justification for their voting habits. They would rather vote for less evil than take a chance on voting for the unknown that may actually be good. Or, they vote for the lesser of two evils because they really agree more with another candidate, but they are afraid that they are going to waste their vote on that guy because the mainstream doesn't like him.

People like that are either driven by fear (voting for the lesser of two evils is the pragmatic choice) or group think (wanting to fit in with the mainstream line of thinking).
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
My American History is up to snuff, thanks. I was saying you merely dismissed one of his points, and you didn't even elaborate on that one point.

Top Gun sucked, by the way.
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I can't think of anything to chalk this one up to other than some sort of traumatic volleyball accident from your youth.
 
#262
#262
DinkinFlicka said:
My American History is up to snuff, thanks. I was saying you merely dismissed one of his points, and you didn't even elaborate on that one point.

Top Gun sucked, by the way.
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You take that back!!!
just because you and OE can't play nice doesn't mean you should hate on a great movie like top gun.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I've never even seen Top Gun... other than just bits and pieces here and there.
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As a condition of your VN membership, I'm going to have to ask that you watch the movie immediately so you'll be up to date on 20 year old, stale pop culture references.
 
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#267
#267
DinkinFlicka said:
My American History is up to snuff, thanks. I was saying you merely dismissed one of his points, and you didn't even elaborate on that one point.

Top Gun sucked, by the way.
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What does top gun have to do with any thing, bizarre

Furthermore dismissed what?
 
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