Republican Nomination for President

Who would you vote for to run for President from the Republican Party?

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#177
#177
PKT_VOL said:
Is there anyone in the forum who actually gets excited about Romney? Not, well, "he is someone who will beat Obama" or "at least he is better than Obama." I mean honestly excited that he announced his candidacy, excited about his policies, etc. And more importantly, why?
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People getting excited is a terrible way to pick a President. See 2008.
 
#181
#181
GAVol said:
It doesn't matter. Every Presidential election is a referendum on the incumbent.
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In that case, most people are voting against Obama since he is the incumbent. The part that is of no matter is who the candidate is that is opposing him.

The fact that Romney can't seem to get over the 22-25% hump in any of these polls is enough for anyone to see that people are not jumping out of their couches to go vote for Romney. He's just a generic, vanilla candidate.
 
#182
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GAVol said:
It doesn't matter. Every Presidential election is a referendum on the incumbent.
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I would point to 2004. It should have been a referendum on Bush the Younger, and a candidate as bad as Kerry still nearly made it to 1700. It is both a referendum on the incumbent and who the opposition can muster. As bad as Obama has been, I still can't see people rushing out of their houses to replace him with Romney.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The fact that Romney can't seem to get over the 22-25% hump in any of these polls is enough for anyone to see that people are not jumping out of their couches to go vote for Romney. He's just a generic, vanilla candidate.
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You're right about that to some extent, but that just may be the strategy that works. There's nothing that says the winner has to have charisma.
 
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milohimself said:
I would point to 2004. It should have been a referendum on Bush the Younger, and a candidate as bad as Kerry still nearly made it to 1700. It is both a referendum on the incumbent and who the opposition can muster. As bad as Obama has been, I still can't see people rushing out of their houses to replace him with Romney.
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I think you underestimate how po'd people are with the economy.
 
#186
#186
GAVol said:
I think you underestimate how po'd people are with the economy.
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I think you are underestimating how po'd people are at both sides for getting us in this situation. It's oxymoronic, but what I am seeing is energized apathy in most people. They are equally frustrated with both of these parties and don't feel that the majority of the guys on the GOP side will not do much to deviate from the status quo.
 
#187
#187
milohimself said:
There still needs to be some reciprocation with momentum behind the GOP candidate.

I think an Obama v. Romney race would garner more apathy than anything else.
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Stole my thunder... but that is exactly what that ticket will do. Hell, you will probably even have some ticked off Obama voters sitting home for that one.
 
#188
#188
milohimself said:
There still needs to be some reciprocation with momentum behind the GOP candidate.

I think an Obama v. Romney race would garner more apathy than anything else.
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Romney is not my first choice either, but I think he's getting mischaracterized a little. He's been running for President since basically 2006. Name ID is not a problem for him. Boring is OK right now.
 
#189
#189
Rasputin_Vol said:
Stole my thunder... but that is exactly what that ticket will do. Hell, you will probably even have some ticked off Obama voters sitting home for that one.
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I voted for Obama in 08 and will likely sit home (or leave the presidential part of my ballot unmarked... We vote via mail in Oregon) if that's the option. There's effectively little difference between the two, so I've found myself much more read on local politics.
 
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#190
GAVol said:
Romney is not my first choice either, but I think he's getting mischaracterized a little. He's been running for President since basically 2006. Name ID is not a problem for him. Boring is OK right now.
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Boring is okay right now because he can let the other potentials flame out in front of him, but I'm not convinced it will be enough come voting time.
 
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#191
milohimself said:
There's effectively little difference between the two
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I keep reading this and wonder if anybody posting it has noticed what the heck has been happening for the past 3 years. Obama is hands down the most liberal President of my lifetime. He inherited a grease fire economy and poured lighter fluid on it. Even the most liberal Republican is way right of him.
 
#192
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GAVol said:
I keep reading this and wonder if anybody posting it has noticed what the heck has been happening for the past 3 years. Obama is hands down the most liberal President of my lifetime. He inherited a grease fire economy and poured lighter fluid on it. Even the most liberal Republican is way right of him.
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This probably won't be well understood since most people on this board are southern and conservative, but for every person I've heard call him one of the most liberal presidents ever, I've heard another say he's no different than Bush and has been hardly liberal whatsoever in a lot of key issues. It's truly all over the map.
 
#193
#193
GAVol said:
I keep reading this and wonder if anybody posting it has noticed what the heck has been happening for the past 3 years. Obama is hands down the most liberal President of my lifetime. He inherited a grease fire economy and poured lighter fluid on it. Even the most liberal Republican is way right of him.
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For me it's a systemic thing in that I don't believe anybody can become President or Senator or even Representative anymore without displaying that they can be bought and sold as easily as any other politician.
 
#194
#194
GAVol said:
I keep reading this and wonder if anybody posting it has noticed what the heck has been happening for the past 3 years. Obama is hands down the most liberal President of my lifetime. Even the most liberal Republican is way right of him.
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I made a thread a few weeks ago asking how different would things be right now if McCain would have won. Outside of Obamacare, I really don't think that we would be out of the recession. I'm not certain that McCain would have kept us out of Libya/Egypt/Country X. I'm just not certain much else would have been accomplished had Obama lost. And honestly, there are people on both sides of the aisle that feel the same way. Obama supporters have buyers remorse. You have some Bush voters with buyers remorse. Now you have the potential of either more Obama vs Mitt Romney/Newt/Santorum/Jeb Bush... whoever.

You may not be feeling apathetic, but the sentiment is real and widespread out here.

True story, my dad and I were talking before Thanksgiving about the GOP debates. First off, I was stunned that he was even watching the GOP debates. Then he proceeds to tell me that he liked some of the things about Huntsman and Ron Paul.

Things are bad when you have old black men that voted for Obama turning towards Paul and Huntsman.
 
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#195
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milohimself said:
For me it's a systemic thing in that I don't believe anybody can become President or Senator or even Representative anymore without displaying that they can be bought and sold as easily as any other politician.
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Presidential politics is what it is. There is no Mr Smith goes to Washington. It takes a coalition, having the right friends and plenty of money.
 
#197
#197
Rasputin_Vol said:
Things are bad when you have old black men that voted for Obama turning towards Paul and Huntsman.
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It's more about what they say. I certainly like some of Paul's ideas though I wouldn't vote for him, and I would vote for Huntsman, and I'm a registered Dem. But he doesn't have the cashola to make the ticket.
 
#198
#198
Rasputin_Vol said:
I made a thread a few weeks ago asking how different would things be right now if McCain would have won. Outside of Obamacare, I really don't think that we would be out of the recession. I'm not certain that McCain would have kept us out of Libya/Egypt/Country X. I'm just not certain much else would have been accomplished had Obama lost. And honestly, there are people on both sides of the aisle that feel the same way. Obama supporters have buyers remorse. You have some Bush voters with buyers remorse. Now you have the potential of either more Obama or Mitt Romney/Newt/Santorum/Jeb Bush... whoever.

You may not be feeling apathetic, but the sentiment is real and widespread out here.

True story, my dad and I were talking before Thanksgiving about the GOP debates. First off, I was stunned that he was even watching the GOP debates. Then he proceeds to tell me that he liked some of the things about Huntsman and Ron Paul.

Things are bad when you have old black men that voted for Obama turning towards Paul and Huntsman.
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I guess I'm just more apt to chalk it up to being a sign of the times than being about any candidate. At this point in the election cycle, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton weren't really inspiring anybody either.
 
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GAVol said:
Presidential politics is what it is. There is no Mr Smith goes to Washington. It takes a coalition, having the right friends and plenty of money.
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That is what people are tired and frustrated about. These same group of insiders seem to run the same kinds of candidates to us year after year.

Even you have to be tired of the blandness and lack of new ideas being generated.
 
#200
#200
milohimself said:
... Which is going to give us the same results time after time.
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Not necessarily. The money will move if a strong candidate comes along rather than get left behind.. Reagan, Clinton and even Obama were definitely NOT the insider's first choice.
 
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