Resume comparison

#26
#26
Also guys when you respond if you could not quote the op that would be awesome. Crazy annoying on mobile to scroll that much.
 
#27
#27
Really appreciate the work on this, bTNo. Sure clears up where the guys stand versus the field.

Win the next two and hopefully two in the tourney and remove all doubt. May get in with less, but it will be questionable.
 
#29
#29
Someone get out the "So you're saying there's a chance?" Pic
 
#30
#30
Vols4us said:
Really appreciate the work on this, bTNo. Sure clears up where the guys stand versus the field.

Win the next two and hopefully two in the tourney and remove all doubt. May get in with less, but it will be questionable.
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No problem! :hi:

As far as how many off this list get in, as others are saying it depends on if/how many bids get stolen by conference tournaments. I'd say 4 is probably a safe number off this list get in.
 
#31
#31
BTO?? Do we have to win next 4 in your opinion. I know some of these conf tourney's are going to get messed up, but I'm thinking if we win next 3 we're in???
 
#32
#32
Updated Virginia resume


VIRGINIA

RPI: 64
SOS: 112
OOC: 299
Conf. SOS: 73
Good Wins: #1 Duke, #21 North Carolina, #26 Wisconsin, #27 N.C. State
Bad Losses: #127 Deleware, #129 Georgia Tech, #156 George Mason, #165 Clemson, #168 Wake Forest, #315 Old Dominion, #131 Boston College
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 4-2
W/L 51-100: 3-0
W/L 101-200: 7-6
W/L 200+: 6-1
 
#35
#35
bleedingTNorange said:
With all talk of a NCAA tournament bid, and what Tennessee will need to do, I thought it would be helpful to have handy a resume comparison. I will try to keep this as updated as possible, and for this to be as helpful as possible I will surely miss some teams or updates, so please feel free to help.

Zjc if we could get this stickied that'd be great, thanks.



TENNESSEE

RPI: 56
SOS: 36
OOC SOS: 36
Conf. SOS: 75
Good Wins: #6 Florida, #40 Wichita State
Bad Losses: #128 Georgia x 2
Last 10: 7-3
W/L 1-50: 2-3
W/L 51-100: 6-6
W/L 101-200: 3-2
W/L 201+: 6-0





OTHER BUBBLE TEAMS



VIRGINIA

RPI: 64
SOS: 112
OOC: 299
Conf. SOS: 73
Good Wins: #1 Duke, #21 North Carolina, #26 Wisconsin, #27 N.C. State
Bad Losses: #127 Deleware, #129 Georgia Tech, #156 George Mason, #165 Clemson, #168 Wake Forest, #315 Old Dominion, #131 Boston College
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 4-2
W/L 51-100: 3-0
W/L 101-200: 7-6
W/L 200+: 6-1


IOWA STATE

RPI: 53
SOS: 62
OOC SOS: 173
Conf. SOS: 68
Good Wins: #18 Kansas State, #22 Oklahoma
Bad Losses: #126 Texas, #224 Texas Tech
Last 10: 5-5
W/L 1-50: 2-7
W/L 51-100: 3-1
W/L 101-200: 5-1
W/L 200+: 9-1


TEMPLE

RPI: 41
SOS: 47
OOC: 58
Conf. SOS: 89
Good Wins: #1 Duke, #4 Kansas, #29 Butler
Bad Losses: #106 St. Bonaventure, #110 Canisius, #216 Duquesne
Last 10: 8-2
W/L 1-50: 3-3
W/L 51-100: 6-2
W/L 101-200: 7-2
W/L 200+: 5-1


KENTUCKY

RPI: 51
SOS: 58
OOC SOS: 57
Conf. SOS: 110
Good Wins: #34 Missouri
Bad Losses: none
Last 10: 7-3 *3-2 without Noel*
W/L 1-50: 1-4
W/L 51-100: 5-5
W/L 101-200: 5-0
W/L 200+: 9-0


VILLANOVA

RPI: 55
SOS: 37
OOC: 136
Conf. SOS: 43
Good Wins: #5 Louisville, #11 Marquette, #16 Syracuse, #39 Connecticut
Bad Losses: #116 Seton Hall, #266 Columbia
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 4-6
W/L 51-100: 2-3
W/L 101-200: 7-1
W/L 200+: 4-1


BOISE STATE

RPI: 43
SOS: 64
OOC SOS: 202
Conf. SOS: 54
Good Wins: #14 UNLV, #17 Colorado State, #36 Creighton
Bad Losses: #167 Nevada, #182 Utah
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 3-5
W/L 51-100: 4-1
W/L 101-200: 7-2
W/L 200+: 4-0


MISSISSIPPI

RPI: 60
SOS: 132
OOC SOS: 276
Conf. SOS: 119
Good Wins: #34 Missouri
Bad Losses: #203 South Carolina, #226 Mississippi State
Last 10: 4-6
W/L: 1-50: 1-3
W/L: 51-100: 4-3
W/L: 101-200: 5-0
W/L: 200+: 11-2


BAYLOR

RPI: 63
SOS: 29
OOC SOS: 40
Conf. SOS: 62
Good Wins: #25 Oklahoma State
Bad Losses: #141 Northwestern, #150 College of Charleston
Last 10: 3-7
W/L 1-50: 1-8
W/L 51-100: 3-2
W/L 101-200: 5-2
W/L 200+: 7-0


SOUTHERN MISS

RPI: 36
SOS: 92
OOC SOS: 105
Conf. SOS: 127
Good Wins: none
Bad Losses: #111 UCF
Last 10: 7-3
W/L 1-50: 0-5
W/L 51-100: 3-1
W/L 101-200: 10-1
W/L 200+: 7-0


MARYLAND

RPI: 70
SOS: 113
OOC SOS: 307
Conf. SOS: 65
Good Wins: #1 Duke, #27 N.C. State
Bad Losses: #129 Georgia Tech, #144 Boston College
Last 10: 5-5
W/L 1-50: 2-3
W/L 51-100: 1-4
W/L 101-200: 11-2
W/L 200+: 6-0


INDIANA STATE

RPI: 79
SOS: 59
OOC SOS: 27
Conf. SOS: 112
Good Wins: #3 Miami, #36 Creighton, #40 Wichita State
Bad Losses: #101 Evansville, #123 Illinois State, #151 Drake x 2, #174 Morehead State, #178 Southern Illinois, #179 Bradley, #211 Missouri State
Last 10: 4-6
W/L 1-50: 3-5
W/L 51-100: 3-0
W/L 101-200: 5-7
W/L 200+: 5-1


ALABAMA

RPI: 61
SOS: 87
OOC SOS: 122
Conf. SOS: 76
Good Wins: none
Bad Losses: #104 Dayton, #131 Mercer, #175 Tulane, #228 Auburn
Last 10: 7-3
W/L 1-50: 0-4
W/L 51-100: 7-2
W/L 101-200: 5-3
W/L 200+: 6-1


ST. JOHN'S

RPI: 69
SOS: 39
OOC SOS: 156
Conf. SOS: 35
Good Wins: #39 Connecticut, #46 Notre Dame, #50 Cincinnati
Bad Losses: #108 Rutgers, #130 Murray State, #155 San Francisco, #204 UNC-Asheville
Last 10: 5-5
W/L 1-50: 3-5
W/L 51-100: 1-3
W/L 101-200: 7-3
W/L 200+: 5-1


UMASS

RPI: 54
SOS: 69
OOC SOS: 75
Conf. SOS: 103
Good Wins: #45 La Salle
Bad Losses: #106 St. Bonaventrue, #145 George Washington
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 1-5
W/L 51-100: 7-2
W/L 101-200: 4-2
W/L 200+: 6-0


IOWA

RPI: 87
SOS: 100
OOC SOS: 314
Conf. SOS: 36
Good Wins: #15 Minnesota, #26 Wisconsin
Bad Losses: #104 Nebraska, #136 Purdue, #165 Virginia Tech
Last 10: 5-5
W/L 1-50: 2-8
W/L 51-100: 2-0
W/L 101-200: 7-3
W/L 200+: 7-0


ARIZONA STATE

RPI: 94
SOS: 120
OOC SOS: 299
Conf. SOS: 82
Good Wins: #27 Colorado x 2, #31 UCLA, #42 California
Bad Losses: #182 Utah, #193 Depaul
Last 10: 4-6
W/L 1-50: 4-4
W/L 51-100: 2-4
W/L 101-200: 5-2
W/L 200+: 9-0


ARKANSAS

RPI: 78
SOS: 81
OOC SOS: 121
Conf. SOS: 96
Good Wins: #6 Florida, #22 Oklahoma, #34 Missouri
Bad Losses: #132 Vanderbilt, #203 South Carolina
Last 10: 6-4
W/L 1-50: 3-4
W/L 51-100: 3-5
W/L 101-200: 3-1
W/L 200+: 9-1
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Funny that you put KY's bad losses as none, even though they lost to an unranked Tenn team by like 35
 
#40
#40
BTO, I know you probably don't have time for this tonight, but when you get a chance, help me understand something. I know winning is ultimately what it's all about, but it seems to me the RPI doesn't count SOS enough when compiling their ratings.

Picking an example - us & So Miss. Our SOS & OOC SOS are 36 & 36. So Miss' are 92 & 105. Looking at wins over teams with RPI's > 100 & 200, we have 9 of our wins from these two categories. They have 17. Our RPI is 56 & theirs is 36. Doesn't this go against what the committee has done in the past in penalizing teams that schedule easier? Their RPI is higher (lower) because their wins are higher because their schedule is easier.

Was it Alabama of the SEC schools that was left out a few years ago because of their schedule & the committee let them know they needed to toughen it up? Most of those teams you compared us to have easier schedules. Especially OOC ones. Way easier, but their RPI is pretty close to ours or better. This drives me crazy. It seems the easier schedules trump the tougher ones if it's that much about wins & losses only.
 
#42
#42
VolWoman said:
BTO, I know you probably don't have time for this tonight, but when you get a chance, help me understand something. I know winning is ultimately what it's all about, but it seems to me the RPI doesn't count SOS enough when compiling their ratings.

Picking an example - us & So Miss. Our SOS & OOC SOS are 36 & 36. So Miss' are 92 & 105. Looking at wins over teams with RPI's > 100 & 200, we have 9 of our wins from these two categories. They have 17. Our RPI is 56 & theirs is 36. Doesn't this go against what the committee has done in the past in penalizing teams that schedule easier? Their RPI is higher (lower) because their wins are higher because their schedule is easier.

Was it Alabama of the SEC schools that was left out a few years ago because of their schedule & the committee let them know they needed to toughen it up? Most of those teams you compared us to have easier schedules. Especially OOC ones. Way easier, but their RPI is pretty close to ours or better. This drives me crazy. It seems the easier schedules trump the tougher ones if it's that much about wins & losses only.
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That's one of the flaws with RPI, you can have a great RPI, but rest of your resume not really match up. Look at Memphis, their wins are almost all against 100+ teams, but their RPI is pretty high because of the amount of wins they have as a result of playing in a cake conference.

The committee looks at that though, it's why southern miss is a bubble team, and not solidly in. The committee looks at SOS, who you've played OOC and factors all those things in, it isn't solely RPI. Missouri State had a RPI around 39 a few years back and was left out, it happens.

That's one of the things Tennessee really has in thee favor if they can finish strong, their SOS was very good, much better than most bubble teams.
 
#43
#43
Updated Nova resume

VILLANOVA

RPI: 55
SOS: 37
OOC: 136
Conf. SOS: 43
Good Wins: #5 Louisville, #11 Marquette, #16 Syracuse, #39 Connecticut
Bad Losses: #116 Seton Hall, #266 Columbia
Last 10: 5-5
W/L 1-50: 4-7
W/L 51-100: 2-3
W/L 101-200: 7-1
W/L 200+: 4-1
 
#44
#44
So the committee has a lot of leeway (but still not accountable to anyone)? I've been driving myself crazy for over a week on Live RPI looking at teams that are on everyone's bracket that have very easy schedules & wondering why we couldn't even make a first four out list, at that time. Memphis is a great example, not that I'd leave them off either. I just don't like the RPI but I guess it's all we have as of now. Even the BCS gives credit for SOS. Missouri was one that bugged me, but I can't remember why now.

Thank you & you too, Bobcat.
 
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#47
#47
VolWoman said:
So the committee has a lot of leeway (but still not accountable to anyone)? I've been driving myself crazy for over a week on Live RPI looking at teams that are on everyone's bracket that have very easy schedules & wondering why we couldn't even make a first four out list, at that time. Memphis is a great example, not that I'd leave them off either. I just don't like the RPI but I guess it's all we have as of now. Even the BCS gives credit for SOS. Missouri was one that bugged me, but I can't remember why now.

Thanks you & you too, Bobcat.
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Yea the RPI is far from the only thing the committee uses, however it's an accurate measuring stick usually. If you're in a power conference and have a RPI better than 50 there's not but 1 or 2 teams who've been left out. On the flip side, if your RPI is worse than about 60 your chances of getting in are pretty slim.
 
#48
#48
Yeah, I won't feel secure unless we win 2 in Nashville. I remember last year, I knew we weren't getting in, but when that last team was on the bracket, it was still an awful letdown.

You think 1 Bobcat? I guess we could depending on other tournaments, etc, but I'd be sweating it. Let's just keep winning. Or start all over rather.
 
#49
#49
Talk to you guys later. Thanks for the help & all the work you did BTO. I'm going to be puking nervous Wed.
 
#50
#50
From Lunardi:

A fairly uncomplicated bubble picture was completely blown apart on Saturday, especially in the SEC. Pay close attention to the following sentence and you'll have a better understanding of why Tennessee sits in the final at-large spot: Not all conference schedules are created equal, and the Vols (No. 69) are a good bit ahead of league brethren Alabama (No. 123), Kentucky (No. 103), Ole Miss (No. 121) and Arkansas (No. 93) in that category.
 
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