Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

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clarksvol00 said:
Didn't you post this the other day? Didn't you fail to respond when I pointed out that the link to "Malcolm X Day" lists only one city that celebrates it? Can you let me know where I can find a Malcolm X Elementary School?
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Why do you qualify your retort by asking to name an elementary school named after Malcom Shabaaz?

Malcom Shabazz City High School
Educate students in grades 9-12.



Malcolm Shabazz City High School is a four-year public alternative high school in Madison, Wisconsin. The school was named in honor of activist Malcolm X, also known as Malcolm Shabazz. It was founded as Malcolm Shabazz High School in 1971, changing its name after merging with City High School in 1979. Wikipedia


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Franklin Pierce said:
Why do you qualify your retort by asking to name an elementary school named after Malcom Shabaaz?

Malcom Shabazz City High School
Educate students in grades 9-12.



Malcolm Shabazz City High School is a four-year public alternative high school in Madison, Wisconsin. The school was named in honor of activist Malcolm X, also known as Malcolm Shabazz. It was founded as Malcolm Shabazz High School in 1971, changing its name after merging with City High School in 1979. Wikipedia


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The elementary school thing was kind of meant to be in jest. You've found one school and a street. 1972 Grad has found four or five schools. I found three streets. Are there hundreds more? What are the cities other than Berkely (and some kind of Illinois Senate resolution) that observe Malcolm X Day?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The elementary school thing was kind of meant to be in jest. You've found one school and a street. 1972 Grad has found four or five schools. I found three streets. Are there hundreds more? What are the cities other than Berkely (and some kind of Illinois Senate resolution) that observe Malcolm X Day?
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If I'm missing something that's fine, I just think facts are important.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The elementary school thing was kind of meant to be in jest. You've found one school and a street. 1972 Grad has found four or five schools. I found three streets. Are there hundreds more? What are the cities other than Berkely (and some kind of Illinois Senate resolution) that observe Malcolm X Day?
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So, you are saying that having a high school where children are students, and streets named after Malcom X, who preached violence and race hatred, should be treated differently because be is black?

You have already Exempted Martin King from being evaluated on the basis of his morality, and should keep all of his statues and honors, so you might as well throw in old Malcom X with Martin.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
So, you are saying that having a high school where children are students, and streets named after Malcom X, who preached violence and race hatred, should be treated differently because be is black?
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I found the guy to be entertaining. He spoke his mind, and didn't care what anyone thought.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Then answer the question, yes or no, should Martin King or Malcom X have their names removed from all statues, schools, and other modes of honor?
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Answer the question, yes or no. Are there more "Malcolm X Days" than the one observed by the city of Berkely and an Illinois Senate resolution? Are there hundreds of Malcolm X schools and roads?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Answer the question, yes or no. Are there more "Malcolm X Days" than the one observed by the city of Berkely and an Illinois Senate resolution? Are there hundreds of Malcolm X schools and roads?
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So you answered the question. You believe King and X should keep their statues, and names on all schools and streets.

It just shows how full of sh!t you are, and what a Hypocrite you are. You no longer have any credibility.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
So you answered the question. You believe King and X should keep their statues, and names on all schools and streets.

It just shows how full of sh!t you are, and what a Hypocrite you are. You no longer have any credibility.
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Okay. Due to my lack of credibility, I'll just start cutting and pasting things from the internet without checking their veracity and that will make me credible just like you.
 
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37L1 said:
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Is that the poop emoji statue?

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Delmar said:
No question MLK had his share of selective morality. That is well known. But visiting hookers and on tape saying vile things about women. My my, who else do we know like that? And yet, many of you can’t get enough of his special brand of lunacy and are very willing to overlook his gutter rat morals and ethics. Hypocrisy anyone?
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Which President you taking about here? I mean give us an initial or something. Just remember hypocrisy comes in cycles and you literally just described to a T a number of Democrat Presidents.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
I see this as a total non-issue and a pointless distraction from important subjects. However, I will be interested in seeing the reaction when people take aim at monuments to yankee heroes with troublesome records on race.
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Agreed. Symbolic at best.
An interesting exercise is to search for building and monuments which were built by enslaved people in this country and worldwide as well.
Where does the anarchy stop.
 
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MontyPython said:
The statue of Robert E. Lee has towered over Richmond for more than 100 years. In recent days, though, it's been conveying a different message - words like "Black lives matter" are covering its stone pedestal.

At least a hundred people gathered on a muggy Thursday afternoon near the monument to the Confederate commander after Gov. Ralph Northam announced it was to come down "as soon as possible."

Richmond isn't alone. Around the U.S, demonstrations over the death of Floyd and racial inequality have sparked both protesters and city officials to remove, deface or announce plans to take down many Confederate memorials.

While the decision in Richmond signals a positive step for those who want to see the monuments removed, experts warn that the push to take them down and address what sparked them to be erected still has a long way to go.

Among the locations where mayors, protesters and even groups dedicated to Confederate history have taken down statues or announced plans:

  • In Montgomery, Alabama, on Monday, another statue of Lee was toppled in front of its namesake high school. Cheers went up among a small crowd gathered to watch the fallen general as cars circled the area and honked.
  • In Birmingham, Alabama, Mayor Randall Woodfin ordered workers to take down a 50-foot-tall Confederate obelisk on Monday night after a group of protesters failed to knock it down. The night before, the group dismantled the brass cast of Charles Linn, a captain in the Confederate Navy, from its base.
  • The city of Mobile, Alabama, removed a bronze figure of Admiral Raphael Semmes early Friday, without making any public announcement. Semmes was a Confederate commerce raider, sinking Union-allied ships during the Civil War, and the statue had become a flashpoint in the city.
  • Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett announced Thursday that a monument dedicated to Confederate soldiers who died at a Union prison camp in the city will be removed from a park.
  • A statue outside the Tennessee State Capitol of Edward Carmack, a controversial former lawmaker and newspaper publisher who espoused racist views, was torn down Saturday.
  • The United Daughters of the Confederacy removed a statue of a soldier gazing south in Alexandria, Virginia, on Tuesday.
  • The Arkansas division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy also announced that a Confederate soldier monument in Bentonville will be removed from the downtown square and relocated to a private park.
Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

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It's about time.
 
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VolStrom said:
Erase history, that'll fix everything.
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Who said that? Straw man.

It sure would be nice though if people weren't reminded of former slaveowners lording over communal areas in THEIR city. Imagine being someone living in a city where your ancestors had been slaves and there is a statue to someone that owned your relatives. NO THANKS.
 
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hog88 said:
LOL

Never took a history class.
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That... is true at UT, at least.

SMH

Not sure I'm following the anti-Lincoln positions here, but to each their own. Probably because they're based on fancy over reason. No worries. I'll stick with my position - based on widely-accepted written history - that Lincoln was staunchly opposed to slavery.
 
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