Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

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bamawriter said:
Where was he when he commissioned the Indian Removal Act?
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After fighting them tooth and nail for many years and losing many soldiers at their hands, he was probably ready to make them scarce. In those days, we were more like the animal kingdom. The strong survived.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s a historical statue that has stood for a long time and that’s the point. It seems that some people just want to forget history and what happened and who was involved in those events. It takes a small minded weak person to let a simple statue cause grief.
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So you don't care if they take it down?
 
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NashVol11 said:
I'm more than fine with them putting up a statue of an abolitionist instead, in order to "remember who was involved with those events." I suspect you prefer the Confederate soldier, for some reason.
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I dont care what statue is put up. But could this fragile society handle it? Probably not.
 
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1972 Grad said:
After fighting them tooth and nail for many years and losing many soldiers at their hands, he was probably ready to make them scarce. In those days, we were more like the animal kingdom. The strong survived.
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So, he got sick of fighting wars to take their lands, so he decided genocide was more efficient. In that context, Jackson seems like a swell guy.
 
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toeflood said:
I believe in the constitution. I believe in those men that wrote it. I also believe we have somehow veered off the path that was set before us. We are a divided nation. Blue vs Red, Black vs White, Wealthy vs Poor.
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The post I replied to said "the government" divides people, as if it's a design flaw.
 
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VolStrom said:
So? My family fought on the side of Union soldiers and I was born in the south, what does that make me?
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Good question, My ggreat grandfather, on one side, fought for the north and died in a Confederate prison in Nashville in 1865 1 month before the war was over (He was 1 of 359). Another ggrandfather died at Chicamauga and he wore gray. Some of my family were Cherokee and were marched to Arkansas. I don't want any of it erased by leftist social justice bugmen, short in testosterone, and long on stupid.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Nothing says strong man quite like racial genocide!
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Different times, pal. Slavery was legal. Doesn't make it right. It makes it a different era. You can't judge by today's standards. It had been dog eat dog, the strong survive for many, many years before that time. Hell, you guys kill babies by the hundreds of thousands every year, and some day that may be looked upon the same way that you look at Jackson today.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Different times, pal. Slavery was legal. Doesn't make it right. It makes it a different era. You can't judge by today's standards. It had been dog eat dog, the strong survive for many, many years before that time. Hell, you guys kill babies by the hundreds of thousands every year, and some day that may be looked upon the same way that you look at Jackson today.
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Lol I LOVE how you just assumed I'm pro-abortion because I'm anti-genocide hahaha
 
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bamawriter said:
So, he got sick of fighting wars to take their lands, so he decided genocide was more efficient. In that context, Jackson seems like a swell guy.
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After the Indians massacred about 500 men, women and children around the present day Mobile, Alabama, the government knew who they wound send to revenge the killings and protect the remaining settlers in the area, and it was Andrew Jackson.

Jackson and his troops hunted down the Indians in the Alabama wilderness and killed more than 800 of the savages. Fewer than 50 of Jackson's men were killed.

After the battle, Jackson's troops made bridle reins from skin taken from Indian corpses, conducted a body count by cutting off the tips of their noses, and sent their clothing as souvenirs to the "ladies of Tennessee."

That was a different time. Different rules applied.

Would you like to know what General Jackson did to the Indians and Spanish in Florida?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
After the Indians massacred about 500 men, women and children around the present day Mobile, Alabama, the government knew who they wound send to revenge the killings and protect the remaining settlers in the area, and it was Andrew Jackson.

Jackson and his troops hunted down the Indians in the Alabama wilderness and killed more than 800 of the savages. Fewer than 50 of Jackson's men were killed.

After the battle, Jackson's troops made bridle reins from skin taken from Indian corpses, conducted a body count by cutting off the tips of their noses, and sent their clothing as souvenirs to the "ladies of Tennessee."

That was a different time. Different rules applied.

Would you like to know what General Jackson did to the Indians and Spanish in Florida?
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Truly amazing the effort you’ll put into defending homicidal Jackson yet you’ll run Mattis into the ground for going against Trump.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
After the Indians massacred about 500 men, women and children around the present day Mobile, Alabama, the government knew who they wound send to revenge the killings and protect the remaining settlers in the area, and it was Andrew Jackson.

Jackson and his troops hunted down the Indians in the Alabama wilderness and killed more than 800 of the savages. Fewer than 50 of Jackson's men were killed.

After the battle, Jackson's troops made bridle reins from skin taken from Indian corpses, conducted a body count by cutting off the tips of their noses, and sent their clothing as souvenirs to the "ladies of Tennessee."

That was a different time. Different rules applied.

Would you like to know what General Jackson did to the Indians and Spanish in Florida?
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This is the weirdest defense of Jackson imaginable.
 
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I don't care enough about some statues to get into it, but some of y'all just have a really messed up way of viewing history. Viewing history as binary events to be either justified or condemned is just... A silly exercise. A 10 year old can look back on history and tell you what is right and wrong. Is that what you think the purpose of a historical record is? Like a scoreboard?
 
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