Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

[Rickyvol77]

They do an amazing job of brainwashing ignorant morons.

Yea we can’t have people being “brainwashed” by statues of Washington, Jefferson etc

 

[Rickyvol77]

Well there you have it. As long as you are a great tactician and say sorry at the end of your life you can do any despicable thing you want!

Some irony here

 

[Rickyvol77]

He’s a POS. Don’t care how great of a tactician he is. Nice he tried to make up for being a POS at the end of his life. Net negative in this world. It would have been better off without him.

I agree. Just like George Floyd right?

 

[volfanhill]

I agree. Just like George Floyd right?

I haven’t come across a statue of him yet.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I haven’t come across a statue of him yet.

And you won’t. I’m ok with them taking down the Forrest statue because he was an a-hole too and it was put up by Democrats wanting to celebrate him. My point was you could say the “net negative” comment about tons of people but how many protestors would say that about Floyd or Brooks or any violent criminal

 

[volfanhill]

And you won’t. I’m ok with them taking down the Forrest statue because he was an a-hole too and it was put up by Democrats wanting to celebrate him. My point was you could say the “net negative” comment about tons of people but how many protestors would say that about Floyd or Brooks or any violent criminal

That’s not the issue though. Floyd was killed by police. Essentially murder by government. It should piss us all off.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Columbus State Community College: Columbus Statue ‘Not Consistent’ with Our Values

Columbus State Community College announced this week that they will remove a statue of Christopher Columbus from campus grounds. One college official said in a statement that the statue was “not consistent” with the community college’s values.

According to a report by Campus Reform, Columbus State Community College in Columbus, Ohio, has announced that it will remove a statue of Christopher Columbus from campus over concern that its presence goes against the college’s values.

Columbus State Community College: Columbus Statue 'Not Consistent' with Our Values

 

[k-town_king]

Great! bring down all the crappy colonizers, imperialists, and racists.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Vandals Deface Statue of Brigham Young – at Brigham Young University

Vandals defaced a statue of Brigham Young at Brigham Young University over the weekend. The vandals dumped red paint on the state and painted the word “racist” on the base of the statue in large red letters.

According to a report by Campus Reform, a statue of Brigham Young on BYU’s campus was vandalized over the weekend. Campus police officers discovered that the statue had been covered in red paint on Monday morning.

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Vandals Deface Statue of Brigham Young - at Brigham Young University​

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[Rickyvol77]

Great! bring down all the crappy colonizers, imperialists, and racists.

Shaka Zulu, Mohammed, Cleopatra. Sitting Bull. All should be thrown out!

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Columbus State Community College: Columbus Statue ‘Not Consistent’ with Our Values

Columbus State Community College announced this week that they will remove a statue of Christopher Columbus from campus grounds. One college official said in a statement that the statue was “not consistent” with the community college’s values.

According to a report by Campus Reform, Columbus State Community College in Columbus, Ohio, has announced that it will remove a statue of Christopher Columbus from campus over concern that its presence goes against the college’s values.

Columbus State Community College: Columbus Statue 'Not Consistent' with Our Values

So their values are based on a hatred of Italians?

 

[CagleMtnVol]

That racist Lincoln!

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

That racist Lincoln!

"Unavailing"

 

[Weezer]

That racist Lincoln!

Lincoln actually was a racist. He's on record saying blacks were an inferior race. The Emancipation Proclamation got him a lot of love, but he didn't believe blacks were equal. He was more focused on preserving the Union than he was ending slavery.

 

[AirVol]

When does Yale change their college name?

 

[utvolpj]

So their values are based on a hatred of Italians?

Columbus was pretty much a POS

 

[LouderVol]

That’s not the issue though. Floyd was killed by police. Essentially murder by government. It should piss us all off.

Isnt that what happened with the civil war? The overzealous government (Lincoln) shot a whole bunch of people for resisting an unlawful (see at least 1 supreme court case) arrests. All the while he took special powers beyond his scope to maintain "order" just like the cops do now.

 

[LouderVol]

Shaka Zulu, Mohammed, Cleopatra. Sitting Bull. All should be thrown out!

Yup. This is a very interesting line we can go down. I am honestly not sure who will still be standing if we actually applied these same standards equally.

 

[hog88]

Columbus was pretty much a POS

A lot of great men were. Sometimes it takes an azzhole to get things done.

 

[Bigun]

Lincoln actually was a racist. He's on record saying blacks were an inferior race. The Emancipation Proclamation got him a lot of love, but he didn't believe blacks were equal. He was more focused on preserving the Union than he was ending slavery.

As if that mattered. If you dont like racists why are the Democrats still in existence?

These far left idiots just want to erase all of history....

 

[Weezer]

As if that mattered. If you dont like racists why are the Democrats still in existence?

These far left idiots just want to erase all of history....

I guess you missed the point. The post I responded to acted as if Lincoln was not a racist when he clearly was. I would guess the majority of whites at the time felt that way regardless of their views on slavery simply because white and black were seen as different species(or whatever word would be appropriate) by most. There was not a uniform belief that we're all human. People tend to forget the ignorance of the past. So much of what we know now, wasn't known then. The mindset of society wasn't even close to the mindset of society today.


Just as a comparison, Darwin published On the Origin of Species a mere 2 years before the Civil War. The lens of time distorts a great many things. What seems obvious today was not so obvious 200 years ago. It's part of why I believe we are not responsible for the sins of those who came before us, just as those in the future should not be responsible for our sins today. You learn from the past and try to do better.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

Boy, was I wrong! Ole Teddy getting the axe. They’ve lost their f’ing collective minds.

New York City Museum Taking Down Statue Of President Theodore Roosevelt

If you want to tear down a statue of Grant, Lincoln, Churchill, and Roosevelt then you are an enemy of our civilization, plain and simple.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

I guess you missed the point. The post I responded to acted as if Lincoln was not a racist when he clearly was. I would guess the majority of whites at the time felt that way regardless of their views on slavery simply because white and black were seen as different species(or whatever word would be appropriate) by most. There was not a uniform belief that we're all human. People tend to forget the ignorance of the past. So much of what we know now, wasn't known then. The mindset of society wasn't even close to the mindset of society today.


Just as a comparison, Darwin published On the Origin of Species a mere 2 years before the Civil War. The lens of time distorts a great many things. What seems obvious today was not so obvious 200 years ago. It's part of why I believe we are not responsible for the sins of those who came before us, just as those in the future should not be responsible for our sins today. You learn from the past and try to do better.

Lincoln believed blacks were human. He alluded to their God given rights under the Consitution in many speeches.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

Lincoln actually was a racist. He's on record saying blacks were an inferior race. The Emancipation Proclamation got him a lot of love, but he didn't believe blacks were equal. He was more focused on preserving the Union than he was ending slavery.

If all Lincoln cared about was preserving the Union he could have done that by not coming out against slavery or walking it back after elected. Lincoln wanted a slave free union.

 

[Weezer]

Lincoln believed blacks were human. He alluded to their God given rights under the Consitution in many speeches.

He also called them an inferior species.