RIP Twitter

[n_huffhines]

Think about that.....

Of course we already have.

Almost nobody on your side of the debate understands this, hence the jokes that misrepresent the argument that you guys think are hilarious....but sex =/= gender. Nobody is saying biological sex is a construct. They are saying the concept of gender is. This would be akin to saying the concept of tallness is a construct. You're not saying height is a construct. Height is biological. So is sex.

 

[n_huffhines]

I almost have to assume people that defend Musk have no idea what's actually happening.

‘You Are Dead To Me’: Twitter Files Journalist Matt Taibbi Posts Unhinged Messages from Elon Musk

Journalist Matt Taibbi posted screenshots of unhinged messages he received from billionaire Twitter owner Elon Musk.

www.mediaite.com

 

[NashVol11]

I almost have to assume people that defend Musk have no idea what's actually happening.

They don’t, it’s people who don’t have Twitter but cheerlead him because they heard (from him) that he made the libs mad

 

[just bob]

Of course we already have.

Almost nobody on your side of the debate understands this, hence the jokes that misrepresent the argument that you guys think are hilarious....but sex =/= gender. Nobody is saying biological sex is a construct. They are saying the concept of gender is. This would be akin to saying the concept of tallness is a construct. You're not saying height is a construct. Height is biological. So is sex.

That's a long way of saying you have no idea what you're talking about. lol

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[joevol33]

They don’t, it’s people who don’t have Twitter but cheerlead him because they heard (from him) that he made the libs mad

No different than you all being against him, just because the left is mad he allows free speech on Twitter. None of you, not one, had a problem when Twitter was banning the conservatives. Actually, you were cheering, but nothing but salty tears since he allowed them back on to post.

 

[NashVol11]

No different than you all being against him, just because the left is mad he allows free speech on Twitter. None of you, not one, had a problem when Twitter was banning the conservatives. Actually, you were cheering, but nothing but salty tears since he allowed them back on to post.

I've said Twitter is worse now because it is (as someone who actually uses it unlike most here), and that he constantly says dumb **** and has a very weird fanbase because he does. The persecution complex about how people don't like him because he's this bold crusader for free speech is something he made up and dumb people fell for

 

[joevol33]

I've said Twitter is worse now because it is (as someone who actually uses it unlike most here), and that he constantly says dumb **** and has a very weird fanbase because he does. The persecution complex about how people don't like him because he's this bold crusader for free speech is something he made up and dumb people fell for

 

[joevol33]

And shouldn't you be at the gym working on that weak bench press, instead of being wrong on Volnation?

 

[NashVol11]

And shouldn't you be at the gym working on that weak bench press, instead of being wrong on Volnation?

See this made me laugh more than Elon's joke lol

 

[just bob]

I've said Twitter is worse now because it is (as someone who actually uses it unlike most here), and that he constantly says dumb **** and has a very weird fanbase because he does. The persecution complex about how people don't like him because he's this bold crusader for free speech is something he made up and dumb people fell for

I use twitter all of the time. What has made it worse? It's far better now than it was before because you can actually have different opinions. Is that why you hate it? It's not as much of an echo chamber as it was before for you? Elvis Chan from the FBI admitted to us what was wrong with it before. He was a major part of the coordinated effort to suppress facts on social media before the election.

 

[NashVol11]

I use twitter all of the time. What has made it worse? It's far better now than it was before because you can actually have different opinions. Is that why you hate it? It's not as much of an echo chamber as it was before for you?

- The entire site randomly going down, which has happened at least 2 or 3 times in the last couple of months
- Replies to any big post having nothing to do with the post, and instead being a bunch of ad/spam/self promo/OnlyFans BS
- Blue check for verification is worthless now
- Lots of reports of weird porn showing up for no reason
- Long ass essay tweets that no one wanted
- Destroyed tweet previews on other platforms
- Duplicate accounts for anyone (which was what the blue check was for, but now ruined)
- More bots and spam BS than ever before
- Smaller unnecessary downgrades like the fact that clicking on a reply to a tweet, and then going back, takes you to the top of the page instead of where you were

People who don't use Twitter: "iT's ThE fReE sPeEcH"

 

[just bob]

- The entire site randomly going down, which has happened at least 2 or 3 times in the last couple of months
- Replies to any big post having nothing to do with the post, and instead being a bunch of ad/spam/self promo/OnlyFans BS
- Blue check for verification is worthless now
- Lots of reports of weird porn showing up for no reason
- Long ass essay tweets that no one wanted
- Destroyed tweet previews on other platforms
- Duplicate accounts for anyone (which was what the blue check was for, but now ruined)
- More bots and spam BS than ever before
- Smaller unnecessary downgrades like the fact that clicking on a reply to a tweet, and then going back, takes you to the top of the page instead of where you were

People who don't use Twitter: "iT's ThE fReE sPeEcH"

According to my screen time I average 13 hours 45 minutes a week on twitter and that's embarrassing. Hopefully it counts extra time for no reason. I've never sent a message I only follow people and scroll.

It's crashed before, I've never been on for any of them.
That's always happened.
Blue check for verification was worthless before. People were paying 15 grand or more to get one to seem like they were of importance. It was a joke. And twitter wasn't "Verifying" people due to political differences. A lot of unfavorable (To the gov) journalists had there's removed.
Porn was always around. Though much more on "Taco Tuesday" and they do get creative. It's weird so I may give you this one.
The long tweets are meh, they appear short and there's an option to make it longer.
Unaware of what this means.
That's not true, the fake ones say parody like before and you can't have actual imposters. You're supposed to report to remove and they do, just like before.
I haven't experienced more bots and spam. Seems about the same - of course you need to realize that government officials and other evil groups will do anything to removed twitter from Elon.
I don't reply so I haven't experienced this.


None of these things you mention seem all that legit and they all pale in comparison to the massive censorship from before. Seems like it's only a political complaint. You can't ignore that the government paid twitter to censor factually information concerning the election. Hardcore extreme leftist hate it for it being less of an echo chamber, everyone else doesn't seem to see any terrible changes.

 

[Vol8188]

This is the type of meaningless BS that sounds smart to very stupid people. “Man” is, was and will always be a word defined by humans, it’s not “universal”

Nobody is saying biological sex is a construct.

You could claim that, huff, but you’d be wrong. Men only exist as definitions (meaning a social construct) according to some on this forum.

 

[NashVol11]

You could claim that, huff, but you’d be wrong. Men only exist as definitions (meaning a social construct) according to some on this forum.

“Claiming your side is the ‘universal truth’ side is laughably tribal” = “biological sex is a construct” if you can’t read or are dishonest about everything

 

[Vol8188]

“Claiming your side is the ‘universal truth’ side is laughably tribal” = “biological sex is a construct” if you can’t read or are dishonest about everything

Then why claim man is just a definition? If man is just a definition, then it is defined by society and therefore a social construct.

My argument is and has been that there is a universal truth to what a man is. Sure society tries to define it, but that doesn’t mean societal definitions are always correct. Just like how society has wrongly defined earth as being flat in the past, it is would also be wrong for society to pretend trans men and men are the same as you’re attempting to claim.

 

[Vol8188]

Of course we already have.

Almost nobody on your side of the debate understands this, hence the jokes that misrepresent the argument that you guys think are hilarious....but sex =/= gender. Nobody is saying biological sex is a construct. They are saying the concept of gender is. This would be akin to saying the concept of tallness is a construct. You're not saying height is a construct. Height is biological. So is sex.

It’s a fairly popular idea on the left that even sex is a social construct. This isn’t some rando but rather one of the leaders in this insane movement, Judith Butler that they’re talking about here

 

[Gandalf]

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ehhh, lets be serious. This has nothing to do with what Taibbi posts, its that substack, used twitter content to backfill its pages so subscribers would have more there and then created a twitter clone where it would direct people from actual Twitter pages (to get them off twitter and onto its own site).

So this was was less over any ideals of anyone and more that substack, wich Taibbi has a significant relationship, was trying to cut into Twitter's business at a very critical time as Musk was trying to turn the ship around. Of course, he is going to be pissed.

But eh, so what? doesnt make me really think any differently of either man.

 

[n_huffhines]

- The entire site randomly going down, which has happened at least 2 or 3 times in the last couple of months
- Replies to any big post having nothing to do with the post, and instead being a bunch of ad/spam/self promo/OnlyFans BS
- Blue check for verification is worthless now
- Lots of reports of weird porn showing up for no reason
- Long ass essay tweets that no one wanted
- Destroyed tweet previews on other platforms
- Duplicate accounts for anyone (which was what the blue check was for, but now ruined)
- More bots and spam BS than ever before
- Smaller unnecessary downgrades like the fact that clicking on a reply to a tweet, and then going back, takes you to the top of the page instead of where you were

People who don't use Twitter: "iT's ThE fReE sPeEcH"

- The most irrelevant, stupid, spammy push notifications
- Feed is a hellscape now. All I ever use is search anymore.

 

[n_huffhines]

ehhh, lets be serious. This has nothing to do with what Taibbi posts, its that substack, used twitter content to backfill its pages so subscribers would have more there and then created a twitter clone where it would direct people from actual Twitter pages (to get them off twitter and onto its own site).

So this was was less over any ideals of anyone and more that substack, wich Taibbi has a significant relationship, was trying to cut into Twitter's business at a very critical time as Musk was trying to turn the ship around. Of course, he is going to be pissed.

But eh, so what? doesnt make me really think any differently of either man.

Did anybody say it was over ideals? Not even sure what Musk's are.

This is Musk acting like a douche and turning on an ally over such a petty thing that Taibbi's not even sure what the problem is. I suppose you already thought Musk was on this level? I really don't understand your post. You think this is how people who deserve your support should act?

 

[just bob]

- The most irrelevant, stupid, spammy push notifications
- Feed is a hellscape now. All I ever use is search anymore.

I'll give you the bold. I do get some more unnecessary ones though nothing I think about.
What exactly with the feed is poor for you?

 

[n_huffhines]

I'll give you the bold. I do get some more unnecessary ones though nothing I think about.
What exactly with the feed is poor for you?

Lots of real estate for spammy ads. I used to like what the algorithm gave me from outside my follows. Not anymore.

 

[NashVol11]

Lol

 

[NashVol11]

None of these things you mention seem all that legit and they all pale in comparison to the massive censorship from before. Seems like it's only a political complaint. You can't ignore that the government paid twitter to censor factually information concerning the election. Hardcore extreme leftist hate it for it being less of an echo chamber, everyone else doesn't seem to see any terrible changes.

Buddy I listed like 12 reasons why it's worse now and there are several more, including the fact that speech on Twitter isn't any "freer" now, and your only response to those 12 things is just that your favorite right wingers are back on Twitter but I'M the one "being political" lmao

 

[just bob]

Buddy I listed like 12 reasons why it's worse now and there are several more, including the fact that speech on Twitter isn't any "freer" now, and your only response to those 12 things is just that your favorite right wingers are back on Twitter but I'M the one "being political" lmao

The vast majority of your complaints were extremely lame or were already occurring. It's just not as much of an echo chamber for you. You're not hard to figure out.