Rodger Hitler Godell is a moron/Vicious hits (merged)

#101
#101
DC Vol said:
It was a one time $75,000 fine. He makes over $13,000,000 this year. My math was wrong... it's 5%, not .005. He might have been fined a total of 10% this year as this isn't the first time he's been flagged for helmet-helmet.
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Gotcha, I was working from his base salary.
 
#102
#102
emainvol said:
Gotcha, I was working from his base salary.
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He's been fined a total of $125,000 this year which would make it roughly 9.6% of his yearly salary.

The hyperbole from the defenders is a bit much. Play the game without trying to ensure the guy you're tackling will be incontinent by the time he's 40 years old.
 
#103
#103
dobre_shunka said:
Players don't get to decide to play in the NFL? You're suggesting that they're forced to play professional football?

But you can buy videos and photos of these dangerous hits from the NFL. Odd way to show concern.
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You were talking about players having the choice to play. I am saying they had no say in the rule change. It wasn't their choice to change the rules.

The NFL stopped selling the pictures as soon as they changed the rule.

Rules change and **** happens. May as well roll with the punches. Nothing you can do to change it.
 
#104
#104
harrison says his purpose is to hurt other players as opposed to just tackling them. is that really the game?
 
#105
#105
Weld said:
harrison says his purpose is to hurt other players as opposed to just tackling them. is that really the game?
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He wants to hurt them, not injure them. Basically, he wants to send you out for a couple of plays instead of a couple of games, the season or your career.

What he doesn't understand is the short-term and long-term affects of concussions. I understand his mongoloid fervor for wanting to injure people... but this:

"I've talked to James, and he's very upset," Parise (agent) said. "He's quite confused about how to play football."
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Is pure idiocy. You don't know about how to play football without, again let me restate something I said earlier, rendering your opponent incontinent by age 40?
 
#106
#106
The NFL stopped selling photos when it was pointed out in several national media outlets that they were selling photos of these illegal hits at NFL.com and their hypocrisy became too much for even them to swallow.

There aren't any changes to the rules. They're just emphasizing them more supposedly.

At least one Brown's player understands how football is to be played.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/sports/football/browns/josh-cribbs-responds-to-harrisons-hit


“I have no bad will towards LB James Harrison. That's what he's suppose to do knock people out, it's what makes him one of the best,” Cribbs tweeted
 
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#107
#107
dobre_shunka said:
Harrison's hit wasn't helmet to helmet but pads to helmet which in large part was due to Massaquoi bobbling the pass and bending way down to make the catch

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Thanks for sharing this. I wasn't sure about the hit.
Proof right there, it was a clean hit.

Now, the Merrweather hit.... that's a different story.
 
#108
#108
I guess start aiming for the knees. I guess it's better to be out a year & remember it when ur 50 than for a week or 2 & not.
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#111
#111
VolBuck24 said:
I hate that too along with the spot of the foul pass interference call.
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I just hate that illegal contact is an automatic first down. It's bailed out many a 3rd and long offenses.

I wish college/NFL would adopt a standard PI rule. 15 yards for incidental PI and spot of foul for intentional.

Now, all this said I can't stand Goddell and I'm looking forward to seeing no football on Sundays in 2011.
 
#112
#112
govols/cc said:
I guess start aiming for the knees. I guess it's better to be out a year & remember it when ur 50 than for a week or 2 & not.
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Remember Harrison tackled Bo Scaife last year at the legs and Scaife cried afterward that was cheap shot.



Here's another example of the NFL's concern over devastating hits.

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#114
#114
I'll chime in, since I believe I'm qualified to render an opinion. I'm also consistent, as this thread from three years ago bears out:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/33176-calling-immediate-suspension.html

I'll just go in bullet points. It makes for easier fisking in response.
- The NFL has never had a need for rules regarding the use of the helmet as a weapon because, until about 20 years ago, the helmet was NOT used as a weapon
- The NFL has previously legislated many aspects of tackling, outlawing clotheslining, roughing the passer, the forearm tackle, and the head tackle. All of these, by the way, took place before 1960.
- One thing that I have noticed talking with oldtimers who played in the NFL is this. For all of the physical abuse that was taken, pretty much everyone who played most of their career pre-1975 still possesses a sharp mind despite the incredible physical toll. Post-1975 is an entirely different story; we're seeing guys in their late 30s barely able to remain continent, let alone string together coherent sentences. Players pre-1975 were retiring and going to law school, medical school, opening successful business, and being productive members of society. Post-1975, I'd say that that number for longtime players has plummeted. This is strictly anecdotal and circumstantial, but I think that many who have had a chance to talk to players from across the years have noticed the same thing.
 
#115
#115
mason3132 said:
He has hurt this game since he took over and will continue until it isnt fun to watch anymore. Players being suspended after no charges were filled. Players have to talk to him because that sent a picture of their packages to chicks. Violent hits are no longer allowed even though its not in the rule book come on dude lighten the ,,,, up.This is Football not badmitton.
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This is exactly what the "middle class" fan wanted.
 
#116
#116
...this is what gets you guys finally upset at him?

Nothing along the lines of the oh, i dunno, an upcoming lockout he wants to do nothing at all to attempt to help solve because he's more concerned with putting an NFL team in London and trying to get team to play their starters in week 17? suspension policies...nothing like that?
 
#117
#117
best thing i've seen written about it (and the problem) at all, even if it is from a fantasy football writer:

Ben Roethlisberger, Jeremy Maclin headline fantasy Week 6 stars - Will Carroll - SI.com

I like the part I bolded:

The rule is, Don't write angry. It's hard to keep my temper in check on a day where #helmettohelmet became a trending topic on Twitter. Sunday might have been the clearest indication yet that while the NFL is making progress regarding head injuries, the players are not. We still celebrate the big hit, and a way has to be found that keeps the "ooh" hit active while keeping players from blending their brains week after week. First, we need a clear statement from both Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith that helmet-to-helmet hits are not going to be tolerated and they'll take the necessary steps for punishment, if warranted. Fines don't seem to be working, so maybe suspensions will. Those can be reviewed by the league each week.

Second, we need to do more about helmets. It would start with forcing players to actually snap their helmets and wear a mouthpiece, but something like an X Prize would do more. The NFL and NFLPA could go in together to give a $1 million prize and endorsement to whoever comes up with a new helmet design that can help reduce concussions. Whether it's some giant sporting goods company or some guy in his garage, a big check works to move technology forward. If we can dig 33 guys out of the ground in Chile, we can build a better helmet.
Finally, we have to take a team-controlled medical staff out of the equation. Team doctors need to be league-controlled, giving them a level of independence, changing from team physicians to game physicians. Assign them out the way the league does with officials. Once we have that, there's a simple rule change: No player that necessitates an official's timeout can come back into the game before being cleared by the Game Physician. I'm curious whether the video replay official -- the guy "in the booth" who calls for reviews in the last two minutes of each half -- could be empowered to call for reviews and possible ejections, but that seems like it would slow the game down.

These aren't new suggestions. In fact, I introduced these changes in the Football Outsiders Almanac back in 2007. The NFL has started listening to the right people, but there's a lot more to do. The hardest part is reminding people that while you might see a player like Aaron Rodgers or Jay Cutler back a week or two later and playing high-level football, it's those guys in their 40s and 50s -- or younger -- that have lost memory of their glory days because they played before we understood the damage concussions were doing.
Let's fast forward through Week 6:
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#118
#118
TrueOrange said:
...this is what gets you guys finally upset at him?

Nothing along the lines of the oh, i dunno, an upcoming lockout he wants to do nothing at all to attempt to help solve because he's more concerned with putting an NFL team in London and trying to get team to play their starters in week 17? suspension policies...nothing like that?
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I've been angry at him for a long while now......and I mentioned my disdain at the irregular suspension policies.
 
#120
#120
If the hit is clean then no fine. If it's blatant leading with the helmet then fine the guy. Violence is part of the game, always has been. The QB rules are sissy and this deal here is going to have players playing timid. That sucks for the players and fans. I don't want to watch a glorified game of two hand touch and i'd hope most don't either.
 
#122
#122
Cartervol said:
If the hit is clean then no fine. If it's blatant leading with the helmet then fine the guy. Violence is part of the game, always has been. The QB rules are sissy and this deal here is going to have players playing timid. That sucks for the players and fans. I don't want to watch a glorified game of two hand touch and i'd hope most don't either.
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But if we don't have those rules we couldn't witness a glorious hissy fit when dreamboat thinks he's been rudely treated.

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#123
#123
... But Carson Palmer getting taken out of the playoffs with a cheap shot is still a-okay.

I'm looking at you, Stealers.
 
#124
#124
tigervol9802 said:
I could live with that trade-off.

And probably just added 3 years to Charles Woodson's NFL career.
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No kidding....He could get flagged on every single ball thrown his way. Ridiculous how they let him get away with the contact. And when he does get flagged, his response is priceless.
 
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