Ron Paul Can't Win

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#827
nbakerld said:
I don't believe that you are anti-freedom, but I believe you support candidates that are anti-constitution/freedom, and are warmongers.
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right, keep making assumptions like that and I'll start calling you "gsvol, jr."
 
#828
#828
MG1968 said:
right, keep making assumptions like that and I'll start calling you "gsvol, jr."
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Oh please don't. Anything but that.

The fact that you don't even recognize they push a counter-constitutional, freedom-to-the-back-burner agenda puts you in the GS category. Ever heard of the PATRIOT Act? Which Republican do you support that is against the PATRIOT Act?
 
#829
#829
volfanjustin said:
Maybe you should read it again because it's clear you didn't comprehend what I wrote.
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I did and it was funny. Why didn't Lieberman simply run as an I when it was obvious that was the way to win? He is a Dem, got beat and then ran as an I to get the stupid Repubs to vote for him too. What good came of that?

Do you only advocate people run if they have a chance of winning? Should they just choose the letter next to their name depending on the election?
 
#831
#831
utvolpj said:
I did and it was funny. Why didn't Lieberman simply run as an I when it was obvious that was the way to win? He is a Dem, got beat and then ran as an I to get the stupid Repubs to vote for him too. What good came of that?

Do you only advocate people run if they have a chance of winning? Should they just choose the letter next to their name depending on the election?
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No, that is what the primary process is for, so the voters of a particular party can decide the best candidate for them. My first choice was Cain, I would not support him if he decided to run on a 3rd party ticket. Why would I volunteer to throw my vote away?

What would be the purpose in him running as an I? he has less chance to win the general as an I than he did to win the R nomination.
 
#832
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MG1968 said:
right, keep making assumptions like that and I'll start calling you "gsvol, jr."
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My only issue with you and people like you is that you don't want to make the tough decisions right now. So you support guys that want to nibble and tweak at the problems with out really making any necessary changes. This country cannot continue down it's current path. At some point, we have to change direction.

A vote for Romney is a "safe" vote. There's no urgency in his message.
 
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volfanjustin said:
No, that is what the primary process is for, so the voters of a particular party can decide the best candidate for them. My first choice was Cain, I would not support him if he decided to run on a 3rd party ticket. Why would I volunteer to throw my vote away?

What would be the purpose in him running as an I? he has less chance to win the general as an I than he did to win the R nomination.
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perfect example of why we're currently in this state. I'm voting for who I think will be the best option to be Pres. You're simply voting for what you're given.

sometimes you play the game even when you don't have a great chance to win
 
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#834
volfanjustin said:
No, that is what the primary process is for, so the voters of a particular party can decide the best candidate for them. My first choice was Cain, I would not support him if he decided to run on a 3rd party ticket. Why would I volunteer to throw my vote away?

What would be the purpose in him running as an I? he has less chance to win the general as an I than he did to win the R nomination.
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If none of the other candidates from the GOP or Dems fit my philosophy, and you seem to be saying that a vote for 3rd party candidates is a throw away vote, then what am I supposed to do?
 
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volfanjustin said:
No, that is what the primary process is for, so the voters of a particular party can decide the best candidate for them. My first choice was Cain, I would not support him if he decided to run on a 3rd party ticket. Why would I volunteer to throw my vote away?

What would be the purpose in him running as an I? he has less chance to win the general as an I than he did to win the R nomination.
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Anyone who has read my posts on here knows politically where I stand on the issues as far as being left leaning or right leaning.

If Ron Paul doesn't get the GOP nomination and doesn't run as an independent, what should I do?
 
#837
#837
The way I believe is. The primaries are the place to vote for the person you really want, the general is the place to sometimes vote for the lesser of two evils.
 
#838
#838
Rasputin_Vol said:
If none of the other candidates from the GOP or Dems fit my philosophy, and you seem to be saying that a vote for 3rd party candidates is a throw away vote, then what am I supposed to do?
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I would sit at home. You might as well vote for yourself if you vote for a 3rd party.
 
#840
#840
Rasputin_Vol said:
My only issue with you and people like you is that you don't want to make the tough decisions right now. So you support guys that want to nibble and tweak at the problems with out really making any necessary changes. This country cannot continue down it's current path. At some point, we have to change direction.

A vote for Romney is a "safe" vote. There's no urgency in his message.
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have you ever seen a post of mine where I supported this status quo?

I realize that you're not on late at night, but I really wish you'd seen my post on how I would cut the military.
 
#841
#841
I already know I'm voting 3rd party in this election unless something changes. In no way do I see it as throwing my vote away. In fact I see voting for a candidate that you don't believe in to be a wasted vote
 
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volfanjustin said:
I would sit at home. You might as well vote for yourself if you vote for a 3rd party.
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Depending on what state you are in, the number of votes a party's candidate received in the prior election helps to make it easier for that party to get a candidate on the ballot the next time around, from what I've been able to understand. So really, voting 3rd party in this election will help to lay down the ground work for the next election.
 
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#843
#843
Rasputin_Vol said:
Depending on what state you are in, the number of votes a party's candidate received in the prior election helps to make it easier for that party to get a candidate on the ballot the next time around, from what I've been able to understand. So really, voting 3rd party in this election will help to lay down the ground work for the next election.
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So you think Paul may run again?
 
#844
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utvolpj said:
I already know I'm voting 3rd party in this election unless something changes. In no way do I see it as throwing my vote away. In fact I see voting for a candidate that you don't believe in to be a wasted vote
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Good for you, I do.
 
#845
#845
utvolpj said:
I already know I'm voting 3rd party in this election unless something changes. In no way do I see it as throwing my vote away. In fact I see voting for a candidate that you don't believe in to be a wasted vote
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despite what I've said previously, I'm seriously considering not voting for President at all
 
#850
#850
We're not so different, you and I....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98j0I7e5OHE[/youtube]

There's a different side to Iran that we don't really see. I feel like we could have a lot bigger impact in shaping things there if we were to become friendly. They seem a lot more western than I had imagined.
 
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