Ron Paul Can't Win

[n_huffhines]

And yeah, the LP says government should stay out of abortion. Ron Paul just says the Federal government should stay out of abortion, and supports the states banning it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not sure why he came back to the GOP. He should be honest about who he is and stick with the Libertarians.

The current system only gives air time to the two main parties. Had he run as a libertarian, even fewer people than right now would even know who he is or what is positions are. That is the way the system is set up. Outside of the 2 party system, you are nothing.

People deep down know this to be true, but I still wonder why they continue to act like there isn't a big 2 party machine out there.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

didn't you just say that changing the GOP would take time?

the LP is already established and has a platform that lines up with Paul in almost every way, but he can't run as a Libertarian because, according to you, it would be too hard.

It would be too hard. But it's not like his principles are far from the traditional values of other GOP candidates of the past (Reagan or Goldwater).

Don't make it as though Ron Paul is that far away from the mainstream of the GOP on all issues. He basically has issues on 2 items: foreign policy and the FED.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

so it's "to hell with my principles, I want to be the candidate of a party I have nothing in common with and is actively trying to sabotage my candidacy"?

Here you go with the hyperbole. Paul's issues in 80-90% of his platform are conservative. Don't make it out as though he is Chairman Mao. I mean, seriously.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

It would be too hard. But it's not like his principles are far from the traditional values of other GOP candidates of the past (Reagan or Goldwater).

Don't make it as though Ron Paul is that far away from the mainstream of the GOP on all issues. He basically has issues on 2 items: foreign policy and the FED.

Some of his social stances (i.e. gay marriage, drugs) are pretty far removed from the mainstream GOP, as well.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

if RP ends up running as a 3rd party candidate, it's going to be interesting to hear the verbal gymnastics used to justify that decision

There will not be any verbal gymnastics necessary. How do you figure there will be any need for any distortion or spin? It is what it is... the GOP has drifted away from it's conservative principles and Ron Paul has stayed where he was. He didn't move away from the party, the party has drifted away from him. The same things that he ran on in the late 70's are what he is campaigning on right now. Can you say the same about the GOP between 1976 and 2012?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

according to you, he can't run as a Libertarian because the two-party system is too entrenched, but he has an awesome chance as a 3rd party candidate?

btw, here is the Libertarian Party's platform:

Platform | Libertarian Party

It would still be an uphill battle because he probably will not be invited to any of the major debates in late September-October. So don't make it out as though his supporters think the Libertarian option is going to be much better.

He's working against the entire 2 party system.

 

[milohimself]

Here you go with the hyperbole. Paul's issues in 80-90% of his platform are conservative. Don't make it out as though he is Chairman Mao. I mean, seriously.

Then what the gop platform is and what many of it's representatives do are very different

 

[MystifyingVol]

Then what the gop platform is and what many of it's representatives do are very different

But we can turn a blind eye to that fact if they have a R next to their name, they're just doing it in the name of compromise.

NOBP

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

What Is So Appealing About Ron Paul To Young Voters? | Fox News

 

[MystifyingVol]

What Is So Appealing About Ron Paul To Young Voters? | Fox News

I'm sure it's only because he wants to legalize marijuana. Kids are too dumb to think seriously about anything else he stands for.

 

[Weezy]

I never realized how un-watchable Piers Morgan was until his show with Ron Paul. His use of the GM bailout and Warren Buffett was like the Chewbacca defense.

 

[Gramps]

I never realized how un-watchable Piers Morgan was until his show with Ron Paul. His use of the GM bailout and Warren Buffett was like the Chewbacca defense.

Piers has a terrible show.

 

[OrangeEmpire]

I always wanted a t-shirt with a picture of RP with Obama "Hope" art with the caption reading "Dr. No".

This

 

[Mr_Henley]

I'm sure it's only because he wants to legalize marijuana. Kids are too dumb to think seriously about anything else he stands for.

Sarcasm here?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIZQO_gZvTQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G221b0e2FUAAAAAAABAA[/youtube]

 

[GAVol]

Somebody get that guy a Valium.

 

[myrobbins7]

Somebody get that guy a Valium.

I think he is great!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Somebody get that guy a Valium.

He doesn't need Valium.

That is what you call passion.

He is voting for Ron Paul... not voting against Obama.

 

[GAVol]

He doesn't need Valium.

That is what you call passion.

He is voting for Ron Paul... not voting against Obama.

You often find yourself driving around in a car rambling and screaming?

 

[GAVol]

On second thought . . . . Don't answer that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I think he is great!

He's a mad man... Just like Paul.

Drunk on liberty.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIZQO_gZvTQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G221b0e2FUAAAAAAABAA[/youtube]

Epic!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

On second thought . . . . Don't answer that.

So, he's a nutcase that needs to be dismissed? Lets not pay attention to the substance in his video?

Wow... OK.

 

[GAVol]

So, he's a nutcase that needs to be dismissed? Lets not pay attention to the substance in his video?

Wow... OK.

I know I'm among RP supporters here, but come on. The guy looks and sounds like what would happen if Herman Cain and Don King had a child.