Rotation for 2012-2013 season...

#76
#76
zansdad said:
I will try to go at it from this angle. McBee knows his role on the team. I am not sure McRae does or that Richardson can fill it. Chievous and Reese have never played a single game against D1 competition let alone SEC competition. Just a few months ago people on here, you included, were speculating that Chievous might be asked to go elsewhere. Now, he has a couple good RTL games and he's being pencilled in for 20 min a game. I just don't see it and until I do I will stick with McBee gets 20 mins a game.

And, I don't know how you can honestly talk about Josh R, who shot a whopping 24% 3pt last year to be in the 35%-39% range. If he does then fine, but I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
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I don't expect it from Reese so let me clarify that. Chievous, I admitted I hadn't seen any of so I just didn't know what to expect, just assumed that if he redshirted there was a reason. Started heading rumblings that the redshirt was predetermined and had nothing to do with his ability, and that actually he most likely would've played over josh. After watching Q, reading quotes from CCM, and reading Quinn's piece on him, I now see exactly what others were talking about.

As far as josh, if it's true that he's been working on it then who knows. The key will be can he make a high % of open set shots that come off kick outs from the post if, if he can that's fine. His stroke in the AIA games appeared improved, same for the RTL games, and Quinn is reporting the same from practice.

As far as great gains being so unrealistic, golden went from 18% last year to 39% this year.
 
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#77
#77
bleedingTNorange said:
I don't expect it from Reese so let me clarify that. Chievous, I admitted I hadn't seen any of so I just didn't know what to expect, just assumed that if he redshirted there was a reason. Started heading rumblings that the redshirt was predetermined and had nothing to do with his ability, and that actually he most likely would've played over josh. After watching Q, reading quotes from CCM, and reading Quinn's piece on him, I now see exactly what others were talking about.

As far as josh, if it's true that he's been working on it then who knows. The key will be can he make a high % of open set shots that come off kick outs from the post if, if he can that's fine. His stroke in the AIA games appeared improved, same for the RTL games, and Quinn is reporting the same from practice.

As far as great gains being so unrealistic, golden went from 18% last year to 39% this year.
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I have no idea where Reese came from. :/ I was thinking Edwards, thought I typed Edwards and yet somehow Reese is what came out. Anyway, yeah you never said Reese it was Edwards I was trying to bring up. Comparing Golden's Freshman year to Richardson's is apples to oranges. Golden was shell shocked and his confidence was gone 10 games into the season. His performance this year was what Golden is capable of. His jump was a product of regaining confidence in himself. Much like Maymon's overall improvement in one season. For Richardson to improve that much it would have to be an improvement in his form, which while he might improve, I don't see jumping 10%+.
 
#78
#78
zansdad said:
I have no idea where Reese came from. :/ I was thinking Edwards, thought I typed Edwards and yet somehow Reese is what came out. Anyway, yeah you never said Reese it was Edwards I was trying to bring up. Comparing Golden's Freshman year to Richardson's is apples to oranges. Golden was shell shocked and his confidence was gone 10 games into the season. His performance this year was what Golden is capable of. His jump was a product of regaining confidence in himself. Much like Maymon's overall improvement in one season. For Richardson to improve that much it would have to be an improvement in his form, which while he might improve, I don't see jumping 10%+.
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Like I said the key for Richardson is the open set shots, the easier looks. If he can hit those at a high % that's fine, we don't need him taking tough contested pull up threes. It will be essential though, no matter who's put there, that they can hit the kickout three scrim the posts on a consistent basis.
 
#79
#79
bleedingTNorange said:
Like I said the key for Richardson is the open set shots, the easier looks. If he can hit those at a high % that's fine, we don't need him taking tough contested pull up threes. It will be essential though, no matter who's put there, that they can hit the kickout three scrim the posts on a consistent basis.
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Agreed on hitting the kick outs. I just am more of a "believe it when I see it" guy and the only two players on the current roster that are proven shooters are McBee and Golden.
 
#80
#80
zansdad said:
Agreed on hitting the kick outs. I just am more of a "believe it when I see it" guy and the only two players on the current roster that are proven shooters are McBee and Golden.
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McRae at 33% isn't too far off, getting some shots up, and better shot selection and he should be up around the 35-38% range which is fine for him.

I can't wait for the Italy trip, good competition and we should learn a lot more about some of these guys progression, or lack there of.
 
#81
#81
bleedingTNorange said:
McRae at 33% isn't too far off, getting some shots up, and better shot selection and he should be up around the 35-38% range which is fine for him.

I can't wait for the Italy trip, good competition and we should learn a lot more about some of these guys progression, or lack there of.
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It will be interesting. Historically speaking team's that have overseas trips tend to perform well that season, so let's hope that holds true for UT.
 
#83
#83
Revisiting this post some workouts, some reports from practice and the RTL...

Golden 30/ Moore 10
McRae 25/ Richardson 15
Edwards 25/ Q 15
Maymon 30/ stokes 10
Stokes 20/ hall 20


This is JMO, not a favorite not having skylar I'm sure, but JMO. Skylar as yemi will see minutes, it just won't be consistent, each will probably average 5-10, it'll just vary by night though, and some games may not see much time at all. I will say if Moore isn't ready, josh gets backup PG minutes, and skylar slides to the backup 2, and Moore sees very few minutes.

Italy can't come soon enough.
 
#84
#84
I think it's possible to see Richardson get some minutes at the point. Not every game or anything, but he may be a good option at times.
 
#85
#85
I still got this:

PG Golden 30/Moore 10
SG McRae 25/McBee 15/
SF Edwards 25/Richardson 15
PF Maymon 30/Hall 10
C Stokes 30/Hall 10

Yemi plays in foul trouble situations.
 
#86
#86
bleedingTNorange said:
PG: Trae Golden 30/ Richardson 10
SG: Jordan McRae 20/ mcbee 15/ josh 5
SF: D'montre Edwards 30/ Mcrae 10
F: Jarnell Stokes 30/ maymon 10
F: Jeronne Maymom 20/ Kenny 15/ yemi 5
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Still rolling with this, and feeling even better about it than I did when I posted it.

Word out of practice so far is Moore is good, but is disappointing at backup PG, looking much more like a 2 at this point. If that's the case then I feel good about my Richardson prediction as he has been the only other guy getting PG work this summer.

Everything else is pretty self explanatory, everyone knows my feelings on D'montre, and jordy.
 
#87
#87
zjcvols said:
PG Trae Golden 30 minutes/Armani Moore 10 minutes
SG Jordan McRae 25 minutes/Skylar McBee 15 minutes
SF Josh Richardson 25 minutes/D'Montre Edwards 10 minutes/Jordan McRae 5 minutes
PF Jeronne Maymon 30 minutes/Kenny Hall 10 minutes
C Jarnell Stokes 30 minutes/Kenny Hall 10 minutes
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zjcvols said:
I still got this:

PG Golden 30/Moore 10
SG McRae 25/McBee 15/
SF Edwards 25/Richardson 15
PF Maymon 30/Hall 10
C Stokes 30/Hall 10
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This is what you had, when'd you decide to change josh and D'montre?
 
#92
#92
What about Quinton Chievous? I didn't scroll through the whole thread, just a couple of pages and didn't see anything about him. I kind of have this fantasy that he will walk right in and be a solid contributor this year after red shirting last season. Anybody heard anything noteworthy about him?
 
#93
#93
seaofORANGE22 said:
What about Quinton Chievous? I didn't scroll through the whole thread, just a couple of pages and didn't see anything about him. I kind of have this fantasy that he will walk right in and be a solid contributor this year after red shirting last season. Anybody heard anything noteworthy about him?
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He's looked and sounded good so far. I don't see him beating out jordy or Edwards, he may be able to beat out Richardson for some minutes at the 3, will be interesting to watch.
 
#94
#94
bleedingTNorange said:
He's looked and sounded good so far. I don't see him beating out jordy or Edwards, he may be able to beat out Richardson for some minutes at the 3, will be interesting to watch.
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It's kind of nice that we will most likely get four more years with him. From what I've heard he didn't play a ton of organized basketball growing up. So last year was probably really good for him. I imagine that he was pretty raw.

At some point I have a feeling he could be a big player for us. But you're probably right, barring some type of injury, he may not be taking many of those minutes this year. But who knows. If he plays hard defense, I would think Martin would find a way to use him. Gonna be interesting indeed.
 
#95
#95
bleedingTNorange said:
Only reason I asked was cause I think I'm the only person who had D'montre as a starter haha.
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If he can provide good D and consistent three point shooting, he'll see significant minutes. I don't think you are crazy.
 
#96
#96
bleedingTNorange said:
Exactly, very well said. It's not as much about Mcbee as it is others, if the others will play with the same defensive intensity and are capable of hitting the open shot, while then were better with them. Skylar wasn't a 50% 3pt shooter, infact his % wasn't what you'd consider to be a 3 point specialist, like a Brady heslip. So if Richardson, McRae and chievous can hit the 3 around 35% and committ to playing defense, we are a much better team with them out there.

Everything I've heard and seen shows...Jordan is playing with much more energy and commitment on both ends, the IQ I'm unsure about still though. Richardson has definitely worked on his shot, the elbow is in a better spot, and he's hitting the 3 with consistency. Chievous has a SEC body, plays hard and great defender and rebounder, reminds me of Richardson but bigger stronger and probably not quite the defender. However, his offensive game looks to be very solid and his shot looks nice and has a deep range.

I see a 4 man rotation on the wings: McRae, Edwards, Richardson an chievous and probably some spot minutes for skylar, but for the most part I don't think we see him.
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"Like Brady Heslip"? Nice reference since Heslip will be the best pure shooter in America next year. It is always great when posters reference the national scene. With this years Tennessee team that is a smart move. I like this team making a run to the ATL and winning the SEC outright (assuming the obvious the team stays injury free).

I hesitated to use a UConn handle on a Tennessee message board but respect the capabilities of this years Vol's team immensly. The chalk this year is weak and the Vol's could be in Atlanta if they can get at least a # 3 seed. UConn won the National Championship with Kemba as a #3 seed after not making the NCAA tournament the year before. The exact same thing could happen this year to the Vol's.

Of course UConn is deservedly banned because of our egotistical self centered coach who lost touch with his roots and the compliance rules. Time for JC to leave...Go Vol's
 
#97
#97
UConnBasketball said:
"Like Brady Heslip"? Nice reference since Heslip will be the best pure shooter in America next year. It is always great when posters reference the national scene. With this years Tennessee team that is a smart move. I like this team making a run to the ATL and winning the SEC outright (assuming the obvious the team stays injury free).

I hesitated to use a UConn handle on a Tennessee message board but respect the capabilities of this years Vol's team immensly. The chalk this year is weak and the Vol's could be in Atlanta if they can get at least a # 3 seed. UConn won the National Championship with Kemba as a #3 seed after not making the NCAA tournament the year before. The exact same thing could happen this year to the Vol's.

Of course UConn is deservedly banned because of our egotistical self centered coach who lost touch with his roots and the compliance rules. Time for JC to leave...Go Vol's
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Welcome aboard. Good to have rational fans of other teams posting.
 
#98
#98
Thanks zansdad. Appreciate the hospitality. I'm incredibly excited about the upcoming season. Just a huge college hoops junky that found my way to this board because my gut tells me on the weekend of April 6, 2013 this board could be on fire!

Good luck and above all best of health to everyone. :)
 
#99
#99
UConnBasketball said:
Thanks zansdad. Appreciate the hospitality. I'm incredibly excited about the upcoming season. Just a huge college hoops junky that found my way to this board because my gut tells me on the weekend of April 6, 2013 this board could be on fire!

Good luck and above all best of health to everyone. :)
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If that happens we'll consider you our good luck charm and give you instant bandwagon rights.
 
#100
#100
UConnBasketball said:
Thanks zansdad. Appreciate the hospitality. I'm incredibly excited about the upcoming season. Just a huge college hoops junky that found my way to this board because my gut tells me on the weekend of April 6, 2013 this board could be on fire!

Good luck and above all best of health to everyone. :)
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You from CT? I was born there, lived there till about 12.

You're right about it being time for Calhoun to go though, time to pass the reigns to Ollie.
 
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