Rumors The Holly Warlick era may be coming to an end SOON.

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LadyVol1908 said:


Interesting.
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Pardon the Ignorance but who is this fellow Chad Withrow?

I personally feel like Holly should just step down. I think it will look better on her behalf rather than being fired. Make up something; a lot going on in my life right now that needs to be tended to and basketball will need to take a backseat for now.
IF it happens it’ll be bittersweet. She seems like a great lady and has orange running through her veins but the coaching thing just was not meant for her.
 
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"How are you feeling about this Madtown? I’d love to hear your perspective. "

Thanks LadyVol1908 for asking.

Here is the quick evolution of my stance toward Coach Warlick.

I thought her initial hire was a mistake (like many here) because I felt she had defined herself as a lifelong assistant, who unlike DeMoss, never moved on to a head coaching role, despite offers.

However, CHW surprised me with how well the team played under her stead during those first 3 years. Offensively, the LVs played with more freedom and flow than they had under the last few seasons under CPS. During that run, I have no doubt they were Izzy Harrison's torn ACL from a final four and maybe more. I began to think I had underestimated Holly.

What has also become clear, however, is that there a was positive legacy from CPS, in terms of discipline and attention to detail, that carried over during those three strong years that meshed nicely with Holly's more forgiving, less demanding, "nice job" approach. The good habits were formed and now the kids could out and play with freedom and flair. Now, unfortunately, we have no foundation and hence, the flair attempts often fall short of success.

So, it has been a slow and steady decline since those three good years, with an occassional uptick here and there. I have been saying consistently that Holly has been burning up the goodwill from her strong start but that her recruiting classes had bought her additional some time.

I have been often brandished a "Holly lover" for that stance, but it really is just a reasoned assessment of the situation. You don't fire CPS's loyal successor who had won 75% of her games and had two top tier recruiting classes coming in, even with some recent down years, without giving her what would appear to outside observers as a fair shot with her blue chip recruits. To do so, would have been a PR disaster for the University.

I thought she would have this year and next to deliver an SEC title and return the LVs back to a final four (or maybe the elite 8 at minimum). I believe the terms of her extension were consistent with the idea that she had, in effect, a two-year probationary period.

My one caveat was that if the team totally fell apart (which I did not envision at the start of the season), then a change might be made sooner. The previous 3 losses were moving in that directtion but they were just so close that I am not sure they necessarily set off a 4 alarm fire at the AD's office.
I would imagine the Alabama loss being not only an historic 4 in a row but also being one of the worst performances in the history of the program has the alarms ringing.

The nationally televised game against ND might be the make-or-break. If the LVs get embarrassed in that game, that is probably the point of no return and UT buys her out or she steps down.

My guess is that the UTAD would still like her to finish the season and then make a change (barring a miraculous turnaround) but a lot hinges on the next week.

Personally, I think a change is definitely needed. And I think it is time to look beyond the LV family and bring in a fresh approach.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
No it is five in a row to Bama we lost the last game we played them in 2015-16, then twice in 2016-17, then last year, then this year.
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Ooops! Sorry, I was thinking of the current in-season losing streak, not the series streak with Bama.
 
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ksl415 said:
Pardon the Ignorance but who is this fellow Chad Withrow?
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A co-host on Nashville's highest rated sports talk radio station, 104.5 the Zone's Midday 180, as well as a UT alum. While I wouldn't necessarily take what he says as the gospel, he is still fairly well connected to the university. Hopefully in this case, where there's smoke...
 
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Amb3096 said:
This Arky game might be the most important game of Holly's career. At home, We Back Pat night, against a weak Arky team, already lost 4 straight and 1-4 in the SEC, and a pending loss to Notre Dame to follow. If they lose, they could end up with a 7 game losing streak (LSU will be a serious threat to win).

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I think we win butt I am selfishly saying this and will prob get some flack but I hope we lose.
 
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ksl415 said:
I think we win butt I am selfishly saying this and will prob get some flack but I hope we lose.
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I'm not invested either way. I do want Holly gone, though. As long as she continues to recruit well, she will stockpile enough talent that will be mismanaged under her leadership, but will win enough games to beat her cupcake OOC schedule and SEC bottom feeders to keep her job and continue to run the program to the ground.

In other words, I won't be sad if they lost.
 
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Amb3096 said:
I'm not invested either way. I do want Holly gone, though. As long as she continues to recruit well, she will stockpile enough talent that will be mismanaged under her leadership, but will win enough games to beat her cupcake OOC schedule and SEC bottom feeders to keep her job and continue to run the program to the ground.

In other words, I won't be sad if they lost.
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I could never, ever hope for a Lady Vol loss, but I certainly get where you’re coming from.

Like you, I am beginning to feel like it is going to take a collapse so undeniably complete, so humiliating, so devastating to the program to finally be enough to make a change at the top. One would like to think that neither Holly nor Fulmer would wait THAT long, but, well...

We’ll see!
 
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Amb3096 said:
Losing at home to Arky on "We Back Pat" night should do it.

If not, the fact that they will be in such a hole in the SEC standings that they'll likely miss the NCAAT should seal the deal.

If that doesn't cut it, we should just be prepared to live with her because she ain't going nowhere 🤐
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Yes and Arky will be a better coached team than ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Special Ed said:
Used to be that folks would hang holly during the Christmas season.
But UT fans now want to hang Holly all season long.
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Agree clever, and I’m not taking all this so seriously that I don’t see the humor. But personally I don’t want to hang her. She’s all Vol, was a great player, and apparently a great assistant to CPS. She was just never up to this task, or even close. My frustration with her is not being sufficiently self-aware to recognize it and step down a long time ago. But it is human nature to hang on and keep trying. So ultimately it’s poor administration. I hope the rumors are true. Hard for her, but she’s been well paid and the program is obviously way more important.
 
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[QUOTE="LadyVol1908, post: 16359875, member:

I would have everyone eat and drink on meeeee
 
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