Russia Already Interfering With 2020 Election: Seeks to Re-Elect Trump

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luthervol said:
I've already previously stated that I have 100% confidence that everyone running on the dem side has far greater character than does Trump.....so it would be impossible for me to support the most horrendous despicable person ever.
I'll go further, and on record. If the dems pick a candidate that is anywhere near as horrendously despicable as is Trump, I will refuse to vote or vote 3rd party. I'll define anywhere near as within 20% of Trump on the horrendously despicable continuum.
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The logic is broken.

I have 100% confidence that that they won't pick someone as horrible as Trump does not negate the statement that you will pick anyone with a chance to unseat Trump--unless you view yourself as all-knowing.
 
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0nelilreb said:
When you have Trump as the Apex of all things horrendous, everything is acceptable and justified eventually .. that’s some Hitler level propaganda if I’ve ever seen any . When you make someone , something , or a group out to be the absolute in anything , everything done to remove the obsession is permissible.
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I've been pointing this out for over a year. You've just had a eureka moment, I think. And it's not Hitler, it's Stalin.

Marxist Ethics and Proletariat Morality
 
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Weezer said:
lmao How is it ignorant? Would he have been on that debate stage without his billions of dollars? We both know the answer to that. He bought his way in. And some of the other candidates called him on it last night. Especially Warren. And they did so while railing against the rich. Hell, Pete even said he was the only one on stage that wasn't a millionaire. So the rich people on stage railed against rich people, and Bloomberg got to participate after buying his way in. The hypocrisy was incredibly thick, and if you had bothered to watch the debate of the people you support, you'd have seen it. But why expose yourself to the character of whoever it is you're going to vote for, right? Character matters, but not really. The name on the ballot doesn't matter, just the D next to their name.
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If he didn't have billions, then he wouldn't be funding his own campaign. I guess the question would have to be, should it be illegal for someone to fund their own campaign? I would assume you guys would say "hell no, it shouldn't be illegal."
Then the next logical question would have to be, "should their be rules in place that keeps someone who is legally funding his own campaign off of the debate stage?" I'm guessing (hoping) all of us can see the ridiculous inconsistency. Either someone should not be allowed to fund their own campaign or they should have reasonable avenues to being part of the debate.
The fact that so many are trying to make that some dirty DNC deal for money and/or to back stab Bernie is just one more example of an attempt to make a conspiracy out of nothing.

Character matters significantly, that is why I am 100% intent on voting for someone with higher character that Trump.
 
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0nelilreb said:
You do realize that anyone at anytime could take that same stance with ( place subject here) and that would then give them the same hill to stand on as you are , regardless of any facts you post to the contrary right ? Just think if we all thought that about Obama , everything that happened after him then would be justified .
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Of course. People can stand on hill and claim whatever they wish. Someone can claim cancer is a blessing. Another can claim Islam should be the only religion. Obviously, the fact that someone stands on a hill and spouts something, doesn't make it true.
But if two people are standing on two hills, one claiming the Earth is flat, the other claiming the Earth is round, they are obviously not equally correct merely because they are proclaiming their beliefs from a hill.
 
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luthervol said:
Of course. People can stand on hill and claim whatever they wish. Someone can claim cancer is a blessing. Another can claim Islam should be the only religion. Obviously, the fact that someone stand on a hill and spouts something, doesn't make it true.
But if two people are standing on two hills, one claiming the Earth is flat, the other claiming the Earth is round, they are obviously not equally correct merely because the are proclaiming their beliefs from a hill.
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I think there’s a bit of a jump between the first part of your post and the second. Peoples’ opinion of things would be subjective. Earth round vs flat is objective. Objective truth is quantifiable and verifiable. Subjective truth isn’t. Arguments about Truth to me and truth to you can only be verified by an outside observer. You try to be this with your continuums. You try to say that you’re standing on a hill claiming the earth is round, while people on the other side of your continuum are standing on a hill saying the earth is flat. You’ve verified your own opinion as truth by assigning yourself the arbiter of truth.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I think there’s a bit of a jump between the first part of your post and the second. Peoples’ opinion of things would be subjective. Earth round vs flat is objective. Objective truth is quantifiable and verifiable. Subjective truth isn’t. Arguments about Truth to me and truth to you can only be verified by an outside observer. You try to be this with your continuums. You try to say that you’re standing on a hill claiming the earth is round, while people on the other side of your continuum are standing on a hill saying the earth is flat. You’ve verified your own opinion as truth by assigning yourself the arbiter of truth.
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I would think and hope that everyone has their own opinions and continuums.
I believe there is enough data on Trump to move from the completely subjective and into the objective.
Things are not either 100% subjective or a 100% objective. Even that is on a continuum.
I am way to the left on the political continuum while many on here are way to the right. That's just a fact. That is in no way me claiming that the earth is round while the other end is claiming the earth is flat.
 
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How are they interfering? By saying that bernia Is a socialist and he'll raise our taxes? Foreign gov have done this for years. Great example of people being suckered in by the fake media.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
The media is already preparing america for another round of Russian interference if trump wins. If a dem wins the russia interference will disappear quickly as smoke in a storm.
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Maybe the Dims themselves are getting tips from Russia on how to win an election.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The logic is broken.

I have 100% confidence that that they won't pick someone as horrible as Trump does not negate the statement that you will pick anyone with a chance to unseat Trump--unless you view yourself as all-knowing.
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He does.
 
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Why would it anger President Trump that the top U.S. intelligence official, Joseph Maguire, briefed the House Intelligence Committee on his findings? That is a part of his job after all. It seems like President Trump only wants a DNI who will report information that coincides with his desired narrative. Politics should play no role when it comes to the collection and reporting of national intelligence. However, when it comes to Trump, politics and his own best interest are always at the forefront. It's another example of how this man's self-absorption could prove to be detrimental to national security. If an intelligence official isn't supplying him and Congress with information that he wants to hear, then he will replace that official with someone who will, and completely dismiss the collected information as being politically partisan. Trump is a dangerously egocentric person.
 
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luthervol said:
I think your selective blindness is starting to wear on you.
You know exactly why the DNI was fired and Grenell appointed.
There is only room in the Trump circle for people who will do nothing other than protect Trump with 100% loyalty even at the expense of country, dignity, truth, and legality.
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Hils and Benghazi and Bummer say HI!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Why would it anger President Trump that the top U.S. intelligence official, Joseph Maguire, briefed the House Intelligence Committee on his findings? That is a part of his job after all. It seems like President Trump only wants a DNI who will report information that coincides with his desired narrative. Politics should play no role when it comes to the collection and reporting of national intelligence. However, when it comes to Trump, politics and his own best interest are always at the forefront. It's another example of how this man's self-absorption could prove to be detrimental to national security. If an intelligence official isn't supplying him and Congress with information that he wants to hear, then he will replace that official with someone who will, and completely dismiss the collected information as being politically partisan. Trump is a dangerously egocentric person.
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Seriously you have to ask?

It would piss me off and I would fire any employees who reported to my BOD behind my back.
 
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hog88 said:
Seriously you have to ask?

It would piss me off and I would fire any employees who reported to my BOD behind my back.
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This is not the Apprentice and they are not his employees. Trump is the Head of Human Resources but they are not his employees.
 
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hog88 said:
Seriously you have to ask?

It would piss me off and I would fire any employees who reported to my BOD behind my back.
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Behind his back? Seriously? This is the DNI reporting his intelligence findings to a Congressional Intelligence Committee... in other words, doing his job. Trump is not the CEO of a private company in this case.
 
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