Russia Already Interfering With 2020 Election: Seeks to Re-Elect Trump

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Weezer said:
Pissed off some of those who got eliminated because of those "antiquated" rules. Honestly, I think it's hilarious that the party that rails against the rich allowed him to buy his way in. Just shows the hypocrisy of politics.
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That's just an ignorant position. I guess I should say it's your opinion but not a fact.
 
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Weezer said:
Pissed off some of those who got eliminated because of those "antiquated" rules. Honestly, I think it's hilarious that the party that rails against the rich allowed him to buy his way in. Just shows the hypocrisy of politics.
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The antiquated rules were applicable to people publicly raising campaign funds.
You guys do understand that that was the issue.......right?
 
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luthervol said:
Not in the least. I said pretty much the exact opposite.
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No you didn't. You said it would be horrible if the left picked a person of bad character. You've also said you'll vote for whoever they pick. So they could pick the most horrendous despicable person ever, and you'll vote for him, simply because that's who was chosen by the Dems.
 
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luthervol said:
The difference will be, it will not be Trump.
Trump is a once in 300 year catastrophic anomaly.
A horrendously despicable human who poisons the mind and spirit of America.
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When you have Trump as the Apex of all things horrendous, everything is acceptable and justified eventually .. that’s some Hitler level propaganda if I’ve ever seen any . When you make someone , something , or a group out to be the absolute in anything , everything done to remove the obsession is permissible.
 
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Weezer said:
No you didn't. You said it would be horrible if the left picked a person of bad character. You've also said you'll vote for whoever they pick. So they could pick the most horrendous despicable person ever, and you'll vote for him, simply because that's who was chosen by the Dems.
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I've already previously stated that I have 100% confidence that everyone running on the dem side has far greater character than does Trump.....so it would be impossible for me to support the most horrendous despicable person ever.
I'll go further, and on record. If the dems pick a candidate that is anywhere near as horrendously despicable as is Trump, I will refuse to vote or vote 3rd party. I'll define anywhere near as within 20% of Trump on the horrendously despicable continuum.
 
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0nelilreb said:
When you have Trump as the Apex of all things horrendous, everything is acceptable and justified eventually .. that’s some Hitler level propaganda if I’ve ever seen any . When you make someone , something , or a group out to be the absolute in anything , everything done to remove the obsession is permissible.
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That's exactly why I have consistently maintained Trump should never be normalized. I'm willing to say we should never again stoop so low. Trump crosses a line which should have never been crossed. Trump represents a line that should never again be approached.
 
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luthervol said:
That's just an ignorant position. I guess I should say it's your opinion but not a fact.
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lmao How is it ignorant? Would he have been on that debate stage without his billions of dollars? We both know the answer to that. He bought his way in. And some of the other candidates called him on it last night. Especially Warren. And they did so while railing against the rich. Hell, Pete even said he was the only one on stage that wasn't a millionaire. So the rich people on stage railed against rich people, and Bloomberg got to participate after buying his way in. The hypocrisy was incredibly thick, and if you had bothered to watch the debate of the people you support, you'd have seen it. But why expose yourself to the character of whoever it is you're going to vote for, right? Character matters, but not really. The name on the ballot doesn't matter, just the D next to their name.
 
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luthervol said:
That's exactly why I have consistently maintained Trump should never be normalized. I'm willing to say we should never again stoop so low. Trump crosses a line which should have never been crossed. Trump represents a line that should never again be approached.
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You do realize that anyone at anytime could take that same stance with ( place subject here) and that would then give them the same hill to stand on as you are , regardless of any facts you post to the contrary right ? Just think if we all thought that about Obama , everything that happened after him then would be justified .
 
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Weezer said:
lmao How is it ignorant? Would he have been on that debate stage without his billions of dollars? We both know the answer to that. He bought his way in. And some of the other candidates called him on it last night. Especially Warren. And they did so while railing against the rich. Hell, Pete even said he was the only one on stage that wasn't a millionaire. So the rich people on stage railed against rich people, and Bloomberg got to participate after buying his way in. The hypocrisy was incredibly thick, and if you had bothered to watch the debate of the people you support, you'd have seen it. But why expose yourself to the character of whoever it is you're going to vote for, right? Character matters, but not really. The name on the ballot doesn't matter, just the D next to their name.
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Pete also said “ without a doubt “ he bought his way onto the stage .
 
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luthervol said:
I've already previously stated that I have 100% confidence that everyone running on the dem side has far greater character than does Trump.....so it would be impossible for me to support the most horrendous despicable person ever.
I'll go further, and on record. If the dems pick a candidate that is anywhere near as horrendously despicable as is Trump, I will refuse to vote or vote 3rd party. I'll define anywhere near as within 20% of Trump on the horrendously despicable continuum.
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You've also gone on record saying you basically no nothing about the candidates and avoided watching the debate that would have informed you. Add in that you've said you'll vote for whoever the nominee is. Not once have you showed concern about who that might be. Now you're admitting to operating on assumption. Why are you so scared to examine the character of the Dem nominees? Is it so you can perpetuate your belief that Trump is just the worst?
 
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luthervol said:
That's exactly why I have consistently maintained Trump should never be normalized. I'm willing to say we should never again stoop so low. Trump crosses a line which should have never been crossed. Trump represents a line that should never again be approached.
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Should socialism be normalized? Should falsely claiming a heritage not yours be normalized? Should anything about Bloomberg be normalized? Trump is just Trump. No one is "normalizing" him. No President is "normalized". They just are who they are. This "normalized" argument has always been absurd. I have no idea why you continuously pursue it.
 
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Orange defense said:
His name is Seth Rich. You better hope that this story of the DNC, crowd strike, and who killed him doesn’t come out because it’s going to be the end of someone. I promise you this, they won’t be able to kill no one again.
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Yeah, that’s not a real thing.
 
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luthervol said:
That is an even more depressingly sad commentary on the right.
But had one won, would the reaction have been anywhere near the same?
I'll answer for you. No, not even close. There is a message in that fact.
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Except the left spent years portraying Bush, Romney, McCain etc as sexist racist evil people. And would’ve done the same to any Republican presidential candidate. They just hate trump more because he calls them out for it and makes fun of them and they have no recourse
 
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volfanhill said:
I will choose tyrannical for $500 Alex
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That would be a sticking point without a concise meaning:
exercising power in a cruel or arbitrary way.

arbitrary- based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

But I can see where people that support Trump would not like that descriptor, because it's accurate and true.
 
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Weezer said:
Mick doesn't believe in actual conversation. He's pretty much admitting he's trolling for response.

IIRC, that's against VN rules, but rules in here seem to be pretty lax.
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Mick's schtick is to be a dick as often as possible and then play the victim when he perceives that you've insulted him, and cry about people being dicks. If there is too much truth in your posts, he tells the board that he's ignoring you (while occasionally responding to you) so that there is no expectation that he'll have to answer the truth you post.
 
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Weezer said:
I don't think he is. It would be nice if he were. Then maybe he could have a conversation without being a total douche bag.
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One easy marker of the easily propagandized is the unthinking repetition of stupid key words and talking points.

Nazi, Fuhrer, White Supremacist, Racist...

All at the top of the list. (I may just write a YARA rule for this board to automate the markers.)
 
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I'm taking bets on which poster will be the first to repost Russian disinformation.

My money is on Orange_Vol1321
 
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luthervol said:
I want the one most likely to beat Trump.....period.
The repubs. claim that for their party, Trump was the one most likely to beat Hillary. What does that say about the rep. party?
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It says that you are what you've been bitching at people about for three years. You and your pesky self-loathing.
 
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Weezer said:
So you're perfectly okay with the most "horrible despicable President ever" as long as they're a Democrat. I've said as much all along. It's not about character, it's about politics. Not sure why you kept denying it.
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This. It's been clear for years. Just take the mask off.
 
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