Russia bounty on US troops

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carlos86 said:
“American officials intercepted electronic data showing large financial transfers from a bank account controlled by Russia’s military intelligence agency to a Taliban-linked account, which was among the evidence that supported their conclusion that Russia covertly offered bounties for killing U.S. and coalition troops in Afghanistan, according to three officials familiar with the intelligence.”

“The intercepts bolstered the findings gleaned from the interrogations, helping reduce an earlier disagreement among intelligence analysts and agencies over the reliability of the detainees. The disclosures further undercut White House officials’ claim that the intelligence was too uncertain to brief President Trump. In fact, the information was provided to him in his daily written brief in late February, two officials have said.”
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*If the reports regarding these intercepts are true* ... then there definitely appears to be more corroborating evidence than the White House and Trump's National Security Adviser, Robert O'Brien, had initially led the public to believe concerning Russian payments to the Taliban. It's becoming clear, that no amount of evidence in support of Russian bounties being paid, would have ever been sufficient to prompt President Donald Trump into taking any action against Vladimir Putin and Russia. For whatever reason, Trump just doesn't want to cross Putin. It is beginning to look like fear.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
LOL.....there's a couple of Inspectors General who have been dismissed lately that say differently
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Over half those were acting and replaced by permanent nominees, and none of them lost their jobs, they just do something else now. Your avatar says USAF...remember when people "got fired" in the Air Force? Its the same thing for these IG's. Now when I said I fired 3 people, I actually fired 3 people.

edit..People I fired had multiple code of conduct infractions..drugs like cocaine and non-prescribed oxy, and the other two were sleeping on the job and harassment. Without going into too much detail..one dude dared me to analyze his work performance. Thats what got HR to say "fire him". LOL.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
*If the reports regarding these intercepts are true* ... then there definitely appears to be more corroborating evidence than the White House and Trump's National Security Adviser, Robert O'Brien, had initially led the public to believe concerning Russian payments to the Taliban. It's becoming clear, that no amount of evidence in support of Russian bounties being paid, would have ever been sufficient to prompt President Donald Trump into taking any action against Vladimir Putin and Russia. For whatever reason, Trump just doesn't want to cross Putin. It is beginning to look like fear.
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Yeah. I'm sure Trump was quaking in his boots after a handful of our guys wiped out 300 Russians in Syria. Remember the apologies from Trump and the concessions he gave Russia?

Oh. What? You don't?? Neither does anyone else because it never happened.
 
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evillawyer said:
I see your one hair touch and raise you a partying with a known pedophile.



Oh, and there's this:

Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows - CNN Video

Sure you wanna go down this road?
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Sure. No one knew he was a pedophile then. He was a rich dude in high society. But know what happened when word got out he might be up to some Biden like kid touching? Everyone cut ties with him, even Bill Clinton.

Biden on the other hand, has basically been admitting and showing it for years.

Hell, Biden even starts with luring kids to his side....
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
*If the reports regarding these intercepts are true* ... then there definitely appears to be more corroborating evidence than the White House and Trump's National Security Adviser, Robert O'Brien, had initially led the public to believe concerning Russian payments to the Taliban. It's becoming clear, that no amount of evidence in support of Russian bounties being paid, would have ever been sufficient to prompt President Donald Trump into taking any action against Vladimir Putin and Russia. For whatever reason, Trump just doesn't want to cross Putin. It is beginning to look like fear.
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The issue never was about corroborating evidence. It was more about a pissing match between CIA and NSA. It was "Show me the intercepts" vs "We have sources who are reliable who confirm." The CIA Put the money, signal intercepts interrogations, data and timing together and came away "high confidence" that the Russians were paying bounties. NSA had "moderate confidence." The issue of so called corraborating evidence seems to be a political issue. This was a policy failure not a intelligence failure.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Yeah. I'm sure Trump was quaking in his boots after a handful of our guys wiped out 300 Russians in Syria. Remember the apologies from Trump and the concessions he gave Russia?

Oh. What? You don't?? Neither does anyone else because it never happened.
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I remember that President Donald Trump ordered a withdrawal of U.S. troops from northern Syria last October, in order to avoid a conflict between Turkey and formerly US-backed Kurdish fighters. Basically, Donald Trump abandoned the Kurds, because that is exactly what Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan wanted him to do. Donald Trump is nothing more than Putin's puppet. He openly belittles and fights with the leaders of our allies (although, mostly just whenever they are women, such as Merkel and May) and kowtows to the needs and desires of our enemies. Trump is the embodiment of a weak and feckless leader. Trump is the ultimate fake tough guy. Trump's empty rhetoric aside, he is and he will always be, "Cadet Bone Spurs" at heart... Trump is a morally bankrupt and pathetic coward.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I remember that President Donald Trump ordered a withdrawal of U.S. troops from northern Syria last October, in order to avoid a conflict between Turkey and formerly US-backed Kurdish fighters. Basically, Donald Trump abandoned the Kurds, because that is exactly what Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan wanted him to do. Donald Trump is nothing more than Putin's puppet. He openly belittles and fights with the leaders of our allies (although, mostly just whenever they are women, such as Merkel and May) and kowtows to the needs and desires of our enemies. Trump is the embodiment of a weak and feckless leader. Trump is the ultimate fake tough guy. Trump's empty rhetoric aside, he is and he will always be, "Cadet Bone Spurs" at heart... Trump is a morally bankrupt and pathetic coward.
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Ah look at you, a freshly hatched war hawk! Trump getting our guys out of Syria where Obama got us was 100% a victory for America. I can only assume that your hatred for my country clouds your judgement on that.

I also find the fascination with bone spurs interesting. What branch and war did you serve in?
 
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carlos86 said:
The issue never was about corroborating evidence. It was more about a pissing match between CIA and NSA. It was "Show me the intercepts" vs "We have sources who are reliable who confirm." The CIA Put the money, signal intercepts interrogations, data and timing together and came away "high confidence" that the Russians were paying bounties. NSA had "moderate confidence." The issue of so called corraborating evidence seems to be a political issue. This was a policy failure not a intelligence failure.
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National Security Adviser, Robert O'Brien, seemed to be making an issue of corroborating evidence in his statement released yesterday, when he said: "Because the allegations in recent press articles have not been verified or substantiated by the Intelligence Community, President Trump had not been briefed on the items..." That is what I was referring to. O'Brien was obviously downplaying the significance of the intelligence which has been collected. He probably did this in order to explain/excuse why Trump (supposedly) wasn't briefed on this intelligence, and also, why no action has been taken to this point against Russia.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Ah look at you, a freshly hatched war hawk! Trump getting our guys out of Syria where Obama got us was 100% a victory for America. I can only assume that your hatred for my country clouds your judgement on that.

I also find the fascination with bone spurs interesting. What branch and war did you serve in?
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Trump abandoned an ally in the Kurds... because Putin and Erdogan told him to. It was weak and gutless... Trump is a coward.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I agree with him about Trump and so do a majority of retired military personnel. Especially officers
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So you think Biden is a coward as well right?

And no, a majority of retired military personnel don't think that about Trump. Thats laughable.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't serve in the United States Armed Forces. I also didn't dodge a military draft, by taking a medical deferment over bone spurs, as Donald Trump did.
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And Biden. So you're a coward as well?


(fyi, I don't think you or anyone is a coward for not serving. War isn't fun).
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
So you think Biden is a coward as well right?

And no, a majority of retired military personnel don't think that about Trump. Thats laughable.
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Yes, they do think that about Trump. Almost all that I know think he is a joke. We've never had so much brass speak out against a sitting President as we've had these past 3 years.

I don't know about Biden yet but I do know about Trump. Were you enlisted, NCO or commissioned
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Yes, they do think that about Trump. Almost all that I know think he is a joke. We've never had so much brass speak out against a sitting President as we've had these past 3 years.

I don't know about Biden yet but I do know about Trump
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You dont know about Biden yet? He is a draft dodger as well. Developed asthma after playing college football.

I'm sure the ones you know think that. They are what we in the USAF called "noners". They are the ones that on 9/12, 2001 were screaming they were gay or conscientious objectors. It was so weird to me that every airman doing that just so happened to openly talk about hating Bush....Those were the real cowards.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't serve in the United States Armed Forces. I also didn't dodge a military draft, by taking a medical deferment over bone spurs, as Donald Trump did.
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I don't think that not serving in the military makes someone a coward, but saying that one man is a coward for dodging the draft when the man you support did the same thing, does make you a-lot-a-bit of a hypocrite.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
I don't think that not serving in the military makes someone a coward, but saying that one man is a coward for dodging the draft when the man you support did the same thing, does make you a-lot-a-bit of a hypocrite.
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After being in combat myself I 100% get why people didn't want to be forced to go to Nam. I doubled down on that after hearing my Father talk about his 2 years in Nam. It was almost like they had the Air Force running the ops.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
You dont know about Biden yet? He is a draft dodger as well. Developed asthma after playing college football.

I'm sure the ones you know think that. They are what we in the USAF called "noners". They are the ones that on 9/12, 2001 were screaming they were gay or conscientious objectors. It was so weird to me that every airman doing that just so happened to openly talk about hating Bush....Those were the real cowards.
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That wouldn't apply to me, but thanks for showing your ignorance and stupidity. I served in the Middle East post 9/11
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
That wouldn't apply to me, but thanks for showing your ignorance and stupidity. I served in the Middle East post 9/11
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I didn't say it applied to you homeslice. Relax. Lots of people have served in the middle east post 9/11. One of my friends did 6 months in Diego Garcia. She complained it was the worst duty ever..I can only imagine the horror.
 
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