Sarkisian comment pertinent to UT football

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DeepSpringsVol said:
Why would Mora Jr. leave UCLA? Great location similar calibur school as Washington and same conference.
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His love for Washington and the Pacific NW is well documented. Plus, he'll eventually get tired of being second fiddle in LA at a school with old facilities.
 
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GAVol said:
His love for Washington and the Pacific NW is well documented. Plus, he'll eventually get tired of being second fiddle in LA at a school with old facilities.
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We are about to find out if UCLA is serious about football...
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Hopefully franklin.
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I was thinking about this actually, with USC (before the hired Sark). Do we want Franklin to get hired away? Sure, I know he's a smug SoB, a sniveling little $&*t; I don't like him either. But, if he gets promoted, he'll bask in the glow of splitting the difference with the mighty UT the last 4yrs and getting a new better job. I kind of want to see us restock, and start beating Vandy again. It will happen. Then, after a few mediocre seasons where despite running a pretty good program (for Vandy), he gets canned. I'd rather get him fired than help him get a new job.
 
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TGVol said:
We did not need a new offensive system. Changing system and coordinators that were doing just fine is all on Butch (it was his decision so he bears full responsibility for results and gets all the criticism that comes with that decision).
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So the new Head Coach should not run the offensive schemes and defensive schemes that have made him successful and got him the job here? So were you praying Cheney was gonna be hired as HC or something? New HC's run what got them the job....not what got the last HC fired. Can't believe I have to explain that to you.

Of course I have responded to your ignorance before so I do believe it. You...WYLO....oregonvol....want the unattainable today and hate anything and everything that doesn't give it to you this second....life ain't fair and neither is football...you have to work, implement, and build to get what you want....must be a democrat cuz that would explain your mindset.
 
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A name you may hear mentioned for Washington but it's highly unlikely is Gary Pinkel at Mizzou. He dearly loved legendary Huskies coach Don James and was on his staff there when they won the National Title. He talks about his time with James at Washington all of the time in his press conferences. I think it's too late as Pinkel has established his own program and status at Mizzou. I am not saying he will leave, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear his name mentioned, especially since James recently passed away.
 
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Fullfillmer said:
I think Saban's record was very average his first year at Bama. What did that record say about him?
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1. Saban's record said he was a NC winning coach (LSU) worth waiting for.

2. Our coaching staff on the other hand are former big-east b-cats - perhaps best b-cat staff in America, but b-cats nevertheless :cray:
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Good call op. I feel that winning will be expected sooner rather than later for Butch because he is recruiting at such a high level. Sark recruited ok for the huskies but nothing like what CBJ is currently doing.
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Most definitely. Hard to recruit elite players to UW. One might say Oregon proves that shouldn't be true, you can get elite players to the NW. But, really, as Oregon fans point out when we played them, they've been a program on the steady ascension since the early 2000's who then became a dynamo. Sark took over a 0-12 team. Now, I'm not saying Sarkisian will be a savior. The focus of my post was on his comment and it's transferability to what we need to keep in perspective.

When we have more depth, we won't see the team so spent at the end of the year, and appearing as if they are regressing. Miracle (and credit to Lawson) that we kept many guys healthy playing that many snaps/game.
 
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TGVol said:
We did not need a new offensive system. Changing system and coordinators that were doing just fine is all on Butch (it was his decision so he bears full responsibility for results and gets all the criticism that comes with that decision).
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Yeah . . . Running 4 and 5 wides all the time and throwing it 40 times a game would've probably worked great with this years personnel.
 
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GAVol said:
Yeah . . . Running 4 and 5 wides all the time and throwing it 40 times a game would've probably worked great with this years personnel.
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Can you imagine this years run game which improved drastically with CP and JH on the outside as deep threats? Butch Jones would have looked like a genius this year if they would have stayed.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
So the new Head Coach should not run the offensive schemes and defensive schemes that have made him successful and got him the job here? So were you praying Cheney was gonna be hired as HC or something? New HC's run what got them the job....not what got the last HC fired. Can't believe I have to explain that to you.
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Couch should be honest with himself, evaluate the situation he finds for what it is, and realize that stuff that may have worked in inferior conferences is not going to fly in SEC. Even when at Cincy they had a game (I think last year), where they scored 3 points vs Rutgers at home - that is the definition of offense we should NEVER want to see here (although we already saw glimpses of it vs Mizzou). The sad fact is that we had a great offensive staff here and Butch should have kept it (our o-line would not have regressed in that case either).
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Can you imagine this years run game which improved drastically with CP and JH on the outside as deep threats? Butch Jones would have looked like a genius this year if they would have stayed.
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To increase chances of them staying he should have kept Chaney and rest of offense staff which did perfectly fine job last year.
 
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TGVol said:
Couch should be honest with himself, evaluate the situation he finds for what it is, and realize that stuff that may have worked in inferior conferences is not going to fly in SEC. Even when at Cincy they had a game (I think last year), where they scored 3 points vs Rutgers at home - that is the definition of offense we should NEVER want to see here (although we already saw glimpses of it vs Mizzou). The sad fact is that we had a great offensive staff here and Butch should have kept it (our o-line would not have regressed in that case either).
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Urban Meyer, Gary Pinkel, and Gus Malzahn say your opinion smells just like....well there are 3 NC's won in the SEC with this type of system....which beat #1 Bama Saturday...and will face each other for the SEC Title Saturday. This system can be nasty with elite level talent...or the right players to fit it...ex. Muzzu or Oregon.
 
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TGVol said:
Couch should be honest with himself, evaluate the situation he finds for what it is, and realize that stuff that may have worked in inferior conferences is not going to fly in SEC. Even when at Cincy they had a game (I think last year), where they scored 3 points vs Rutgers at home - that is the definition of offense we should NEVER want to see here (although we already saw glimpses of it vs Mizzou). The sad fact is that we had a great offensive staff here and Butch should have kept it (our o-line would not have regressed in that case either).
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Yards per carry are up and sacks allowed are down so statically the o-line is better this year than last.
 
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TGVol said:
To increase chances of them staying he should have kept Chaney and rest of offense staff which did perfectly fine job last year.
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CP was never more than a one and done and after his injury there was no wat JH was coming back. It would not have mattered if we had hired Gruden theywere not coming back.
 
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TGVol said:
Couch should be honest with himself, evaluate the situation he finds for what it is, and realize that stuff that may have worked in inferior conferences is not going to fly in SEC. Even when at Cincy they had a game (I think last year), where they scored 3 points vs Rutgers at home - that is the definition of offense we should NEVER want to see here (although we already saw glimpses of it vs Mizzou). The sad fact is that we had a great offensive staff here and Butch should have kept it (our o-line would not have regressed in that case either).
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I'm not saying you aren't going to be right about Mike B. and CBJ offensive scheme, but this scheme desperately needs a TE, an accurate QB, and some WRs who are experienced and great route runners. They need at least one more year to prove what they got under their sleeves, but I am disappointed in the lack of production in short yardage situations and in the redzone. I definitely think some more power style formations will need to be implemented for us to have consistent success in the SEC in the redzone and short yardage situations, but I also understand we just don't have a great amount of talent at QB, TE, and WR right now. As long as we can consistently move the chains on short yardage situations I'm fine with the read option and speed offense. I also hope CBJ continues to recruit big, strong OT like we have had here the last 3-4 years, along with quicker, more athletic guards and centers, which we haven't had here in a very long time. I think that will help us a lot down the road no matter if by then we are running pro style or spread offense.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Urban Meyer, Gary Pinkel, and Gus Malzahn say your opinion smells just like....well there are 3 NC's won in the SEC with this type of system....which beat #1 Bama Saturday...and will face each other for the SEC Title Saturday. This system can be nasty with elite level talent...or the right players to fit it...ex. Muzzu or Oregon.
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CBJ system is not at all similar to any of those coaches you mention. Unsurprisingly he is overall most similar to Kelly who got embarrassed when he faced Saban last year (and that was the offense he recruited over few years so he had the type of talent he wanted).
 
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