Sarkisian comment pertinent to UT football

#76
#76
EZE said:
Is any fan base ever behind a hire anymore unless it is a 5-time BCS Champion and 5-time Super Bowl Champion coach?
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lol we were behind Jon Gruden and he isn't proven anything is college ..won with Tony Dungy's Players and went downhill from there on ..
LOL ..I understand your point though..
 
#77
#77
sjt18 said:
And it is as it should be.

As for the comparison to UT's situation... it went from bad to worse on the field. You can blame on talent, you can blame on coaching, you can acknowledge it was some of both... but historic lows were set this year. This team was not better than last year in many ways and was worse than the two previous years in most ways.
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Nope...neither of the last two teams would have come close to being Georgia or South Carolina. Ridiculous schedule plus losing 3 qbs to injury are to blame for us not being in a bowl game.
 
#80
#80
Orange to the Bay said:
I was thinking about this actually, with USC (before the hired Sark). Do we want Franklin to get hired away? Sure, I know he's a smug SoB, a sniveling little $&*t; I don't like him either. But, if he gets promoted, he'll bask in the glow of splitting the difference with the mighty UT the last 4yrs and getting a new better job. I kind of want to see us restock, and start beating Vandy again. It will happen. Then, after a few mediocre seasons where despite running a pretty good program (for Vandy), he gets canned. I'd rather get him fired than help him get a new job.
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Vandy's fixing to drop like a rock - with or without Franklin. I hope and pray that he stays. It would be better for him to get while the getting is good. He will never repeat his last 3 years, so if he is smart he need to jump or in the case of Vandy abandon ship.
 
#82
#82
Fullfillmer said:
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that there was a recruit or two of Dooley's there.
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Congrats! You just figured that a few players from previous coach may still be playing for the new coach in his first year? :loco: (that explains a lot about your posts).
By the way, tell me how much are you enjoying watching Dooley's boys CP and Hunter tearing it up on Sundays?
It would really suck to still have them with us at UT, wouldn't it - cause all Dooley's recruits must suck or otherwise Butch does not get it? :eek:lol:
 
#84
#84
Players play, Coaches coach, Administrators administrate, and contrary to popular Vol fan belief, Fans support the team.

Coaches are apart of the team. No one on this fan site has any control over the hire or fire or the success or failure of the coaching staff.

So my suggestion to everyone is either get behind the team and support them (because it is the only thing of any value you can add) or go find another team to ***** about. PLEASE!
 
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#85
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Slingshot said:
So my suggestion to everyone is either get behind the team and support them (because it is the only thing of any value you can add) or go find another team to ***** about. PLEASE!
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Did you support all former coaches and agree with all of their decision?
How about Dooley - you supported him until the day he was fired?
 
#86
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TGVol said:
Congrats! You just figured that a few players from previous coach may still be playing for the new coach in his first year? :loco: (that explains a lot about your posts).
By the way, tell me how much are you enjoying watching Dooley's boys CP and Hunter tearing it up on Sundays?
It would really suck to still have them with us at UT, wouldn't it - cause all Dooley's recruits must suck or otherwise Butch does not get it? :eek:lol:
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You really are not make a compelling case for anything - The fact that the three best recruits of Dooley's left early - further depleting our offense and our team - only makes the case stronger that the cupboard was bare when Coach Jones and his staff arrived. Last I checked - Coach Jones and his staff's recruits were winning 9 games at Cincinnati this year. No matter how much you wine and complain Coach Butch Jones and staff will have this thing completely turned around in two years. I believe it and about 33 or 34 recruits believe it.
 
#88
#88
Orange_Vol1321 said:
You cant tell it by the USC forums, complete nuclear meltdown right now!
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I saw one thread where they suggested that when Jim Mora gets hired by Washington (he probably won't be) they sack Sarkisian and hire Orgeron, all to screw over UCLA. Hilarious.
 
#90
#90
TGVol said:
Did you support all former coaches and agree with all of their decision?
How about Dooley - you supported him until the day he was fired?
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I dont always agree with my wife. But i still support her and want her to be successful in life.

I dont always agree with my childrens decisions. But I still support them and want them to be successful.

I did not always agree with all the former coaches. But while they were Tennessee Vols I supported them and wanted them to be successful.

If I had anything to say as a fan it was constructive not destructive.

I just get tired of reading posts from people who call themselves fans but have nothing to say that adds any value whatsoever. They are always tearing down people over things that they have no experience doing themselves or know anything about.
 
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jistevens said:
This ^ = Delusional.
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I gotta agree with him... your telling me that the ones that left weren't better than the ones that started this year? If you don't think bray, hunter, cp, weren't better than what we have now, the you are delusional. . We just needed better coaches when they were here..
 
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#92
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Orange to the Bay said:
"We're a better team today that we were a year ago, and a year ago we were a better team than a year before that," Sarkisian said. "Sometimes games go the way they go and you don't get the call or you don't get the catch or you make the one bad call as a coach. But that doesn't mean you're not a good football team or you aren't a better team than you were a year before."

This year was brutal at times, but we were a couple plays, a drive or two away from 7-5. The above may serve as a gentle reminder from a man who knows more about football than I guarantee 100% of fine Tennesseans on this board, including myself, as to the realities of W-L record vs. team improvement and competitiveness.

Washington gave him 5yrs, 4 of which were winning. All coming while he tried to build the program at a time that coincided with programmatic improvements across the Pac10 (ie, a harder schedule as the time of his tenure went on). So, considering the schedule Butch was up against this year combined with our depth...man, let's just start to fill the well a bit, and go get some elite recruits!
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Dooley was good at making excuses. And many, like yourself bought into the Bamboo talk...the Rommel (on D-Day) rumblings. Admit it...you drank the Dool-Aid. :crazy:

Nevertheless, I'm cautiously optimistic about the future, because of this recruiting class. They will have the firepower to step up another level, if not a dramatic reversal of fortunes like Mizzou and Auburn.

I'll say another thing, too...it's probably just as important for CBJ to try and recruit Tiny and AJ to come back for their senior season, as it is to try and close out this class with a bang.
 
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#94
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Slingshot said:
I did not always agree with all the former coaches. But while they were Tennessee Vols I supported them and wanted them to be successful.

If I had anything to say as a fan it was constructive not destructive.
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I want CBJ to be successful. Just don't think he will be with this staff (would like to be proven wrong but don't want to sit quietly for 4 years and keep chanting that Butch gets it if there is no evidence of progress - and there has not been any on the field this year - we regressed from last year).
 
#95
#95
Orange to the Bay said:
"We're a better team today that we were a year ago, and a year ago we were a better team than a year before that," Sarkisian said. "Sometimes games go the way they go and you don't get the call or you don't get the catch or you make the one bad call as a coach. But that doesn't mean you're not a good football team or you aren't a better team than you were a year before."

This year was brutal at times, but we were a couple plays, a drive or two away from 7-5. The above may serve as a gentle reminder from a man who knows more about football than I guarantee 100% of fine Tennesseans on this board, including myself, as to the realities of W-L record vs. team improvement and competitiveness.

Washington gave him 5yrs, 4 of which were winning. All coming while he tried to build the program at a time that coincided with programmatic improvements across the Pac10 (ie, a harder schedule as the time of his tenure went on). So, considering the schedule Butch was up against this year combined with our depth...man, let's just start to fill the well a bit, and go get some elite recruits!
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*Sigh* This arguement again. For every "we were only a play or two away from a better record" there is also a "we were only a play or two away from a worse record" scenario. Some want to call that negativity, but the truth is, it's reality. The season is over. Now we move on.
 
#97
#97
EZE said:
Is any fan base ever behind a hire anymore unless it is a 5-time BCS Champion and 5-time Super Bowl Champion coach?
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Yes everyone on this board minus me wants Gruden who won 1 super bowl with Dungy's team and team went progressively downhill til he was fired.
 
#98
#98
TGVol said:
Dorothy, we are not in Cincinnati anymore.
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You're exactly right, cowardly lion. He's in the SEC and bringing in big time SEC recruits. You've got to give any coach enough time to get his guys in to see what's going to happen. The next class will give us an even better indicator of our program's direction. Butch's record says he's a winner, and stipulating that with the fact that they weren't in the SEC is asinine. By this reasoning Saban is a fair big 10 coach... Everybody starts somewhere, and very rarely is that first head coaching job the SEC.
 
#99
#99
Orange to the Bay said:
"We're a better team today that we were a year ago, and a year ago we were a better team than a year before that," Sarkisian said. "Sometimes games go the way they go and you don't get the call or you don't get the catch or you make the one bad call as a coach. But that doesn't mean you're not a good football team or you aren't a better team than you were a year before."

This year was brutal at times, but we were a couple plays, a drive or two away from 7-5. The above may serve as a gentle reminder from a man who knows more about football than I guarantee 100% of fine Tennesseans on this board, including myself, as to the realities of W-L record vs. team improvement and competitiveness.

Washington gave him 5yrs, 4 of which were winning. All coming while he tried to build the program at a time that coincided with programmatic improvements across the Pac10 (ie, a harder schedule as the time of his tenure went on). So, considering the schedule Butch was up against this year combined with our depth...man, let's just start to fill the well a bit, and go get some elite recruits!
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I wonder if that was something that Pete Carroll said a lot. I know that Kiffin said that when he left Tennessee, and I'm pretty sure that Orgeron said it a few times on his way out the door at Ole Miss.
 
#100
#100
Wolfeman_Vol said:
Everybody starts somewhere, and very rarely is that first head coaching job the SEC.
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He does have one year in SEC, doesn't he :crazy:? And the record is 5-7. Dooley did better than that his first year and actually made a bowl game (under more difficult conditions given we were under investigation). The difference was that Dooley brought in better staff.
 
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