Say it Ain't So! Willie Martinez Not Returning?

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I made a thread on this and was told tgat Heupel hasn’t worked with Raymond and has no ties to him. So therefore he won’t hire him.
 
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Ed
edog5573 said:
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JJ McClesky

J.J MCCLESKEY​

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PROFILE
Hometown: Knoxville, Tennessee
Wife: Susan
Children: Jalen and Justin

EDUCATION
Bachelor’s – Tennessee, 1992

PLAYING EXPERIENCE
1990-1993, Tennessee – Football
1993-96, New Orleans Saints
1996-2000, Arizona Cardinals

COACHING EXPERIENCE
2018-present, Tulane

POSTSEASON EXPERIENCE (3)
2023 Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
2020 Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
2018 AutoNation Cure Bowl

J.J. McCleskey made an immediate impact in his first four seasons as the Green Wave’s cornerbacks coach, as he helped establish Tulane’s secondary as one of the best in the American Athletic Conference.
This past season under McCleskey’s leadership, the secondary unit finished the season ranked second in the AAC in interceptions. Defensive back Jarius Monroe led the team in interceptions, including one in the 2023 Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.
During the 2021 season, McCleskey’s secondary unit played a pivotal role in helping the Green Wave defense rank among the league’s Top 5 in scoring defense, interceptions and redzone defense.
Tulane’s 2020 secondary unit led The American (tied for 14th overall) in passes broken up with 42. In addition, the Green Wave’s 51 passes defended ranked second in the AAC and tied for 19th in the nation, while their nine interceptions ranked 35th nationally.
In 2019, the Green Wave’s secondary snagged 12 interceptions, which ranked tied for third in The American and 31st nationally. Four of the Green Wave’s 12 interceptions came from Larry Brooks. He led the team and ranked second in the conference and 23rd in the nation.
Thakarius Keyes was named Third Team All-AAC by Phil Steele Magazine and honorable mention by The America under McCleskey’s tutelage. Keyes was drafted in the seventh round of the 2020 NFL draft by the Kansas City Chiefs.
In 2018, Tulane’s secondary intercepted 12 passes, which ranked fourth in The American and 40th nationally. Three of the Green Wave’s 12 interceptions came from the hands of Donnie Lewis Jr.
Lewis’ three interceptions led the team and were tied for sixth-best in The American, while his 1.6 passes defended ranked fourth nationally and led the league. Following the year, Lewis earned Second Team All-AAC honors.
In April of 2019, Lewis was selected in the seventh round of the NFL Draft.
McCleskey also played a major role in enhancing the Green Wave’s recruiting efforts. After he joined the Tulane football program as an assistant coach in January 2018 he helped the Green Wave secure their best recruiting class since 2004 (247Sports.com).
McCleskey played eight years in the NFL with the New Orleans Saints and the Arizona Cardinals from 1993-00. A versatile athlete, he spent time on offense, defense and special teams in both college and professional football. Most recently, McCleskey trained and mentored athletes on and off the field through Mental Edge Sports, which he founded in 2012.
McCleskey joined the Saints in 1994 as an undrafted free agent, and played wide receiver his first season before moving to defensive back. In his career, he totaled 44 tackles, four interceptions and two fumble recoveries, contributing on defense and special teams.
A native of Knoxville, Tennessee, McCleskey attended the University of Tennessee as a walk-on athlete and was eventually elected a team captain by his teammates as a senior. He played cornerback, safety and receiver, helping lead the Volunteers to SEC Championships in 1989 and 1990 and four bowl appearances including the Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl. He holds the distinction as being the first ever Tennessee football walk-on to be named a team captain.
A resident of Louisiana for 25 years, McCleskey founded ME Sports to train and support athletes. He coached and mentored more than 70 athletes that have moved on to play at the collegiate level. He also served as head coach of the Louisiana Bootleggers 7-on-7 squad from 2015-17. He led the Bootleggers to a second-place finish at the 7-on-7 national championship in 2015 and was a part of the program’s 2014 national championship.
In 2017, McCleskey was elected into the Greater Knoxville Sports Hall of Fame.
McCleskey received his bachelor’s degree political science from Tennessee in 1992. His wife, Susan, received her MBA from the Tulane A.B. Freeman School of Business in 1993. McCleskey and his wife have two sons – Jalen and Justin.

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yeah….no one is reading all of that
 

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sjt18 said:
Why? Martinez coaches DBs. He teaches technique. I'm not claiming he cannot have impact. I will say that you cannot afford to have a DB coach who isn't a really good recruiter which could be part of it. But firing a DB coach when your DC so routinely gets outcoached looks like scapegoating.
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Heupel isn’t firing Banks for sure so it doesn’t matter.
 
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FollowTheLeader said:
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. Florida fired Raymond because his position group didn't show enough improvement or development of players. So we fire Martinez and then hire someone that was fired. Ok....that is literally the most ignorant thing I've seen on this board and it's some ignorant crap posted daily.

There's just no hope for some of this fanbase.....😔
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Sounds like what they do with NFL coaches lol
 
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I’m not flaming on the OP but im calling total BS on this article. No way Kirby is flirting with another position coach during the stretch run of a possible 3 Peat. Maybe he’s looking at hiring Raymond as analyst. But he’s not hiring him for an on field position and Raymond will have plenty of options. Unless he’s planning on signing a month contract with UGA to go for a ring and then going for a full time gig in January.
 
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FollowTheLeader said:
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. Florida fired Raymond because his position group didn't show enough improvement or development of players. So we fire Martinez and then hire someone that was fired. Ok....that is literally the most ignorant thing I've seen on this board and it's some ignorant crap posted daily.

There's just no hope for some of this fanbase.....😔
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He is a better recruiter and coach than Martinez.
 
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edog5573 said:
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JJ McClesky

J.J MCCLESKEY​

​
PROFILE
Hometown: Knoxville, Tennessee
Wife: Susan
Children: Jalen and Justin

EDUCATION
Bachelor’s – Tennessee, 1992

PLAYING EXPERIENCE
1990-1993, Tennessee – Football
1993-96, New Orleans Saints
1996-2000, Arizona Cardinals

COACHING EXPERIENCE
2018-present, Tulane

POSTSEASON EXPERIENCE (3)
2023 Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
2020 Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
2018 AutoNation Cure Bowl

J.J. McCleskey made an immediate impact in his first four seasons as the Green Wave’s cornerbacks coach, as he helped establish Tulane’s secondary as one of the best in the American Athletic Conference.
This past season under McCleskey’s leadership, the secondary unit finished the season ranked second in the AAC in interceptions. Defensive back Jarius Monroe led the team in interceptions, including one in the 2023 Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.
During the 2021 season, McCleskey’s secondary unit played a pivotal role in helping the Green Wave defense rank among the league’s Top 5 in scoring defense, interceptions and redzone defense.
Tulane’s 2020 secondary unit led The American (tied for 14th overall) in passes broken up with 42. In addition, the Green Wave’s 51 passes defended ranked second in the AAC and tied for 19th in the nation, while their nine interceptions ranked 35th nationally.
In 2019, the Green Wave’s secondary snagged 12 interceptions, which ranked tied for third in The American and 31st nationally. Four of the Green Wave’s 12 interceptions came from Larry Brooks. He led the team and ranked second in the conference and 23rd in the nation.
Thakarius Keyes was named Third Team All-AAC by Phil Steele Magazine and honorable mention by The America under McCleskey’s tutelage. Keyes was drafted in the seventh round of the 2020 NFL draft by the Kansas City Chiefs.
In 2018, Tulane’s secondary intercepted 12 passes, which ranked fourth in The American and 40th nationally. Three of the Green Wave’s 12 interceptions came from the hands of Donnie Lewis Jr.
Lewis’ three interceptions led the team and were tied for sixth-best in The American, while his 1.6 passes defended ranked fourth nationally and led the league. Following the year, Lewis earned Second Team All-AAC honors.
In April of 2019, Lewis was selected in the seventh round of the NFL Draft.
McCleskey also played a major role in enhancing the Green Wave’s recruiting efforts. After he joined the Tulane football program as an assistant coach in January 2018 he helped the Green Wave secure their best recruiting class since 2004 (247Sports.com).
McCleskey played eight years in the NFL with the New Orleans Saints and the Arizona Cardinals from 1993-00. A versatile athlete, he spent time on offense, defense and special teams in both college and professional football. Most recently, McCleskey trained and mentored athletes on and off the field through Mental Edge Sports, which he founded in 2012.
McCleskey joined the Saints in 1994 as an undrafted free agent, and played wide receiver his first season before moving to defensive back. In his career, he totaled 44 tackles, four interceptions and two fumble recoveries, contributing on defense and special teams.
A native of Knoxville, Tennessee, McCleskey attended the University of Tennessee as a walk-on athlete and was eventually elected a team captain by his teammates as a senior. He played cornerback, safety and receiver, helping lead the Volunteers to SEC Championships in 1989 and 1990 and four bowl appearances including the Cotton Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl. He holds the distinction as being the first ever Tennessee football walk-on to be named a team captain.
A resident of Louisiana for 25 years, McCleskey founded ME Sports to train and support athletes. He coached and mentored more than 70 athletes that have moved on to play at the collegiate level. He also served as head coach of the Louisiana Bootleggers 7-on-7 squad from 2015-17. He led the Bootleggers to a second-place finish at the 7-on-7 national championship in 2015 and was a part of the program’s 2014 national championship.
In 2017, McCleskey was elected into the Greater Knoxville Sports Hall of Fame.
McCleskey received his bachelor’s degree political science from Tennessee in 1992. His wife, Susan, received her MBA from the Tulane A.B. Freeman School of Business in 1993. McCleskey and his wife have two sons – Jalen and Justin.

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I read it LOL. First VOL ever to go from walk on to Team Captain. Get down, JJ
 
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utvols74 said:
If the DBs can just turn their heads around and look for the ball - that will be a complete upgrade - like going from 2.0 to 6.0.
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They are taught, even in the pros, to not turn their heads. It slows you down and by the time you look back, the ball could be in the air. Watch the pro game-these are professional athletes, and they rarely turn their head. It's the very special ones who can turn their head, maintain spatial awareness, and make a play on the ball. Let's face it-most can't do that-even in the pros because receivers are generally faster than DB's and have better ball skills.
 
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FollowTheLeader said:
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. Florida fired Raymond because his position group didn't show enough improvement or development of players. So we fire Martinez and then hire someone that was fired. Ok....that is literally the most ignorant thing I've seen on this board and it's some ignorant crap posted daily.

There's just no hope for some of this fanbase.....😔
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In this world of free agency maybe we could work up a trade.
 
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People like to ridicule the idea that a bunch of fans think they know better than the coaches what needs fixing. While that's almost always true when talking about one or a few fans, don't underestimate the collective perception and insight of 100K fans. The collective has knowledge and intuition greater than any of the individuals in the collective. And sometimes even greater insight than maybe a stubborn coach that is too close to the trees to see the forest.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I’m not flaming on the OP but im calling total BS on this article. No way Kirby is flirting with another position coach during the stretch run of a possible 3 Peat. Maybe he’s looking at hiring Raymond as analyst. But he’s not hiring him for an on field position and Raymond will have plenty of options. Unless he’s planning on signing a month contract with UGA to go for a ring and then going for a full time gig in January.
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Syracuse hired UGA’s DB coach Fran Brown to be their HC.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I’m not flaming on the OP but im calling total BS on this article. No way Kirby is flirting with another position coach during the stretch run of a possible 3 Peat. Maybe he’s looking at hiring Raymond as analyst. But he’s not hiring him for an on field position and Raymond will have plenty of options. Unless he’s planning on signing a month contract with UGA to go for a ring and then going for a full time gig in January.
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His DBs coach (Fran Brown) got the HC gig at Syracuse. So what aren’t you buying?

Edit: Tmanned
 
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