School Shooting in Knoxville

[luthervol]

You admitted to speeding. That is breaking the law, you ignored the posted speed limit.

Do you think actual criminals are going to be more, or even as, respectful of the law as you are?

I didn't ignore it at all. In fact I used it specifically to determine how fast I would drive.

 

[luthervol]

There are numerous purposes.

To kill was the original.

 

[luthervol]

Some things need killing.

We agree on that.

 

[McDad]

I support all of their rational and reasonable restrictions........same with guns.

I'll bet you'll drink to that notion. It's a shame so many must die, or be harmed just so you can get a buzz.

 

[NorthDallas40]

While the Luthers of the world continue to churn on their stupidity, we can bask in the actual trends in firearm ownership and possession in public. 20 states will have permit less carry this year. 3 more have laws in debate with Texas starting their floor debate today. Texas will eventually join. So at least we can bask in the futility of their stupid narrative.

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[hog88]

Firearms

So the initial invention of guns were for defense. Thanks, we can all agree we have the right to defend ourselves.

 

[hog88]

Society rightfully doesn't think so.

Thankfully we have a constitution to protect the individual from the whims of "society".

 

[luthervol]

I'll bet you'll drink to that notion. It's a shame so many must die, or be harmed just so you can get a buzz.

There are tradeoffs in life.

 

[LouderVol]

Look at the history of firearms. I even provided a link. There is no debate.

And from almost the moment they were first used, they were also in civilian hands not killing or maiming. You are only looking skin deep at history, and not reading the countless stories of guns not killing or maiming. Your source was pure chosen because it confirmed your bias, not because it actually painted the real history of guns.

 

[luthervol]

So the initial invention of guns were for defense. Thanks, we can all agree we have the right to defend ourselves.

Absolutely.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Fair enough trade off. I don't mind being told I can't drive 70mph thru a school zone because I understand the rationale.

Straw man argument. Driving 70 miles an hour through a school zone is nowhere the same equivalency of being able to buy multiple guns. If it were, then it would also be equivalent to buying a knife set.

The act of driving 70 miles an hour through a school zone is inherently dangerous for reason I should not have to spell out, but if necessary will provide particulars.

If I buy multiple guns and take them to my house, driving 20mph through the local school zone, I've not endangered anyone.

 

[hog88]

I support all of their rational and reasonable restrictions........same with guns.

Since some people abuse alcohol and end up hurting/killing others wouldn't it be rational and reasonable to limit how much a person can buy each month or even ban it?

 

[LouderVol]

I didn't ignore it at all. In fact I used it specifically to determine how fast I would drive.

Great way to sell more government laws by posting how you break the current ones.

You avoided the question. You think criminals are as mindful? That someone evading cops is going to only go a certain speed based on the relation to the posted limit?

 

[hog88]

To kill was the original.

For defense was the original purpose.

 

[McDad]

There are tradeoffs in life.

80,000 deaths a year seems equitable, fair, and justified so you can feel good for a few minutes.

 

[LouderVol]

To kill was the original.

And here I thought you believed things changed over time? +/-500 years seems like a reasonable time frame for things to change.

 

[allvol123]

80,000 deaths a year seems equitable, fair, and justified so you can feel good for a few minutes.

Not to mention spousal and child abuse.

 

[McDad]

Not to mention spousal and child abuse.

Think of the fetal-alcohol children, Luther.

 

[hndog609]

While the Luthers of the world continue to churn on their stupidity, we can bask in the actual trends in firearm ownership and possession in public. 20 states will have permit less carry this year. 3 more have laws in debate with Texas starting their floor debate today. Texas will eventually join. So at least we can bask in the futility of their stupid narrative.

Constitutional Carry / Unrestricted / Permitless Carry | USCCA

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[NorthDallas40]

Since some people abuse alcohol and end up hurting/killing others wouldn't it be rational and reasonable to limit how much a person can buy each month or even ban it?

We saw this movie before. It premiered in the early 1900’s.

 

[TheDeeble]

Fair enough trade off. I don't mind being told I can't drive 70mph thru a school zone because I understand the rationale.

But that's not what you're proposing. The school zone speed limit already exists. What you're proposing here is saying even though the school zone speed limit exists, we should limit the amount of traffic coming through the school zone to 1 car at a time.

 

[hog88]

We saw this movie before. It premiered in the early 1900’s.

You mean prohibition wasn't reasonable and rational?

 

[McDad]

You mean prohibition wasn't reasonable and rational?

Sure it was. Remember, as long as "society" deems it reasonable and rational it is. Society used government force to impose their r&r notions on everyone. For some reason, society then considered repeal of their amendment r&r, so we got that too.

Like you, I am comforted society has a stellar track record with privileges and have no concerns with their limitation on my rights.

 

[luthervol]

Since some people abuse alcohol and end up hurting/killing others wouldn't it be rational and reasonable to limit how much a person can buy each month or even ban it?

Alcohol is a consumable....BUT even with that important distinction, if they identify a societal problem of people purchasing bulk quantities and then illegally selling, then yea, it would be rational and reasonable.

 

[McDad]

Alcohol is a consumable....BUT even with that important distinction, if they identify a societal problem of people purchasing bulk quantities and then illegally selling, then yea, it would be rational and reasonable.

Hog didn't mention purchasing and illegally selling. Just simply purchasing...you know, since the abuse, death, disfigurement, and such.