School Shooting in Knoxville

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#531
hog88 said:
Why not? If you support making it a crime for them to drink while pregnant why not remove the temptation and make it illegal for them to buy it?
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First, I never said it should be a crime for them to drink, I said it should be a crime for them to excessively drink (continuums).
Second, you have not seen me once advocate for removing a person's ability to purchase a firearm for defense, recreation, collection, etc.......
 
#533
#533
hog88 said:
Why not? If you support making it a crime for them to drink while pregnant why not remove the temptation and make it illegal for them to buy it?
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I think many of you operate on the assumption that anyone who questions the roll of guns in preventable deaths in this country are advocates for making all guns illegal to all citizens. This is the kind of zero sum stance that has brought policy progress to a halt. We don’t have debates anymore in the form of point and counterpoint.

Devaluing differing perspectives has become the norm because it’s either too difficult to acknowledge that another’s perspective has value, or because winning is valued more than progress... maybe both.
 
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luthervol said:
First, I never said it should be a crime for them to drink, I said it should be a crime for them to excessively drink (continuums).
Second, you have not seen me once advocate for removing a person's ability to purchase a firearm for defense, recreation, collection, etc.......
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You want to restrict how many and what type a person can buy for the purpose of public safety, right?

So why don't you support limiting how much booze a person can buy since far more people are hurt/killed from alcohol than firearms? Why not restrict pregnant women from buying booze since drinking will impact the baby? It's all for the good of society isn't it?
 
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#536
OHvol40 said:
I think many of you operate on the assumption that anyone who questions the roll of guns in preventable deaths in this country are advocates for making all guns illegal to all citizens. This is the kind of zero sum stance that has brought policy progress to a halt. We don’t have debates anymore in the form of point and counterpoint.

Devaluing differing perspectives has become the norm because it’s either too difficult to acknowledge that another’s perspective has value, or because winning is valued more than progress... maybe both.
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And I know people like yourself take a ridiculous stance of limiting the rights of individuals whom have done nothing wrong for the sake of some larger entity which has no rights of its own and think it’s a good idea that we’re interested in talking about.

Hold me accountable for my actions, not the actions of some rando idiot who made poor choices.
 
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#537
Orangeslice13 said:
I like to shoot skeet and target shoot. The goal isn’t to kill in either case.
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It’s to practice killing, that’s the original purpose anyway. If you don’t plan on using them to kill or maim, then it’s just a hobby.
 
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#538
OHvol40 said:
I think many of you operate on the assumption that anyone who questions the roll of guns in preventable deaths in this country are advocates for making all guns illegal to all citizens. This is the kind of zero sum stance that has brought policy progress to a halt. We don’t have debates anymore in the form of point and counterpoint.

Devaluing differing perspectives has become the norm because it’s either too difficult to acknowledge that another’s perspective has value, or because winning is valued more than progress... maybe both.
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There is no reason for debate or discussion about more gun regulation, there should only be debate about removing regulations. If you want to add restrictions, bans ext amend the constitution.
 
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#540
hog88 said:
You want to restrict how many and what type a person can buy for the purpose of public safety, right?

So why don't you support limiting how much booze a person can buy since far more people are hurt/killed from alcohol than firearms? Why not restrict pregnant women from buying booze since drinking will impact the baby? It's all for the good of society isn't it?
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Right.

Booze is a consumable. And I do not see as the mass purchasing of booze in order to resell illegally as a societal problem.
 
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#541
hog88 said:
There is no reason for debate or discussion about more gun regulation, there should only be debate about removing regulations. If you want to add restrictions, bans ext amend the constitution.
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You prove my point.
 
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#547
OHvol40 said:
You prove my point.
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Your “point” is something we’ve already stated many times. We aren’t interested in discussion to add more limitations on a right where the current limitations don’t work. We’re only interested in discussion of removing limitations already in place.
 
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#550
NorthDallas40 said:
Your “point” is something we’ve already stated many times. We aren’t interested in discussion to add more limitations on a right where the current limitations don’t work. We’re only interested in discussion of removing limitations already in place.
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You prove my point too. The bad thing is, I don’t think you even realize it.
 
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