SCOTUS fails to stop TX abortion law.

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InVOLuntary said:
I don't understand the big issue. Is 6 weeks not enough time to get an abortion? I case of rape isn't there a morning after pill? If women are using abortion as a means of birth control I can't imagine the six weeks being an issue.
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Genetic testing isn't done until around 10 weeks
 
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utvolpj said:
Yes for genetic defects
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Is that really the volume of abortions though? Also, it's been a few years so technology I'm sure has advanced but I had a friend who's wife was pregnant and had some testing. She was told her child would be severely deformed and may not live long outside the womb. They of course were devastated. They were advised to abort the fetus. They refused. They gave birth to a perfect little baby girl with zero defects.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Is that really the volume of abortions though? Also, it's been a few years so technology I'm sure has advanced but I had a friend who's wife was pregnant and had some testing. She was told her child would be severely deformed and may not live long outside the womb. They of course were devastated. They were advised to abort the fetus. They refused. They gave birth to a perfect little baby girl with zero defects.
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The point is it's more than zero. Good for your friend but some genetic tests really aren't possible to misinterpret.
 
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utvolpj said:
The point is it's more than zero. Good for your friend but some genetic tests really aren't possible to misinterpret.
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So if a woman lives in Texas, gets pregnant, and has the healthcare to get a genetic test, wouldn't she most likely have the funds to drive to another state if she was adamant about an abortion?
 
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VolStrom said:
So if a woman lives in Texas, gets pregnant, and has the healthcare to get a genetic test, wouldn't she most likely have the funds to drive to another state if she was adamant about an abortion?
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And that healthcare would cover a procedure in another state? Why should she even have to?
 
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VolStrom said:
I didn't say healthcare would cover the procedure in another state, your reading comprehension sucks.
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So does your "logic" when you say that the ability to pay for a procedure like that relates in any way to the cost of raising a child.

Why force someone to leave the state?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't understand the big issue. Is 6 weeks not enough time to get an abortion? In case of rape isn't there a morning after pill? If women are using abortion as a means of birth control I can't imagine the six weeks being an issue.
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Six weeks is barely enough time for a woman to realize that her missed period is more than just a delayed period. Which is, I believe, the point of the language of the law.
 
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AshG said:
Six weeks is barely enough time for a woman to realize that her missed period is more than just a delayed period. Which is, I believe, the point of the language of the law.
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Just curious, how many women in your family had abortions?
 
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AshG said:
Six weeks is barely enough time for a woman to realize that her missed period is more than just a delayed period. Which is, I believe, the point of the language of the law.
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Do pregnancy test do not show results before 6 weeks? Also, that barely enough time to see a missed period is worst case scenario. That would assume the woman had just finished his/her period (😁) prior to conception.
 
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR said:
I'm keenly aware, as the missus would attest, it's just abortion is not a male issue...We don't face any of the potential physical/mental harms of childbearing or childbirth that women face...Therefore, not our issue.
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Noone is disputing if medical issues as a legit reason, or rape, or incest
.which make up only 5% of abortions
...but abortion is used now as forM of birth control for many..thats the issue
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Do pregnancy test do not show results before 6 weeks? Also, that barely enough time to see a missed period is worst case scenario. That would assume the woman had just finished his/her period (😁) prior to conception.
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That also assumes every woman's cycle is the same. I know that is not the case so a few extra weeks may not even raise an eyebrow
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Noone is disputing if medical issues as a legit reason, or rape, or incest
.which make up only 5% of abortions
...but abortion is used now as forM of birth control for many..thats the issue
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Why is that an issue when those doing it have no relation to you? Why remove the rights of all to just punish since you disagree with? Why allow unconnected parties to sue and collect money if the procedure is done?
 
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utvolpj said:
Why is that an issue when those doing it have no relation to you? Why remove the rights of all to just punish since you disagree with? Why allow unconnected parties to sue and collect money if the procedure is done?
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those not involved shouldn't be liable..i agree with that IMO..but abortion in general, im ok with before a heartbeat..but after that only the reasons above should be approved...killing a fetus with a heartbeat is not birth control..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
those not involved shouldn't be liable..i agree with that IMO..but abortion in general, im ok with before a heartbeat..but after that only the reasons above should be approved...killing a fetus with a heartbeat is not birth control..
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Then don't do it. It's really a simple solution

I'm against lots of things but don't feel it's the role of govt to prevent others from doing them.
 
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AshG said:
Six weeks is barely enough time for a woman to realize that her missed period is more than just a delayed period. Which is, I believe, the point of the language of the law.
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Can we draw the line at 10 weeks then? Since 10 weeks is when genetic info can be determined also?
 
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