sec expansion (merged)

#26
#26
GoBigOrangeVols said:
dream scenario... add Clemson and FSU to the East... Texas and A&M in the West
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The NCAA wouldn't have to worry about having a tourney to determine the national champ then; they would already have it in the SEC Title Game. The National Title game that followed would be nothing more than a glorified exhibition.
 
#29
#29
Maybe I'll end up wrong, but we've heard that about Clemson time and again...

Here is all I know though: They have a huge, passionate fanbase, good amount of money, they're not too far from a number of recruiting hotbeds, yet they can never seem to put it together. I liken them to being an east coast version of UofO without the occasional conference title. Manage to pull in a few blue chips every year and pull out that ten win season every now and then, but fall short of getting the conference title and the major bowl win.

WVU on the other hand has been doing it all. Granted, they're in the Big East, but they've put it together pretty well. The year they beat Georgia in a BCS game was a particular standout. Plus, you have to consider their basketball success in the toughest conference in the country.
 
#30
#30
These "who joins the SEC" rumors are just the ripple effect of the Big Ten expansion that's about to come down. Once the BT completes their expansion to either 14 or 16 teams, the SEC is sure to follow. I don't know if there's any validity to the Virginia Tech rumor, but some pundits have FSU and Miami coming to the SEC. We shall see what we shall see.
 
#31
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milohimself said:
Maybe I'll end up wrong, but we've heard that about Clemson time and again...

Here is all I know though: They have a huge, passionate fanbase, good amount of money, they're not too far from a number of recruiting hotbeds, yet they can never seem to put it together. I liken them to being an east coast version of UofO without the occasional conference title. Manage to pull in a few blue chips every year and pull out that ten win season every now and then, but fall short of getting the conference title and the major bowl win.

WVU on the other hand has been doing it all. Granted, they're in the Big East, but they've put it together pretty well. The year they beat Georgia in a BCS game was a particular standout. Plus, you have to consider their basketball success in the toughest conference in the country.
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All good points. You could be right. I'd prefer Clemson to WVU, but that's just an opinion. The USc - Clemson rivalry would be that much better.

WVU is becoming (or already is) a legitimate basketball school though and it would be nice to add another one of those. We would get more respect.
 
#32
#32
No to Clemson... USCe is already in that market.

The TV money says two of WV, TT, TAMU, UVA, VT, Mizzu, OK St, etc. Something like that.
 
#33
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37620VOL said:
No to Clemson... USCe is already in that market.

The TV money says two of WV, TT, TAMU, UVA, VT, Mizzu, OK St, etc. Something like that.
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That Gainesville to Lubbock trip would be a doozey. Texas schools do not make sense IMO.
 
#34
#34
That ^^^ is what you have to consider. It's all about that money. It's what has BYU as a serious consideration to join the Big XII or Pac-10. All about that market. Miami would be a big plus for the SEC, because when the program is good, bandwagoners come out in droves for The U. I saw nearly as much Canes gear as Ducks gear around town last time Miami was any good, and it's the same everywhere else.

FSU doesn't have that big market, but I'm sure any conference would add both at once if they could just in case that rivalry starts becoming meaningful again. TV ratings for that game are through the roof when they're both ranked.
 
#35
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Kick out Miss. State and USC, and add OU, TX, Miami, Va Tech, WVU, and Missouri.

16 team conference :shades:
 
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Sabanocchio said:
That Gainesville to Lubbock trip would be a doozey. Texas schools do not make sense IMO.
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Doesn't matter. Money does.

The Big East has schools from Tampa to Connecticut to Wisconsin. The Pac-10 has teams going from Seattle to Tucson. That's 4-5 hours with a layover at Sky Harbor, and it's been that way for almost 40 years.
 
#37
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milohimself said:
Doesn't matter. Money does.

The Big East has schools from Tampa to Connecticut to Wisconsin. The Pac-10 has teams going from Seattle to Tucson. That's 4-5 hours with a layover at Sky Harbor, and it's been that way for almost 40 years.
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Then lets keep it about money. TT, UVA, A&M...none make sense monetarily and none would be competitive in the SEC.
 
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I'd beg to differ about A&M. 18th most valuable college football program in the country per Forbes and about to have the largest stadium in the game. I could see them coming in and finishing at least in the middle of the west every year. Not winning it, but being able to get in that top 3.
 
#39
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Sabanocchio said:
Then lets keep it about money. TT, UVA, A&M...none make sense monetarily and none would be competitive in the SEC.
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I agree except for A&M. The SEC would also gain Houston, Dallas, among other Texas TV Markets. Some of the biggest in the country. A&M had the 21st largest athletic department (monetary wise) in the country. I think of any Texas schools, on Texas and A&M would be the only two that would make sense
 
#40
#40
I would be all for dropping Arky and adding A&M to the west. I think they would be more competitive with money, fanbase, and talent.
 
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#42
well, being from Mizzou, i'm pretty much obsessed with anything related to big 10 expansion.....


Big 10 is going to 16, plain and simple.... I think initially they wanted ND to get to 12, but then when ND said no, they explored (and fell in love with) the notion of 14. Then ND talked and implied that if the Big 10 was gonna add several teams, that they may be forced into joining.... Vwalla, Jim Delaney figures out that he can have 16 - including ND....

Arkansas isn't going anywhere.... the SEC >>>>>>>>>>>>> Big 12.....

Now, i also think that nebraska and Mizzou will get invited to the big 10. This will destroy the big 12 - two if its original big 8 members bouncing... Colorado is almost certainly gonna be invited to join the Pac 10...

This leaves 3/6 big 12 north teams gone....

Now the SEC will be watching this and should try to get its piece of the carcus... With these superconferences forming, there will be so much money going around that it will make void the issue of travel expenses... Texas and Texas A&M will get courted by the SEC...

Now after this, who knows what will happen....
But lets face it, Miss St. brings nothing to the table in the SEC. Im not saying this cuz of their recent athletic irrelevance, but they don't add a market, and they don't have a wide following. Ole Miss gets as much of that state as its worth.

Having 2 SC schools doesn't make sense. That state just isn't worth it. But if I had to pick, I'd much rather have clemson - a lot more passion and money.

Miami would probably be worth adding. I doubt FSU gets invited again, and they don't bring as much to the table as Miami. Va Tech would also probably be a possibility due to the added market of Virginia.

Sorry this was long.... rambling

P.S. - oh and Vandy never got a Big 10 offer.....
 
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#43
#43
Oh I would like this a lot!

I posted a link to this discussion on the ESPN WVU forum so they can join in on the fun. A lot of good people over there, so maybe they'll have some more insight.
 
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#44
#44
I'm taking WVU over Clampson any day. There's only one team I could possibly hate more than Bammer, and that would be an SEC-Clampson team. We have a SC team. Let it be.

And as good as the TX football program is, this is SOUTHEASTERN football. Let's keep it west of the Mississippi (toss AR) and south of the Mason/Dixon.
 
#47
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UTVOL02 said:
I'd rather see WVU join the ACC and Clemson join the SEC.
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Clemson won't leave the ACC....WVU would be an excellent addition and a natural rival for several teams in the east including UT and Kentucky...Be a nice basketball add as well....Good tradition up there.
 
#48
#48
Possibly playing bama, florida, texas, west virginia, south carolina, georgia, vandy, and kentucky sounds good to me.
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#50
#50
On a technical concept, West Virginia is considered as part of the Midwest when it come to the voting block during election season. West Virginia would be Big Ten eligible.
 
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