SEC once again has a pathetic NC schedule

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droski

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is it no wonder why the SEC has the most bowl eligable teams every year? just win 2 conference games and you go to a bowl. The hardest SEC schedule would rank 7th in the pac-10.

SEC

1. Florida: Hawaii, Miami, Citadel, at Florida State
2. Tennessee: at UCLA, UAB, Northern Illinois, Wyoming
3. Georgia: Georgia Southern, Central Michigan, at Arizona State, Georgia Tech
4. South Carolina: North Carolina State, Wofford, UAB, at Clemson
5. Auburn: Louisiana-Monroe, Southern Miss, at West Virginia, Tennessee-Martin
6. Ole Miss: Memphis, at Wake Forest, Samford, Louisiana-Monroe
7. Arkansas: Western Illinois, Louisiana-Monroe, at Texas, Tulsa
8. Alabama: vs. Clemson, Tulane, Western Kentucky, Arkansas State
9. Mississippi State: at Louisiana Tech, Southeastern Louisiana, at Georgia Tech, Middle Tennessee.
10. Vanderbilt: at Miami (OH), Rice, Duke, at Wake Forest
11. LSU: Appalachian State, Troy, North Texas, Tulane
12. Kentucky: at Louisville, Norfolk State, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky

Games against BCS schools: 15 (out of 48): 31 percent.

Games against Championship Subdivision schools: 9 (out of 33 remaining): 27 percent.



The pac-10 on the other hand:

Pac-10

1. USC: at Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame
2. Washington: BYU, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
3. UCLA: Tennessee, at BYU, Fresno State
4. Oregon State: at Penn State, Hawaii, at Utah
5. California: Michigan State, at Maryland, Colorado State
6. Arizona State: Georgia, Northern Arizona, UNLV
7. Oregon: Utah State, at Purdue, Boise State
8. Washington State: Oklahoma State, at Baylor, Portland State
9. Stanford: at TCU, San Jose State, at Notre Dame
10. Arizona: Idaho, Toledo, at New Mexico

Games against BCS schools: 14 (out of 30 possible): 47 percent.

Games against Championship Subdivision (formerly I-AA) schools: 2 (out of 16 possible): 13 percent.

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#4
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Pac10 has to play tough NC games to make up for playing their weak Pac10 sisters.

Now go back and rate the power of the SEC and Pac 10 conference schedule.

........VOL-atile1 beat me to it........
 
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I don't see why Georgia's nonconference schedule is ranked below UT's. For the first time in the history of football, I think ours is easier.
 
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5. California: Michigan State, at Maryland, Colorado State

Those teams were 16-22 last year.

3 of the PAC10 "Games against BCS schools" are ND, they were 3-9
 
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Ok...after USC who do you have as far as a challenge? Arizona State probably. Oregon...yeah. Then there is a big drop off. So you have 3 pretty challenging games in the PAC 10.

In the SEC East alone we have Georgia and Florida, ranked #1 and #5 in today's ESPN Top 25 poll. South Carolina will be a challenge. Kentucky will be a little worse this year and Vandy will be Vandy

In the West there is # 12 LSU and #10 Auburn. Alabama will be much improved. Ole Miss won't be bad. Arkansas has Petrino. Mississippi State will be alright.

Our in conference more than makes up for our out of conference. Plus, we are one of the only teams that schedule good out of conference games, why are you complaining to us?
 
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Are you saying Tennessee scheduling UCLA is bad but UCLA playing Tennessee is good?
 
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I'll swap our schedule with any schedule in the country. I'd rather not have to play UF, @Aub, and @UGA.
 
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Ok...after USC who do you have as far as a challenge? Arizona State probably. Oregon...yeah. Then there is a big drop off. So you have 3 pretty challenging games in the PAC 10.

In the SEC East alone we have Georgia and Florida, ranked #1 and #5 in today's ESPN Top 25 poll. South Carolina will be a challenge. Kentucky will be a little worse this year and Vandy will be Vandy

In the West there is # 12 LSU and #10 Auburn. Alabama will be much improved. Ole Miss won't be bad. Arkansas has Petrino. Mississippi State will be alright.

Our in conference more than makes up for our out of conference. Plus, we are one of the only teams that schedule good out of conference games, why are you complaining to us?

Arizona St. is only a challenge for the Pac 10.

Texas proved that in their bowl game, when they absolutely crushed the Sun Devils...even though AZ St. got that call involving Mack's son in law.
 
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When there is only one real team in conference, there is plenty of room to schedule mediocre teams out of conference.
 
#18
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Dude, it is hard enough to get to 6-6 in the SEC. Not scheduling patsies is a sure way not to get into the BCS.

Or a bowl.
 
#19
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There's about 4 or 5 teams on the pac-10 nc schedule that are even worth mentioning...
1) Tennessee
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Ohio St.
5) Penn St. (maybe)
(notice 2 of them are SEC teams)

But on the SEC Conference schedules every team in the SEC can say that they have atleast 6 tough games, many which fall into about a 7 or 8 week span... for example, ill compare the pac 10's toughest schedule vs. against any SEC team schedule..

the pac 10 team... UCLA.. and since this is VOLnation.. Tennessee...

UCLA
Tennessee
BYU
Arizona
Fresno
WSU
Oregon
Stanford
Cal
Oregon St.
Washington
Arizona St.
USC

Big Orange
UCLA
UAB
Fla
Auburn
NIU
Georgia
Miss. St.
Alabama
South Carolina
Wyoming
Vandy
Kentucky

UCLA's schedule is probably the toughest in the pac 10 because they play UT, at Arizona St., and USC.. thats 3 tough games... WOW... Tennessee has 3 tough games just in the month of september.. not to mention the rest of the schedule where we play at Georgia, Alabama, and at South Carolina, and if we finish atop of the eastern division then we go on to play in the SEC Championship game against a team such as LSU, Auburn, etc..

The point is, SEC teams can't play in 7 or 8 tough SEC games and then go out to LA and play USC because its really not fair because the PAC 10 is weak and you have to play some tough OOC games due to your weak in-conf schedule and lack of conference championship game.. Im done, im not even going to say anything else.. ive said enough
 
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Not to mention the physical beating your team takes week in and week out, you know? Florida banged heads with LSU last year, softened them up, then Kentucky beats LSU. LSU really banged up Kentucky, who went out the next week and lost to Florida. The SEC, man, is brutal. Ridiculously so.

And to think that some idiots are proposing that we do away with non-conference opponents and just play 11 games- one with each member of the conference! You'd have so many injuries from the pounding you'd take. I mean, really. Sometimes you just need to have a cupcake and eat it, too, to rest up.
 
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hahaha OE. droski Cal has to play tough NC games, because other than one or maybe 2 conf. games, it's a powder puff league
 
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if all SEC teams dominate all non-sec teams as you guys claim that clearly playing a tough nonconference schedule shouldn't be a burden right?

and let's take a look at Tenn schedule:
UCLA - Easy win
UAB - Easy win
Fla - Tough
Auburn - Tough
NIU - Easy win
Georgia - Tough
Miss. St. - Easy win
Alabama - Tough
South Carolina - Hard to say (probably easy win)
Wyoming - Easy win
Vandy - Easy win
Kentucky - Hard to say (probably easy win)


Winning 7-8 games in the SEC is EASY for an average team is probably easier than it is in any other major conference except the big east which has 5 non conference games. Winning 12 games is very very hard. Most pac-10 schools are good enough to give any top team a game on any given day (as has been proven by SC losing to UCLA, Stanford, and OSU. The same cannot be said for a good portion of the SEC.
 
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The fact is the whole "the sec is too hard" is a pathetic excuse not used by the vols for instance (and it wouldn't be used for any reputable school). The point of the current SEC schedule is a) more home games and b) to pad your records. If you truly believed that SEC teams are vastly superior to all non-sec teams than why is the conference terrified of scheduling road non conference games?
 
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If you truly believed that SEC teams are vastly superior to all non-sec teams than why is the conference terrified of scheduling road non conference games?

Puhlease. Are you serious? "Terrified?"

That's a bit much, wouldn't you say?

If you don't believe that the SEC, top-to-bottom, is the best conference in the country, you're lying to yourself.

To suggest that the entire conference is afraid to go on the road against a solid opponent is just plain preposterous...

The Vols have gone to Notre Dame, Miami, UCLA, and have future road trips to Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Oregon.

In recent years, Auburn and Arkansas have been to SC...Bama's been to Oklahoma, FSU(in jacksonville), and has a neutral site game with Clemson this year...Vandy's been to Michigan...Florida regularly goes to Florida St and Miami...LSU has been to VT...Ole Miss has been to Missouri...Miss St has been to WVU...Arkansas went on the road and upset Texas...

and the SEC has looked fairly solid in non-conference meetings with Ohio St. recently as well...

This entire thread is ridiculous.
 
#25
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if all SEC teams dominate all non-sec teams as you guys claim that clearly playing a tough nonconference schedule shouldn't be a burden right?

and let's take a look at Tenn schedule:
UCLA - Easy win
UAB - Easy win
Fla - Tough
Auburn - Tough
NIU - Easy win
Georgia - Tough
Miss. St. - Easy win
Alabama - Tough
South Carolina - Hard to say (probably easy win)
Wyoming - Easy win
Vandy - Easy win
Kentucky - Hard to say (probably easy win)


Winning 7-8 games in the SEC is EASY for an average team is probably easier than it is in any other major conference except the big east which has 5 non conference games. Winning 12 games is very very hard. Most pac-10 schools are good enough to give any top team a game on any given day (as has been proven by SC losing to UCLA, Stanford, and OSU. The same cannot be said for a good portion of the SEC.

Miss St crooms someone every year, Vandy gets close (like UGA last year), UK beat LSU last year and plenty of others get taken to the wire by teams like Ol Miss and Ark.

You also paint UCLA as an easy win but was it that way when the contract was signed? There is a history between UT/UCLA too. Was Cal scheduled as a patsy? Was ND, Miami or future games like OU, Oregon and Neb?

Uga's road OOC has been an embarrassment for 50yrs but many of the other teams will step up and play the top.
 

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