Seems like we are about 2yrs away...

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#52
Thread title is misleading. Says we are two years away the discusses Worley's performance. I'll address the thread title. Most knew when butch took over it was a 3 to 4 year rebuild. IMO we right on schedule. Great young talent, huge amount of underclassmen in the 2 deep. If the excellent recruiting continues and when these young guns get some maturity under their belts, we'll be competitive with anyone. People need to sit back and enjoy the ride. When you've been as low as the Vols have been the last few years it makes the ride to the top all that much sweeter. These opposing coaches better be careful about running the score up now because they may be on the other end of it in the not so distant future. IMO
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
...from being a perennial challenger in the SEC E. We do seem improved on D, but even the coaches acknowledge we are undersized at the DT position. Obviously, we are young, and don't have much experience on the OL.

But after 2 games, I think we can see where our weaknesses lay. The OL is the biggest. Sure, that's obvious by now. But, I think the No.1 obstacle to our ability to win games in the SEC is that Butch and Bajakian are basically FORCING a classic pocket passer to run their read option scheme. I suspect they will look back on this and realize how bad of a mistake it was.

Dobbs is really the ONLY QB on the roster who fits the scheme. So, it's a tough choice to bench a senior in favor of a Sophomore. We fans tend to assume that because a player doesn't start, that = they suck. Not so.

I think in order for this team to have a fighting chance to prevail in this meat-grinder of a schedule, Bajakian is going to have to adapt his offense more to suit his pocket passer, rather than pretend defenses will respect the QB keeper because we make Worley run it once or twice in a game.

They don't. So, break it up a bit, mixing in some I-Formation and Pistol sets, and bring Dobbs in on critical 3rd or 4th and short, and goal line situations.

Worley is simply a bad fit for this scheme, so at least modify the scheme to fit the QB, not the other way around.
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How many times are you going to repackage this horse crap and try to sell it?

LOOK AT THE QB CHOSE AS "HIS GUY" IN THE '15 class. It is a guy with a skill set VERY MUCH like Worley's. If you don't understand Jones' philosophy on O... that's fine. If you don't understand what he wants from a QB... that's fine. Just stop acting like you know more about it than Jones does.

Their bringing the OL along. They can't give Worley the longer patterns that would make the O even more dangerous because of the OL. As they develop, so will the O. But based on what Jones has actually said AND his apparent priorities in recruiting a QB... Worley is VERY close to what he wants. An accurate passer who distributes the ball well and manages the O.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Thread title is misleading. Says we are two years away the discusses Worley's performance. I'll address the thread title. Most knew when butch took over it was a 3 to 4 year rebuild. IMO we right on schedule. Great young talent, huge amount of underclassmen in the 2 deep. If the excellent recruiting continues and when these young guns get some maturity under their belts, we'll be competitive with anyone. People need to sit back and enjoy the ride. When you've been as low as the Vols have been the last few years it makes the ride to the top all that much sweeter. These opposing coaches better be careful about running the score up now because they may be on the other end of it in the not so distant future. IMO
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We will get there for sure, it just takes time.
 
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eddiebob said:
I do NOT want to write him off or even criticize the young man, but NOT understanding the EXTREME hype about Hurd? Good kid, great athlete but just don’t see the hype! Not built like any excellent running back ESPECIALLY in the SEC (in fact I’m afraid he’s gonna break sometime during the tough season). Look at Fournette, look at ‘Bama’s runnin backs, in fact look at nearly ALL the SEC’s backs (Gurley) and tell me this guy is gonna excel in the SEC? Huge VFL, and hope I’m wrong but so far Lane has shown me more! In fact were I him (Lane) I would be VERY disappointed in seeing Hurd getting more reps!
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how many threads are you going to post this babbling load of crap in? all of them? you obviously don't know a thing about football...
 
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Peterman should be the starter because he fits closest to the last good qb that in to Jones' system -_-
 
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I'd rather have the guy that can throw the ball to North, Croom, Pearson, Howard, Wolf, Helm, Smith, and all our play makers in space so they can get 20-50 yards after the catch or take it to the house rather than a guy that can pick up 10-15 extra yards on maybe 2-3 plays.
 
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How many times was Hurd hit a the line? Everytime! There is absolutely no push for him to even get started
 
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triad280 said:
how many threads are you going to post this babbling load of crap in? all of them? you obviously don't know a thing about football...
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I've forgotten more about football than your DA will ever know! Whats "Triad" stand for Three Stooges??
 
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I was thinking about this today too. IMO we are about 3 good JuCo linemen away from being a competitor right now. Khalil is dominant enough to count as a JuCo in his own right. We could be one year away given the right new talent.
 
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KBVol said:
I'm fully behind this team, 100%. Can we not discuss whether or not the coaches want to redshirt Dobbs to be able to stagger our QBs? Worley is the man we need to ride with this year. Dobbs' time is hopefully coming and we'd be better served with him getting another year to develop and hopefully be the starter in 2015.
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Ya I hear you. It just seems like some people are ready to accept another crappy year and talking about the the future. But I think we have a chance to be an 8 or 9 win team. Worley and aj are seniors and playing lights out. I understand that if Butch keeps recruiting the way he is now our depth will improve every year but who knows how good these young guys will end up. I think worley is incredibly underappreciated. The future is now imo
 
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eddiebob said:
I've forgotten more about football than your DA will ever know! Whats "Triad" stand for Three Stooges??
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seems you have forgotten all of it by your posts about Hurd...
Triad is a brand of 100 mph+ Kevlar race boats...
great comeback by the way...
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
lol yeah I was just thinking there's lots of butt hurt in here
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VolFan4Life87 said:
lol yeah I was just thinking there's lots of butt hurt in here
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Yeah totally butt hurt for backing up players who give their all for Tennessee. Innacurate or accurate, starter or 3rd string, these players deserve the respect from all of VolNation for their sacrifices and commitments to the program we so desperately cherish.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
If we don't have a balanced offense, the defense will shut us down. Right now were benefitting from having stud receivers and Worley's improved accuracy, but if you re watch yesterday's game the DBs are practically tattooed on our WR's 9 times out of 10. Worley is threading the needle and making incredible throws but unless we start busting some big runs and scaring the defense out of their tight pass coverages, I can promise you SEC DBs are going to get some interceptions. That could shut Worley's confidence down and derail the entire offense.

This offense in general makes me mad sometimes - I just hate that on run plays our RB has to run 5 yards just to get to the LOS. I miss good ole I-formation, down the throat running.
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This is pretty much what I was saying in the original post. That the coaches have deemed Worley to be the best option at QB....but that doesn't mean he fits the offense the best.

Since he does not fit, it's going to hurt us...no doubt about it. Worley obviously does not like to pull the ball and run, even when it's there for him to do so. Even if he did run it more often, he's not going to gash teams like a Marcus Mariotta would.

So, my point was that Bajakian needs to modify this offense a bit more to fit the QB, and not force a pocket passer to run the read option.

If Chaney can switch to the Pistol formation late in the season (2011), because of Bray's sore thumb, then Bajakian can mix in a good deal of I-formation and Pistol sets, to mix it up. But running read option all the time is making this offense way too predictable...without a credible running QB threat
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
...from being a perennial challenger in the SEC E. We do seem improved on D, but even the coaches acknowledge we are undersized at the DT position. Obviously, we are young, and don't have much experience on the OL.

But after 2 games, I think we can see where our weaknesses lay. The OL is the biggest. Sure, that's obvious by now. But, I think the No.1 obstacle to our ability to win games in the SEC is that Butch and Bajakian are basically FORCING a classic pocket passer to run their read option scheme. I suspect they will look back on this and realize how bad of a mistake it was.

Dobbs is really the ONLY QB on the roster who fits the scheme. So, it's a tough choice to bench a senior in favor of a Sophomore. We fans tend to assume that because a player doesn't start, that = they suck. Not so.

I think in order for this team to have a fighting chance to prevail in this meat-grinder of a schedule, Bajakian is going to have to adapt his offense more to suit his pocket passer, rather than pretend defenses will respect the QB keeper because we make Worley run it once or twice in a game.

They don't. So, break it up a bit, mixing in some I-Formation and Pistol sets, and bring Dobbs in on critical 3rd or 4th and short, and goal line situations.

Worley is simply a bad fit for this scheme, so at least modify the scheme to fit the QB, not the other way around.
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yeah because Dobbs really won the position last year. he was so good he made 3rd string this year.
 
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chattavol420 said:
This whole thread (end every idiot that agrees with op) is a diss to all of the current players. We've got the best opportunity for a decent record we've had in several years and somehow people have determined we can't win anything this year. If I was aj or worley and read this I'd be pissed.

How about we just get behind these guys we've got right now and enjoy the moment. Who know what the future hilds
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You're the idiot, Forrest. I said Worley is a bad fit for this offense....and he is. PERIOD. You know damn well, that if CBJ was the HC when Worley was a HS Senior, he would not have recruited him.

Why? Because he sucks? No. Because he doesn't fit this offensive scheme. I don't know why that's so hard for you and others to grasp. Would he be a good fit in Cutcliffe or Chaney's offense, yes he would.

But, CBJ and Bajakian feel scheme fit has to take a back seat to experience/seniority. I'm ok with that. Tough call to make on their part. So, what I said in the original post was, Bajakian should adjust/modify his scheme to fit Worley better....to get away from the Read Option element more and mix in more pro style (I formation) and/or Pistol formations.

He could sprinkle in more and more each week, until the read option is only a small portion of this offense.
 
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garbear said:
yeah because Dobbs really won the position last year. he was so good he made 3rd string this year.
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You're making the false assumption that the coaches choosing EXPERIENCE or Seniority over scheme fit = Dobbs sucks.

I recall CBJ saying the week before the season kickoff, that Dobbs and Peterman would CONTINUE to compete for the backup spot. I like how you and other haters keep trying to demote him when the coach said it would remain an open competition throughout the season. Guess you conveniently choose to ignore that part. It helps you hate a little more.
 

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