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LOL... sabatage??? The cope is strong.

"Sabotage, Shoddy Maintenance?": Questions Swirl As Aviation Incidents Spike This Week

Here are the latest headlines:

  1. ZeroHedge (Tuesday): "Plane Was Nosediving": United Airlines Boeing 737 Engine Erupts In Flames Over Texas
  2. CBS News (Thursday): American Air jet clipped Frontier Jet on Miami International Airport tarmac
  3. ZeroHedge (Friday): United's Boeing 737 Max Jet Veers Off Runway In Houston, Marking Third Incident In Week
  4. ZeroHedge (Friday): Tire Separates From Boeing 777, Crushes Cars In San Francisco Parking
  5. ABC7 News (Friday): SFO-MEX United flight makes emergency landing at LAX due to hydraulic failure: officials
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
LOL... sabatage??? The cope is strong.

"Sabotage, Shoddy Maintenance?": Questions Swirl As Aviation Incidents Spike This Week

Here are the latest headlines:

  1. ZeroHedge (Tuesday): "Plane Was Nosediving": United Airlines Boeing 737 Engine Erupts In Flames Over Texas
  2. CBS News (Thursday): American Air jet clipped Frontier Jet on Miami International Airport tarmac
  3. ZeroHedge (Friday): United's Boeing 737 Max Jet Veers Off Runway In Houston, Marking Third Incident In Week
  4. ZeroHedge (Friday): Tire Separates From Boeing 777, Crushes Cars In San Francisco Parking
  5. ABC7 News (Friday): SFO-MEX United flight makes emergency landing at LAX due to hydraulic failure: officials
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Sounds like there are some serious maintenance issues with these aircraft. This could get people killed if allowed to continue. Alaska flight 261 is a prime example of what poor maintenance can cause.

I'm no aviation industry expert, but I do know that something needs to change at a cultural level in these companies. It seems like they are prioritizing DEI over safety.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Sounds like there are some serious maintenance issues with these aircraft. This could get people killed if allowed to continue. Alaska flight 261 is a prime example of what poor maintenance can cause.

I'm no aviation industry expert, but I do know that something needs to change at a cultural level in these companies. It seems like they are prioritizing DEI over safety.
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Most of what I am seeing is coming out of United. They appear to be a "leader" in DEI BS. I won't set foot on one of their flights again.
 
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Matt2496 said:
Sounds like there are some serious maintenance issues with these aircraft. This could get people killed if allowed to continue. Alaska flight 261 is a prime example of what poor maintenance can cause.

I'm no aviation industry expert, but I do know that something needs to change at a cultural level in these companies. It seems like they are prioritizing DEI over safety.
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Well, I'm not here supporting this DEI nonsense, but this is NOT the major issue. The issue is not just a Boeing issue... it runs through all of these major companies.

1. They make decisions based on quarterly earnings, so every decision is aimed at short term goals
2. Loss of skilled workers in STEM and the trades
3. Related to #1, bean counters and bureaucrats drive decisions, not qualified people within the company that know how the widgets are made
4. Companies do NOT want to invest in real employee development and developing a deep bench within the organization

The items I mention here was nearly 40 years in the making, not some recent DEI issues from the past half decade or so.
 
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NEW: 62-year-old Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in his truck after he didn't show up for a legal interview linked to a case against Boeing.

Barnett worked for Boeing for 32 years and retired in 2017. After retiring, Barnett spoke out about how Boeing was cutting corners on their airplanes.

Just days before his death, Barnett gave evidence in a lawsuit against Boeing.

Barnett accused Boeing of "deliberately fitting sub-standard parts" on their aircraft.

He also accused Boeing of having faulty oxygen systems, saying one in four breathing masks would *not* work in an emergency situation.

Barnett said new plane builds were rushed. When he brought his concerns forward, they were allegedly ignored by the company.

When he died, Barnett was in Charleston for interviews linked to a case against Boeing.

He was supposed to come back for more questioning on Saturday but did not show up. Inquiries were made to his hotel where Barnett was found dead in his car in the parking lot.

Police are investigating Barnett's death but say he died from a "self-inflicted" wound.

The video below was a recent interview Barnett had with TMZ.

Totally normal.









 
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jmacvols1 said:
Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg

NEW: 62-year-old Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in his truck after he didn't show up for a legal interview linked to a case against Boeing.

Barnett worked for Boeing for 32 years and retired in 2017. After retiring, Barnett spoke out about how Boeing was cutting corners on their airplanes.

Just days before his death, Barnett gave evidence in a lawsuit against Boeing.

Barnett accused Boeing of "deliberately fitting sub-standard parts" on their aircraft.

He also accused Boeing of having faulty oxygen systems, saying one in four breathing masks would *not* work in an emergency situation.

Barnett said new plane builds were rushed. When he brought his concerns forward, they were allegedly ignored by the company.

When he died, Barnett was in Charleston for interviews linked to a case against Boeing.

He was supposed to come back for more questioning on Saturday but did not show up. Inquiries were made to his hotel where Barnett was found dead in his car in the parking lot.

Police are investigating Barnett's death but say he died from a "self-inflicted" wound.

The video below was a recent interview Barnett had with TMZ.

Totally normal.









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Karen Silkwood-ed???

Boeing Whistleblower Found Dead In A Truck From "Self-Inflicted Gunshot Wound"
 
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jmacvols1 said:
www.timesnownews.com

Boeing 737 Engine Blowout: Delta Flight From Aruba To Atlanta Makes Emergency Landing After 'Circling Island Four Times'

Despite an engine blowout on take-off, the flight circled Aruba four times, a passenger wrote on Reddit. Before being flown out on Wednesday, the passengers were compelled to stay an additional night in Aruba. Passengers of the Atlanta-bound Delta Airlines flight took to sites to express their...
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Engine problems likely have nothing to do with Boeing. They don't manufacture engines.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
but how old were the engines, what kind of maintenance care, or lack thereof, by boeing contributed to the engine failure?
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Engine maintenance is going to be done by the aircraft owner or their contracted facility. Any contracted facility will trace their procedures back to the engine mfgr not the airframe builder.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
but how old were the engines, what kind of maintenance care, or lack thereof, by boeing contributed to the engine failure?
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Boeing doesn't maintain the engines. That's up to the airline flying the plane. Airplanes aren't like car companies. Ford, Chevy, Toyota, ect research and manufacture their own engines. If there's an engine problem that's not related to owner neglect and is a defect, then it would go back to that car company as responsible.

Airplanes aren't like that. Boeing builds out the airframes and systems and uses a GE, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls Royce, or CFM engine on it for example and it's delivered. Those are just some of the major engine manufacturures. There are others. But each airline is responsible for checking oils, borescopes, replacing components, fixing problems on that engine over it's life. If there's an engine defect or a manufacturing concern, that's a problem for who made the engine. Not Boeing. All the engine mx procedures the airline follows comes the engine manufacturer. Again, not Boeing.
 
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Boeing doesn't maintain the engines. That's up to the airline flying the plane. Airplanes aren't like car companies. Ford, Chevy, Toyota, ect research and manufacture their own engines. If there's an engine problem that's not related to owner neglect and is a defect, then it would go back to that car company as responsible.

Airplanes aren't like that. Boeing builds out the airframs and systems and uses a GE, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls Royce, or CFM engine on it for example and it's delivered. Those are just some of the major engine manufacturures. There are others. But each airline is responsible for checking oils, borescopes, replace components, fixing problems on that engine over it's life. If there's an engine defect or a manufacturing concern, that's a problem for who made the engine. Not Boeing.
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airlines have responsibility for maintenance.

boeing does have responsibilty for design failures.

Boeing Details CFM56-7 Nacelle Inlet And Cowl Redesign Effort | Aviation Week Network

The aircraft-maker has finished its proposed redesign of older 737 nacelles, but it must analyze maintenance-related errors to help mitigate their risk.
aviationweek.com aviationweek.com
 
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TheDeeble said:
Boeing doesn't maintain the engines. That's up to the airline flying the plane. Airplanes aren't like car companies. Ford, Chevy, Toyota, ect research and manufacture their own engines. If there's an engine problem that's not related to owner neglect and is a defect, then it would go back to that car company as responsible.

Airplanes aren't like that. Boeing builds out the airframes and systems and uses a GE, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls Royce, or CFM engine on it for example and it's delivered. Those are just some of the major engine manufacturures. There are others. But each airline is responsible for checking oils, borescopes, replacing components, fixing problems on that engine over it's life. If there's an engine defect or a manufacturing concern, that's a problem for who made the engine. Not Boeing. All the engine mx procedures the airline follows comes the engine manufacturer. Again, not Boeing.
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There is plenty of low hanging fruit to bash Boeing on and it’s pretty much all self inflicted from what I’ve read. Engine issues isn’t a Boeing problem tho.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
airlines have responsibility for maintenance.

boeing does have responsibilty for design failures.

Boeing Details CFM56-7 Nacelle Inlet And Cowl Redesign Effort | Aviation Week Network

The aircraft-maker has finished its proposed redesign of older 737 nacelles, but it must analyze maintenance-related errors to help mitigate their risk.
aviationweek.com aviationweek.com
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Boeing designed the nacelle with technical assistance from CFM. The pylon and nacelle are a specific case of shared responsibility. In your report the Boeing designed nacelle failed to contain a slung fan blade and somebody died. Boeing isn’t responsible for the engine failure they are responsible for their nacelle design failing to contain the debris emitted by the failed engine.

simpleflying.com

What Are Engine Nacelles And Why Are Some Serrated?

Have you noticed the interesting design on Boeing aircraft?
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