Serious WR discussion

[GVol1966]

I don't think bama will bench Jalen Milroe

It’s happened before

 

[GVol1966]

That's crap. If you have aspirations of playing on Sunday. You're the WR, you go make plays on the ball whether it's good, bad and ugly. You're not getting perfect throws every time and if it hits your hands you need to pull it in more often than you drop it. Big time players make big plays.

Yep. Did y’all see the FSU portal WR have to jump, reach up with one hand and pull in the high pass?
And many more around the ncaa Saturday.

We’re just happy if ours actually catch a ball that’s perfectly thrown.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Yep. Did y’all see the FSU portal WR have to jump, reach up with one hand and pull in the high pass?
And many more around the ncaa Saturday.

We’re just happy if ours actually catch a ball that’s perfectly thrown.

Saw A&M WR make catches on badly tossed passes yesterday because the D pressured him and he was just throwing garbage up yet his WR went and tried making plays by catching the ball.
Still say Squirrel needs to be his first look. He does try, caught that ball last week he said he didn't even seen LOL

 

[GoVols64]

Too many serious discussions aftering winning. I don't care how it happened tonight, this is a quality win. A&M is not trash.

They have a great defense. In many ways we mirror each other with solid D and offensive production that is, well, offensive.

We have to find players that make plays reliably. I’m that sense the criticisms are fair. Still, I agree we should enjoy the win!

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

Good points. However, if the WRs have caught the ones they should have, we would be much better. The WRs have be equally or maybe even more disappointing than Milton. Keyton dropped another TD against TAMU. Thorton, Castles and even Bru dropped passes. Of a ball hits a WR in the hands they should catch it.

Yes to this. If our receivers would just catch most of the few good throws Joe makes would be some big plays there. Really disappointed Thorton is a no show. Had big hopes for him.

 

[KTrain]

Milton was awful today. That said, some of our fans will blame him for the extinction of the white rhino next.

Milton had a bad day but I agree with you. Take this one play for instance, the catch Keyton made vs UF last year where he dove extended his arms/hands and made a miraculous catch. Everyone said Sports center #1 play baby, great catch. If that same play happened this year, it would be Keyton saved Overthrow Joe, dang that was a mile over his head, boy Joe was lucky on that one.
That's were we are as a fanbase, everything bad will be exaggerated, everything good will be, even blind hog finds a acorn every now and then. Hang on its gonna be wild ride.
The good thing is our D is tons better than last year and deep.

 

[GVol1966]

Saw A&M WR make catches on badly tossed passes yesterday because the D pressured him and he was just throwing garbage up yet his WR went and tried making plays by catching the ball.
Still say Squirrel needs to be his first look. He does try, caught that ball last week he said he didn't even seen LOL

Agree. Squirrel is the best we have. Only problem is he’s like 5’9.
A lot easier to overthrow him than 6’4 guys

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I think it's time to look at benching Keyton

Nimrod and Webb seem more dynamic and dependable

Edit: now that game starts are out...

In the last 3 games Keyton has been targeted 12 times. In these 12 opportunities he has only 3 receptions for 73 yards 1td. Also has 0 contested catches and dropped an easy TD.

We'll see what Heupel does this week. Keyton made some big catches for us last year. Hard to bench him over a couple of drops

 

[temptn]

It appears to me that the receivers give up if it is not thrown perfectly to them, sometimes they give up when it is thrown perfectly to them. Last year if it was overthrown the receivers would turn on the afterburners and at least make an attempt to catch it.

 

[vegasvolfan]

I think it's time to look at benching Keyton

Nimrod and Webb seem more dynamic and dependable

Edit: now that game starts are out...

In the last 3 games Keyton has been targeted 12 times. In these 12 opportunities he has only 3 receptions for 73 yards 1td. Also has 0 contested catches and dropped an easy TD.

Let’s not forget what Keyton has done for us. I would like to see how he responds.

 

[TENNESSEESLIM]

Thornton wasn’t out there was he? Don’t recall seeing him. Assuming he’s still dinged up.

Yeah he was active. It was him that stonehanded that pass from Milton that popped up and was caught by Castles.

 

[JRich]

That's crap. If you have aspirations of playing on Sunday. You're the WR, you go make plays on the ball whether it's good, bad and ugly. You're not getting perfect throws every time and if it hits your hands you need to pull it in more often than you drop it. Big time players make big plays.

“That’s crap.”

Brilliant analysis.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

“That’s crap.”

Brilliant analysis.

I try

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Players gotta make plays, be it the receiver or quarterback. Quarterbacks have to hit open recievers and recievers have to catch balls that hit them in the hands. It’s just that simple. Heupel needs to let them know that missing the easy plays isn’t acceptable. GBO

 

[chuck0303]

Hooker threw an easy ball to catch. They don't know the speed or location with Milton. Milton doesn't know

I'm sure it's hard to catch those bullets. Waiting until the last second to throw doesn't help either.

 

[chuck0303]

Why not give Dee a shot at WR?

Not a bad idea. I would think they (coaches) have a good reason for not trying him out there; hope so. Once he gets his hands on the ball he's tough to tackle/catch.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

We need to go get Elic Ayomanor from Stanford in the portal for next year!

There are reasons why players enter the portal. Need to find out why they are there before going fishing.

 

[bpalmer28]

Not a bad idea. I would think they (coaches) have a good reason for not trying him out there; hope so. Once he gets his hands on the ball he's tough to tackle/catch.

He’s been taking reps at WR since the bye week. Only a matter of time

 

[GordonC]

Milton had a bad day but I agree with you. Take this one play for instance, the catch Keyton made vs UF last year where he dove extended his arms/hands and made a miraculous catch. Everyone said Sports center #1 play baby, great catch. If that same play happened this year, it would be Keyton saved Overthrow Joe, dang that was a mile over his head, boy Joe was lucky on that one.
That's were we are as a fanbase, everything bad will be exaggerated, everything good will be, even blind hog finds a acorn every now and then. Hang on its gonna be wild ride.
The good thing is our D is tons better than last year and deep.

absolute truth

 

[bpalmer28]

I have a question. Was it Thornton that had the ball hit him in the chest and it bounced to the TE for a first down late ? If that’s the case he is the worst WR transfer we have had. Maybe it was not him. Need watch replay.

Just watched the replay. Yes, it was #1 Thornton.

 

[bpalmer28]

I don’t recall seeing Thornton even playing. Today

That may have been his only play of the day, but it was him

 

[bpalmer28]

I’ve never been high on Keyton, and I’m not defending his overall play or this drop, because I agree he should have caught it, but something should be said about expecting and preparing for a rifle shot that can either be behind you or in front of you in a split second, and getting thrown a wobbly duck severely under thrown and having to adjust mid stride.

You’re trying too hard to find faults in Milton. There are enough faults already. You don’t have to reach like this to find them. It was a near perfect pass that hit Keyton in stride on a play that Milton got hit in the head as he released the ball. Keyton has to catch that ball no matter if it’s wobbly or not, which I’m not sure if it was.

 

[sjt18]

Well there is being a head case. From my perspective (why 2.0)...... Joe won't keep it on a called RPO. That was evident game 2->3 or so. Most of today's runs were called. So no one honors "the fake". I quit buying it myself a couple games ago, and he doesn't even try to "sell" it much. I didn't buy it today either. Yet we're #1 in rushing? JG didn't convince me either.

How many threads included "he's holding on to the ball too long" comments both lately and years ago. I remember it was a common theme wrt the latter. We heard it again today in the GameDay thread.

He's a second or less late in throwing it, at least on the replays I see. And the commentators independently agree, more than once now. Heard that several times in the JG era. There's not much anticipation on select throws. And like JG....there are easy gains right in front him. He doesn't see it. It happens to all QBs, I get it, but it happens each week. Eerily, similar.

With exception.....and there are some nice ones, Joe's ability to throw someone open runs at a low percentage in throwing vertically. Especially when it counts. It may be a function of being late on some throws. So both suffered and lived a lot on lateral/east-west action. Can't remember asking, during the JG era, if the middle of the field was legal territory......and I wondered again tonight and last week.

And then there's being a head case. I equate it to shining M-F, and not handling the Saturday night lights. One struggled, one is. This running OB on free plays and 4th down or end of games or trying to jump score against Alabama are examples. I've experienced it personally and witnessed it. It is what it is.

I don't want 2.0 to mean a 1:1 equality, but they have more in common than not, IMO. Joe will go to the NFL, just as JG did, no doubt. Regardless, this staff is trying to help Joe succeed, but Joe has to do his part. We'll see what happens. I hope for the best...but many of us have since they kicked off against Virginia.

I don't entirely disagree.

One of Milton's main issues seems to be like you said throwing late. JG did it. Milton makes up for it with pure velocity but that appears to be why so many of those plays are contested. Hooker threw guys open consistently. Milton tries to drill them when they break open. The latter is easier for the opponent and harder for your receivers.

 

[allenfan1]

Ahhhh yes. Milton throws to hard and if a receiver doesn’t catch it it’s Milton’s fault. Milton puts touch on the ball and the receiver doesn’t catch it and, again…it’s Milton’s fault?

Anyone that thinks he is an average QB doesn't know much about football. He can't manage the game. He gave up first downs on two mistakes that a freshman would have known better. His best pass of the day was to their safety for an interception. Think the coaches don't see that, why do we now run on 3rd and 21 and 3rd and 9. Every game we have had to use timeouts because he is at the line with the clock funning down trying to figure out their defense. I agree there have been some dropped balls this year, but not nearly as many as the TERRIBLE throws he makes. If he is our best chance to win then I am behind him all the way, but I'm tired of hearing he is a top level QB, 6 years and still below average

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Keyton is what he is. The fall practice notes were mentioning him having practices were he was struggling with drops.

Why doesn't that same logic apply to Milton? Milton sucks, but Keyton, who drops balls that hit him in the hands "is what he is".

Keyton plays the easiest position in all of football.