Shooter in Chattanooga

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utvolpj said:
So if you disagree with someone's views you should threaten them with guns and/or violence? Interesting
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When it comes to disrespecting men and women who put their lives on the line in hellish conditions, so we can sit in our A/C homes and argue on a message board? Then yes, I personally have no problem with it.
 
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They apparently never showed up. Someone posted that one of their woman leaders told them to come back because security was compromised. There's a lot of info on the page Chattanooga Strong Wall Against Westboro
 
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ACvol3 said:
When they're those views, yes PJ, yes.
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joevol33 said:
When it comes to disrespecting men and women who put their lives on the line in hellish conditions, so we can sit in our A/C homes and argue on a message board? Then yes, I personally have no problem with it.
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So only popular speech should be protected? Our soldiers only defend the Constitutional rights of some?

These comments are sadly becoming way too common. You don't have to listen but they should have the right to speak without fear of death from some gun-toting idiot
 
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utvolpj said:
So only popular speech should be protected? Our soldiers only defend the Constitutional rights of some?

These comments are sadly becoming way too common. You don't have to listen but they should have the right to speak without fear of death from some gun-toting idiot
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I never said they didn't have the right. As a matter of fact, I was talking to my kids earlier today telling them I hated what they done, but they have a right. My personal opinion however, is I wish somebody would bust their mouth. You think they have a right, so I have the right to my opinion. I'm just confused by your defense of them, and opposition to the soldiers carrying a gun. Not once, and I apologize if I missed it, have you been judgemental of the actual terrorist. You've not cried about him having a gun, but fuss everybody out who thinks the soldiers should have that right. You get upset over people saying you're liberal, but in your own words it sounds that way. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I hold our military in high esteem. These terrorist killing them, and yahoos being disrespectful at their memorials bother me. I'm sorry in your thinking, that none of that is a problem, but soldiers protecting themselves is.
 
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joevol33 said:
I never said they didn't have the right.
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Yes you did by supporting those who wish to do them harm since that would be eliminating their rights

joevol33 said:
Not once, and I apologize if I missed it, have you been judgemental of the actual terrorist.
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One of the most ridiculous comments you could possibly make. So if I don't state it directly you assume I have some kind of support for the act? Good grief, some people have the ability to comment on more than one idea at a time
joevol33 said:
, but fuss everybody out who thinks the soldiers should have that right.
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That's an outright lie. In fact, your entire post was pretty much wrong
 
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utvolpj said:
Yes you did by supporting those who wish to do them harm since that would be eliminating their rights


One of the most ridiculous comments you could possibly make. So if I don't state it directly you assume I have some kind of support for the act? Good grief, some people have the ability to comment on more than one idea at a time
That's an outright lie. In fact, your entire post was pretty much a pile
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So you didn't quote people and argue that if soldiers had guns it would've caused more problems? Must've been another guy with the same name as you. And sorry it bothers me that people will fuss about soldiers carrying weapons, and people upset over westboro, but never say a word about the actual terrorist who caused all of this. But hey, your right man, I must've misunderstood all those things I read. You don't have to say anything to me, but I'd like to see more people bothered by the terrorist than the other stuff. JMO, I apologize that obviously I took all the comments the wrong way. And I apologize for disagreeing about the soldiers. I guess they should just be helpless.
 
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I'll quit arguing, because we're not gonna agree about this. You have a right to your opinion, and I have mine. I've lost people I loved to these terrorist, and its just more personal to me. I honestly hope you never experience that, because it'll make you feel different, or it did me anyway.
 
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utvolpj said:
So only popular speech should be protected? Our soldiers only defend the Constitutional rights of some?

These comments are sadly becoming way too common. You don't have to listen but they should have the right to speak without fear of death from some gun-toting idiot
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They surely should be protected from death. That doesn't mean we can't be slow to react when they start getting their asses beat.
 
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GAVol said:
They surely should be protected from death. That doesn't mean we can't be slow to react when they start getting their asses beat.
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Actually that's exactly what it means since you never know who might be beaten next. I didn't realize rights were so conditional now
 
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utvolpj said:
Actually that's exactly what it means since you never know who might be beaten next. I didn't realize rights were so conditional now
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Quit being a little ***** and take your nonsense somewhere else. Have some respect for those that just lost their lives.
 
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utvolpj said:
Actually that's exactly what it means since you never know who might be beaten next. I didn't realize rights were so conditional now
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Rights aren't conditional and neither is the consequence of getting your butt kicked after you've incited a riot which is what Westboro does when they troll a funeral full of mourners. It's the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater.
 
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joevol33 said:
So you didn't quote people and argue that if soldiers had guns it would've caused more problems? Must've been another guy with the same name as you. And sorry it bothers me that people will fuss about soldiers carrying weapons, and people upset over westboro, but never say a word about the actual terrorist who caused all of this. But hey, your right man, I must've misunderstood all those things I read. You don't have to say anything to me, but I'd like to see more people bothered by the terrorist than the other stuff. JMO, I apologize that obviously I took all the comments the wrong way. And I apologize for disagreeing about the soldiers. I guess they should just be helpless.
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No I never said what you're claiming. I simply asked if more people shooting automatically made a situation safer. I never said they shouldn't have the right to carry and actually made that pretty clear since I knew someone would get confused

The fact you've not read me condemning the shooter is irrelevant anyway. If you go back I called it a terrorist act from the beginning.
 
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People have the right to free speech in this country.

People also have the right to disagree with other people in this country.

As far as I've seen, nobody from Westboro has been harmed. I'm not sure what the issue is. Seems they know what is good for them.
 
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GAVol said:
Rights aren't conditional and neither is the consequence of getting your butt kicked after you've incited a riot which is what Westboro does when they troll a funeral. It's the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater.
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It's not causing a panic. It's a handful of stupid people described as irrelevant by most holding signs a ways away from a funeral. You and I both know the people doing the butt kicking of someone exercising their constitutional rights are the same complaining about the libs in DC trampling their rights.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's not causing a panic. It's stupid people described as irrelevant by most holding signs a ways away from a funeral. You and I both know the people doing the button kicking of someone exercising their constitutional rights are the same complaining about the libs in DC trampling their rights.
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It's not causing panic... until it has pissed off enough people over time that the mere spectre of them coming to town creates large unstable crowds.

I agree with you in principle, but I don't think they're on as solid ground as you do.
 
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