Should Clowney sit?

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#52
Oh look, the former future #1 pick in the NBA Draft for 2013 just tore his knee and lost a good chuck of change.
 
#55
#55
All parties benefit. The schools make their money and the players get to train, improve their game and essentially audition for NFL teams. There's no other place the players can showcase their talents. So saying they're indentured servants is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.
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#56
#56
You can easily tell who played football in this thread and the ones who didn't.
Simple- You don't abandon your brothers.

Also, he can still get hurt if he sits out? What if he gets into a car accident? Injuries happen... it's part of sports. Clowney will still be a top 5 pick
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
You can easily tell who played football in this thread and the ones who didn't.
Simple- You don't abandon your brothers.

Also, he can still get hurt if he sits out? What if he gets into a car accident? Injuries happen... it's part of sports. Clowney will still be a top 5 pick
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So if he leaves after his Junior year he's not abandoning his brothers?

His chances of getting injured go down astronomically if he doesn't play football, that's not really a question.
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
You can easily tell who played football in this thread and the ones who didn't.
Simple- You don't abandon your brothers.

Also, he can still get hurt if he sits out? What if he gets into a car accident? Injuries happen... it's part of sports. Clowney will still be a top 5 pick
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You can tell easily the ones who did play football never had a shot to make millions of dollars and trying to judge a 20 year old for not "loving" the game.

And if he decided to sit out to play, his "brothers" should support him so he can have a better life.
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
You can easily tell who played football in this thread and the ones who didn't.
Simple- You don't abandon your brothers.

Also, he can still get hurt if he sits out? What if he gets into a car accident? Injuries happen... it's part of sports. Clowney will still be a top 5 pick
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What a bunch of happy horseshat. Eric Berry left a team that desperately needed him to go get paid. Did he "abandon his brothers"?
 
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VolBeef88 said:
All parties benefit. The schools make their money and the players get to train, improve their game and essentially audition for NFL teams. There's no other place the players can showcase their talents. So saying they're indentured servants is a bit of a stretch to put it mildly.
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Marcus Lattimore really benefited from an extra year of college that he didn't need, didn't he?
 
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vols4evah said:
just saw this and dont think its been posted yet.

Clowney joins list of future NFL players insuring future - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN
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Richard "Big Daddy" Salgado, the president of Coastal Advisors LLC, told FOXSports.com that “a member of Clowney’s camp” inquired with his company about obtaining a policy worth as much as $5 million in case of a catastrophic injury that prematurely ends his playing career in 2013. Coastal Advisors has insured and guided 35 other top college prospects over the past 15 years in similar fashion, Salgado said.
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As much as FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. Wow. That'll definitely lessen the sting of not getting a $25 million contract if he gets badly hurt.
 
#62
#62
It's different if your a eligible junior..... but to just sit out and do your own thing as a sophomore? i don't like that, just imo.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
As much as FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. Wow. That'll definitely lessen the sting of not getting a $25 million contract if he gets badly hurt.
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I'm sure the sting of settling for AT MOST 20% of what he had the potential to earn will be greatly assuaged by the fact that he didn't abandon his brothers.

Seriously though, anybody want to reconsider their position on this one after the presumed #1 pick in this year's NBA draft blew out his knee and potentially lost millions last night? Or should he still just be playing for the love of the game, raking in millions for the UKAD and be grateful that UK is "giving" him an education that MIGHT allow him to make 50k a year when he graduates.
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
It's different if your a eligible junior..... but to just sit out and do your own thing as a sophomore? i don't like that, just imo.
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What's different about it? Berry made a business decision and put his pro career over his "brothers." Clowney just watched at least $15 million dollars evaporate for a teammate. I'd be shocked if he didn't risk it but I wouldn't blame him at all.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
What's different about it? Berry made a business decision and put his pro career over his "brothers." Clowney just watched at least $15 million dollars evaporate for a teammate. I'd be shocked if he didn't risk it but I wouldn't blame him at all.
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Berry was draft eligible, Clowney isn't right now. There's a lot of "What ifs" in this situation. I just think he should play ball with SC another year.
You can't run away from injuries..... He could get hurt away from the field.
 
#66
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SWFLvol33 said:
Berry was draft eligible, Clowney isn't right now. There's a lot of "What ifs" in this situation. I just think he should play ball with SC another year.
You can't run away from injuries..... He could get hurt away from the field.
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Sure he could get hurt away from the field, but the odds that he suffers a catastrophic career altering/ending injury like Lattimore suffered are almost zero. With that kind of massive payday on the horizon, it's almost irresponsible of him to play another season for free. Even if sitting out a year caused him to fall from the #1 overall pick down into the 5-10 range, isn't making a couple million less over the life of a rookie contract a hell of a lot better option than risk playing and hurting himself to the point that he ends up just having to quit football and spend the rest of his life working an "average joe" job and having never earned a dime for his considerable gifts?
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Sure he could get hurt away from the field, but the odds that he suffers a catastrophic career altering/ending injury like Lattimore suffered are almost zero. With that kind of massive payday on the horizon, it's almost irresponsible of him to play another season for free. Even if sitting out a year caused him to fall from the #1 overall pick down into the 5-10 range, isn't making a couple million less over the life of a rookie contract a hell of a lot better option than risk playing and hurting himself to the point that he ends up just having to quit football and spend the rest of his life working an "average joe" job and having never earned a dime for his considerable gifts?
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I get what you're saying but IMO there's no way he just gets a "average job" someone would take care of him
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
I get what you're saying but IMO there's no way he just gets a "average job" someone would take care of him
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I agree that he won't end up broke and homeless, but there's nobody out there who's going to feel sorry enough for him to take care of him to the tune of the way he's about to be able to take care of himself, and his current and future generations of his family.
 
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SWFLvol33 said:
Berry was draft eligible, Clowney isn't right now. There's a lot of "What ifs" in this situation. I just think he should play ball with SC another year.
You can't run away from injuries..... He could get hurt away from the field.
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I don't understand why you think that makes a difference. Berry quit playing football for free as soon as he needed to. Clowney doesn't need to anymore. Why should an arbitrary NFL rule make Clowney a quitter and Berry not?

He could quit tomorrow, secure an agent, and have several million dollars' worth of advance in his pocket this weekend. Why should he wait a year and risk $15-20 million to play for free? If someone told me I'd get a $20 million check in a year as long as I kept from getting hurt the whole time, I'm not sure I'd ever leave my house.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I don't understand why you think that makes a difference. Berry quit playing football for free as soon as he needed to. Clowney doesn't need to anymore. Why should an arbitrary NFL rule make Clowney a quitter and Berry not?

He could quit tomorrow, secure an agent, and have several million dollars' worth of advance in his pocket this weekend. Why should he wait a year and risk $15-20 million to play for free? If someone told me I'd get a $20 million check in a year as long as I kept from getting hurt the whole time, I'm not sure I'd ever leave my house.
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I don't like the idea of just sitting out when your not draft eligible. I know i know "but if he sits out he could earn tons of money", Like I said JMO.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I'm sure the sting of settling for AT MOST 20% of what he had the potential to earn will be greatly assuaged by the fact that he didn't abandon his brothers.

Seriously though, anybody want to reconsider their position on this one after the presumed #1 pick in this year's NBA draft blew out his knee and potentially lost millions last night? Or should he still just be playing for the love of the game, raking in millions for the UKAD and be grateful that UK is "giving" him an education that MIGHT allow him to make 50k a year when he graduates.
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If a student-athlete at UK, with all the academic resources at his/her disposal, can't graduate and utilize his/her UK degree (and network) to eventually earn a job paying at least 50K a year...then that student athlete is dumber than a sack of bricks.

And yes, I realize there are a good number of student-athletes out there who have no business being in college.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
If a student-athlete at UK, with all the academic resources at his/her disposal, can't graduate and utilize his/her UK degree (and network) to eventually earn a job paying at least 50K a year...then that student athlete is dumber than a sack of bricks.

And yes, I realize there are a good number of student-athletes out there who have no business being in college.
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Eventually, yes. However, at this moment Clowney has the potential to leave SC and earn $5M+ per year even if he never plays another down for the Gamecocks. With the way the economy is going, if all he did was graduate with a bachelor's degree there a real possibility that he'd be heading back to live with his parents and have no job prospects on his immediate horizon.
 
#74
#74
I laugh at the thought that college football players don't benefit GREATLY from playing college ball.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
I laugh at the thought that college football players don't benefit GREATLY from playing college ball.
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They benefit from it because that's all there is. If college football didn't exist, the NFL would have to run some kind of a developmental league to evaluate talented but young players, and they'd "benefit" from that instead. There's no reason the NFL's only scouting and development mechanism has to be "prospects playing for free while going through the motions of being college students."
 
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