Six to 10?

#51
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sjt18 said:
I understand what you are trying to say and respectfully disagree unless you are saying that the coaches they've had were terrible coaches.

If someone was saying this proves UT should have won the SEC... then I'd agree with your argument. But I don't when we're talking about losing to Vandy and not even getting off the bus for 4 blow out losses.
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Bruh, ur arguing a losing battle. Brush up on your knowlege
 
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#52
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VFL34 said:
If you pretty much aren't that good in college but you attend lets say notre dame, and u started or played in all the games. You will get a combine invite. That's politics. It's about who knows u an who they know. For instance as a halfback, i ran a 4.6 in te combine. Benched 225 only 15 times, now if I had played for firman, with those numbers I am going Undrafted, but because I played for a major university I got picked in the 4th round
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So NFL teams are intentionally drafting guys they know won't help them win?

Gotcha.
 
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sjt18 said:
Palardy will get a chance to punt for an NFL team. He may not be drafted however.

I was surprised to see J Smith listed there too... and surprised that Miller wasn't mentioned.
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why? Miller did very little his first few years and without the UK game his name would quickly be forgotten. He just wasn't an impact player. Smith's inclusion was simply a hometown shout-out
 
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sjt18 said:
I'll do what I like until Freak says not to. I'll breakdown your post to the syllable if I want. And I could absolutely care less what justification or "credentials" you drop in an effort to excuse subpar coaching.

I am not saying that they cannot coach. I am not saying they will not do better. I hope they can and do. But they DID NOT get the potential out of the '13 roster.
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Ok. Your right. I look forward to your combine times. You know way more than us.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yep... that's the number of departing Vol football players this analyst says could be drafted:

NFL draft analyst: 6-10 Vols could be drafted in 2014 | Nooga.com

So that begs the question... how can a team with "no talent" or insufficient talent to beat Vandy put that many guys in the NFL?


Interesting quote to say the least: "It’s amazing that a team not bowl-eligible has this many potential draftees, but Tennessee could easily have 6-10 draft picks,” he said.
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This year was no surprise that we didn't make a bowl due to the lack of skill players. What is sad and amazing is that the 2012 team didn't make a bowl game even though at least 8 players from that team were drafted including the QB, 3 receivers and the TE.
 
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dovervolz said:
You might ought to check again. Stopping the other team from scoring touchdowns does win games. It's called defense. Also Tiny and Juwuan blocked for those that did score.
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what is defense precious ?

AJ and Dan did a great job stopping Oregon / Alabama / Auburn / Georgia / Florida / Mizzou / South Alabama .


Point I was making .... Need skill players to win football games and these guys going into the draft are not skill players. Don't get me wrong here they are decent prospects at their positions.

Tiny and Juwuan can pass block but as far as run blocking they need some work on moving d line out da way.
 
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sjt18 said:
So NFL teams are intentionally drafting guys they know won't help them win?

Gotcha.
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I did not say that. I was explaining politics. U won't understand until your an athlete being invited to the combine
 
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sjt18 said:
Yep... that's the number of departing Vol football players this analyst says could be drafted:

NFL draft analyst: 6-10 Vols could be drafted in 2014 | Nooga.com

So that begs the question... how can a team with "no talent" or insufficient talent to beat Vandy put that many guys in the NFL?


Interesting quote to say the least: "It’s amazing that a team not bowl-eligible has this many potential draftees, but Tennessee could easily have 6-10 draft picks,” he said.
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I think most understand why this is, or maybe happening. Like the reasons LWS mentioned. There are legit reasons. Hell Saban almost did the same thing in an easier situation. He went 6-6 his first year with more talent and had players drafted. It takes at least a year, plus we could clearly see where our problem areas were this year. Kinda like last year, we had a lot of NFL talent on offense but not defense. We lost due to the defense not overall talent.
 
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VFL34 said:
I did not say that. I was explaining politics. U won't understand until your an athlete being invited to the combine
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So you are saying that guys who could lose their jobs for not getting the best players are allowing politics with college players to jeopardize their careers... You may not like how it sounds in plain terms but that's the net result of what you are saying.
 
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Let me explain something. These players such as Neal, palardy turned around the way they played this year. That is coaching. Miller played his butt off, best year of his career. That's coaching. So what ever your argument is, is ridiculous. Get over vandy. Bottom line is that vandy has had consistency in recruiting and coaching the past three years. They are better than us.
 
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oregonvol said:
See this is the problem with Excusavols. It has to be all or nothing. It has to be that Butch is our lord and savior and he couldn't have possibly have lost a game to a less talented team or been out-coached...otherwise he must be fired.

The thing is, those of us who want to hold coaches accountable and criticize them when they perform poorly, aren't suggesting he be fired or that he can't coach at all or any of those things. It's the posivols/Vollyannas/excusavols/coach-worshippers who seem only able to deal in extremes.

It's important to hold a magnifying glass up to mistakes and failures. It is important to recognize them as such and discuss them openly. Problems rarely get fixed when everyone wants to pretend they don't exist.
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We're going to fix team problems by discussing them on a message board?
 
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VFL34 said:
Ur an argumentative one I can see. Ur entitled to your opinion. I will stay entitled to my facts.
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You aren't pointing to any facts... and are being argumentative. I have not questioned your intelligence or tried to pick a fight with you. You've done that. I have challenged your opinion and asked you to back up your reasoning.
 
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oregonvol said:
Do you think Florida fans are happy with the job their coaches did this year?
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Nope but if you read the rest of the post my point was to say talent isnt everything and confidence and being a genuine team is, but talent helps a ton.

You picked out the part that agrees most with your point of view and took it out of context, Dooley recruited players that were talented and were his type of players, and CBJ wants his type of players. Some players will transform well others won't. And the reason they will or will not has nothing to do with talent. They just get it or they don't. Some of the ones leaving got it but quite a few of them simply were not fits in the game plan CBJ runs but they were immensely talented. There is a difference.
 
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sjt18 said:
So you are saying that guys who could lose their jobs for not getting the best players are allowing politics with college players to jeopardize their careers... You may not like how it sounds in plain terms but that's the net result of what you are saying.
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U don't or will never get it. You never played and u for sure have never been in the NFL. Ur twisting around my examples homey. U need to chill ur lil man syndrome out
 
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VFL34 said:
If you pretty much aren't that good in college but you attend lets say notre dame, and u started or played in all the games. You will get a combine invite. That's politics. It's about who knows u an who they know. For instance as a halfback, i ran a 4.6 in te combine. Benched 225 only 15 times, now if I had played for firman, with those numbers I am going Undrafted, but because I played for a major university I got picked in the 4th round
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hayden or stephens?
 
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VFL34 said:
Let me explain something. These players such as Neal, palardy turned around the way they played this year. That is coaching. Miller played his butt off, best year of his career. That's coaching. So what ever your argument is, is ridiculous.
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AH, I get it now. You've made up your mind and don't want to be bothered with reasoning or evidence that might challenge your conclusion.

Get over vandy. Bottom line is that vandy has had consistency in recruiting and coaching the past three years. They are better than us.
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Wow... just wow. :no:
 
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VFL34 said:
U don't or will never get it. You never played and u for sure have never been in the NFL. Ur twisting around my examples homey. U need to chill ur lil man syndrome out
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LOL... If you only knew how absolutely ridiculous everything you posted is...
 
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