Skyler McBee

[bleedingTNorange]

He's playing because he's doing what he's supposed to do. He's a 3-pt specialist & he gives it his all on the court. He's playing better right now than several other guys on this team. The exceptions are Maymonne & Golden but he's even doing better than Golden at times.

I never thought I would say this but McBee has become a better defensive player than Golden. McBee might foul a lot but he does hustle on every trip defensively. You can't say the same for Golden!

:lolabove:

 

[cncchris33]

if skylar was a consistant shooter at 40% id be fine but heres my problem...

23% on the road
30% in sec play

thats not good at all no matter how you wanna spin it

I don't disagree, but that wasn't my point. My point is, there exists this belief that McBee was some super-shooter coming in and some fans expected every shot he put up to go in. He can't create his own shot. He can't shoot over taller defenders, and he never has been a "great" shooter. He is an above average shooter who needs help getting his shot off. He is extremely limited in every other phase of the game.

39% is good for an above average shooter, but given his limitations elsewhere and the misperception that he was ever an elite-level shooter draws the ire of portions of the fanbase.

 

[VOLinPD]

Ever notice that only slow white people have heart?

Muggsy Bogues disagrees.

 

[Spartacavolus]

no im not backing up PLEASE show me where i said he should play zero minutes and that ccm is an idiot for playing him at all...

i'll wait...:whistling:

If I or someone is an idiot and douche for pointing out any positives Skylar may bring and why he is playing, as you said last night, CCM must be as well because the reasons I mention are his reasons for playing McBee, and the reason he played 30 minutes last game.

I don't recall saying you said Skylar should have zero minutes. I don't think I have typed the word zero until this paragraph. There are posters here that think he should be on the end of the bench. The fact is, they are watching a different game and processing the action in a way that I don't understand.

The kid isn't really that good of a player, but he gets butchered on here from people that see a missed shot or blow by. Basketball is more than that. A lot more. But many can only focus on the obvious, and not consider: running through screens, boxing out, making the D honest, passing angles to the block, handling the ball ok when needed, getting your hands on loose balls, fighting for the ball when you do get a hand on it, deflections, help D, staying within the game plan and your role. Those that call me an idiot for seeing the ancillary things that players do or don't do need to study the game a little more before commenting.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I don't disagree, but that wasn't my point. My point is, there exists this belief that McBee was some super-shooter coming in and some fans expected every shot he put up to go in. He can't create his own shot. He can't shoot over taller defenders, and he never has been a "great" shooter. He is an above average shooter who needs help getting his shot off. He is extremely limited in every other phase of the game.

39% is good for an above average shooter, but given his limitations elsewhere and the misperception that he was ever an elite-level shooter draws the ire of portions of the fanbase.

i agree with you people thought he would come in and while not be the player lofton was would shoot from 3 the way that lofton did, and thats not gonna happen.

heres my complaint though, as you said he really cant do anything except spot up. if thats all you can do then you should be pretty damn good at it when you get the chance to do it, 40% i couuld live with if it was CONSISTENT. the problem i have is i dont see him as a 39% 3 point shooter right now, he hasnt shot that well ONE time in sec play. thats like us saying jordan mcrae is a 25 ppg player because he did it early in the season against lesser teams, i just kind of dismiss pre conference games largely. when you do that you get mcbee as a 28% 3 point shooter and that isnt good for ANYONE.

 

[cncchris33]

i agree with you people thought he would come in and while not be the player lofton was would shoot from 3 the way that lofton did, and thats not gonna happen.

heres my complaint though, as you said he really cant do anything except spot up. if thats all you can do then you should be pretty damn good at it when you get the chance to do it, 40% i couuld live with if it was CONSISTENT. the problem i have is i dont see him as a 39% 3 point shooter right now, he hasnt shot that well ONE time in sec play. thats like us saying jordan mcrae is a 25 ppg player because he did it early in the season against lesser teams, i just kind of dismiss pre conference games largely. when you do that you get mcbee as a 28% 3 point shooter and that isnt good for ANYONE.

I agree. Consistency has been the fool's gold of nearly every player on this team. Just when you think the light has come on for someone, they go into the fog.

 

[Spartacavolus]

He's playing because he's doing what he's supposed to do. He's a 3-pt specialist & he gives it his all on the court. He's playing better right now than several other guys on this team. The exceptions are Maymonne & Golden but he's even doing better than Golden at times.

I never thought I would say this but McBee has become a better defensive player than Golden. McBee might foul a lot but he does hustle on every trip defensively. You can't say the same for Golden!

Another reason why CCM started him. Trae isn't as aware, has lapses and doesn't fight through picks as well as Skylar. CM preferred that McBee chase Ware early and make him work. He kept up and had his hand in his face. They were just hot. It happens.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

If I or someone is an idiot and douche for pointing out any positives Skylar may bring and why he is playing, as you said last night, CCM must be as well because the reasons I mention are his reasons for playing McBee, and the reason he played 30 minutes last game.

I don't recall saying you said Skylar should have zero minutes. I don't think I have typed the word zero until this paragraph. There are posters here that think he should be on the end of the bench. The fact is, they are watching a different game and processing the action in a way that I don't understand.

The kid isn't really that good of a player, but he gets butchered on here from people that see a missed shot or blow by. Basketball is more than that. A lot more. But many can only focus on the obvious, and not consider: running through screens, boxing out, making the D honest, passing angles to the block, handling the ball ok when needed, getting your hands on loose balls, fighting for the ball when you do get a hand on it, deflections, help D, staying within the game plan and your role. Those that call me an idiot for seeing the ancillary things that players do or don't do need to study the game a little more before commenting.

listen accept my apology or not i shouldnt have called you a douche and i am sorry for it. as i said already though, i am not questioning why ccm plays mcbee because i get that, i am more questioning why skylar is not a better shooter, that is my problem with him. he is going to be limited there is nothing that can be done about that, but with this team we need a 3 point shooter and he's our best option, and thats what he's supposed to do and 28% in conference games is just not good enough in my opinion. if he were to hit more of his 3's i think, as ive already said, that many would give the guy a break on defense, but when you contribute nothing offensively and get beat on defense people are going to raise questions.

when i wrote up that other long post and you replie beep beep beep beep to you are insinuating im backing up my stance. i dont get how you get that from what i said, to the best of my knowledge my stance on skylar has been this for awhile...

his job is to be a spot of 3 point shooter, he needs to knock down his shots with around a 40-45% to really help this team. i know, as most should realize too, he just is going to be limited defensively everyone has known that since day 1 it shouldnt be a surprise anymore. with that said, if he is doing his job on the offensive end i can deal with the defense because i think our help defense can make up the difference in what we gain if he is shooting a good % from 3. however, imo if he is not shooting at a good % then he really is more of a liability to this team.

 

[CAVol]

The huge problem with this forum, at least in the 2 years I've been reading here, are the over hyping and expectations placed on some players. That's exactly the problem with Mcbee. He was so hyped coming in that there was no way for him to live up to those expectations.

 

[volroadwarrior]

yeah moron...my question was WHAT could they possible see in him. I'm wondering what I'm missing. You seriously must not watch basketball
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The one yelling moron is the moron. The coach sees value in the way he plays versus his other choices. If you were so great you could be coaching instead of complaining.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Another reason why CCM started him. Trae isn't as aware, has lapses and doesn't fight through picks as well as Skylar. CM preferred that McBee chase Ware early and make him work. He kept up and had his hand in his face. They were just hot. It happens.

honest question:

you think mcbee is a better defender than golden?

 

[Spartacavolus]

His shot is hitchy again. It wasn't earlier in the year. Too many moving parts as he jumps, pulls the ball up, changes the angle, then releases. It needs to be all one piece to be consistent. That's also a reason why his release is slow. Too much prep to launch.

 

[cncchris33]

The huge problem with this forum, at least in the 2 years I've been reading here, are the over hyping and expectations placed on some players. That's exactly the problem with Mcbee. He was so hyped coming in that there was no way for him to live up to those expectations.

Bingo

 

[tonybologna]

The huge problem with this forum, at least in the 2 years I've been reading here, are the over hyping and expectations placed on some players. That's exactly the problem with Mcbee. He was so hyped coming in that there was no way for him to live up to those expectations.

Hyped? He was a walk-on bud! He was hyped just because he was a local kid signing with UT. He was limited in his ability. He's now showed that he can provide more than just a 3-pt specialist.

People on these boards just can't accept that for some reason. He's become a pretty solid player for us. He's playing quite a bit better than most guys right now. I wished people would give this kid some credit!

Is it because he's white & non-athletic or what? It's time for people to accept that he's become a major factor on this team now.

His shot is hitchy again. It wasn't earlier in the year. Too many moving parts as he jumps, pulls the ball up, changes the angle, then releases. It needs to be all one piece to be consistent. That's also a reason why his release is slow. Too much prep to launch.

Who are you talking bout here? McBee,Richardson,or Golden? I think Richardson has the worst shot of these 3 players. McBee has the best shooting form of anybody on the team!

 

[CAVol]

Hyped? He was a walk-on bud! He was hyped just because he was a local kid signing with UT. He was limited in his ability. He's now showed that he can provide more than just a 3-pt specialist.

People on these boards just can't accept that for some reason. He's become a pretty solid player for us. He's playing quite a bit better than most guys right now. I wished people would give this kid some credit!

Is it because he's white & non-athletic or what? It's time for people to accept that he's become a major factor on this team now.

He was definitely hyped on here. His 3 point shooting especially. You just may not remember.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

His shot is hitchy again. It wasn't earlier in the year. Too many moving parts as he jumps, pulls the ball up, changes the angle, then releases. It needs to be all one piece to be consistent. That's also a reason why his release is slow. Too much prep to launch.

regardless of what it is he needs to get it fixed. this is JMO, but i remember before the year him being talked about hitting 90% in practice, i know this doesnt translate im just saying. also if you look at his stats throughout the year he is a great shooter at home but doesnt take it on the road...

at home: 47%
on the road: 19%

the kid CAN shoot, i dont know if it is mental or what it is, but you dont shoot 47% at home by accident.

 

[tonybologna]

He was definitely hyped on here. His 3 point shooting especially. You just may not remember.

No, I remember his hype on here but this was strictly because he's a local kid. He wasn't hyped nationally at all!

Signing as a walk-on doesn't have any expectations period. It was all due to him being local & signing with UT. That was the only thing making it a big deal for McBee in regards to expectations.

 

[Spartacavolus]

honest question:

you think mcbee is a better defender than golden?

--when switching to a taller defender, yes
--when fighting through picks, much better
--when boxing out his man, yes
--with getting deflections and loose balls, yes
--when one on one with no help, they both get blown by.

If you take all aspects into consideration, is there a question? If CM needs to stop a scorer and only has the 2 options, he is picking Skylar right now. If trae's focus and defensive intensity was better, it may be different.

 

[CAVol]

No, I remember his hype on here but this was strictly because he's a local kid. He wasn't hyped nationally at all!

Signing as a walk-on doesn't have any expectations period. It was all due to him being local & signing with UT. That was the only thing making it a big deal for McBee in regards to expectations.

I was talking about the hype on this board. Not nationally lol

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Hyped? He was a walk-on bud! He was hyped just because he was a local kid signing with UT. He was limited in his ability. He's now showed that he can provide more than just a 3-pt specialist.

People on these boards just can't accept that for some reason. He's become a pretty solid player for us. He's playing quite a bit better than most guys right now. I wished people would give this kid some credit!

Is it because he's white & non-athletic or what? It's time for people to accept that he's become a major factor on this team now.


i really dont know whether to laugh, or are you being serious?

1. what can he provide more than 3
2. a solid player? he isnt one of our top 5 players, as far as contributors on the team
3. a major factor?

 

[bleedingTNorange]

--when switching to a taller defender, yes
--when fighting through picks, much better
--when boxing out his man, yes
--with getting deflections and loose balls, yes
--when one on one with no help, they both get blown by.

If you take all aspects into consideration, is there a question? If CM needs to stop a scorer and only has the 2 options, he is picking Skylar right now. If trae's focus and defensive intensity was better, it may be different.

so why did mcbee get pulled and golden play the rest of the game at pg, except for 1 minute at the start of the half?

 

[tonybologna]

Hyped? He was a walk-on bud! He was hyped just because he was a local kid signing with UT. He was limited in his ability. He's now showed that he can provide more than just a 3-pt specialist.

People on these boards just can't accept that for some reason. He's become a pretty solid player for us. He's playing quite a bit better than most guys right now. I wished people would give this kid some credit!

Is it because he's white & non-athletic or what? It's time for people to accept that he's become a major factor on this team now.


i really dont know whether to laugh, or are you being serious?

1. what can he provide more than 3
2. a solid player? he isnt one of our top 5 players, as far as contributors on the team
3. a major factor?

Do you now know how to use the Quotes? LOL!

Do you not see that others are also seeing what I see in McBee? I'm not arguing with you about this anymore! He's playing well & better than a lot of our players right now. It's a fact & people need to accept that period!

 

[Spartacavolus]

Hyped? He was a walk-on bud! He was hyped just because he was a local kid signing with UT. He was limited in his ability. He's now showed that he can provide more than just a 3-pt specialist.

People on these boards just can't accept that for some reason. He's become a pretty solid player for us. He's playing quite a bit better than most guys right now. I wished people would give this kid some credit!

Is it because he's white & non-athletic or what? It's time for people to accept that he's become a major factor on this team now.



Who are you talking bout here? McBee,Richardson,or Golden? I think Richardson has the worst shot of these 3 players. McBee has the best shooting form of anybody on the team!

Mcbee has the best release, but too many things have to happen for him to get to the release right now. The more moving parts, the more inconsistent shot. I also notice his shot looking different on a shot to shot basis.
Trae has got a head lean that kills me. Can't believe it hasn't been corrected yet. Leaning your head during the shot makes the rim a moving target

 

[Vols4us]

Some of the same ones trashing McBee are the apologists for Dooley. Go figure.

McBee is a walk-on SHOOTING GUARD. That is different than a 4* highly recruited PG - duh! He is playing out of position and giving 100%. Everybody wants to apologize for Golden since it is his first full year at PG, but you want to put down McBee for trying to do something Golden can't even do and that's play defense on quick PGs. Do you want 50-60% FT shooters at the foul line at the end of games? Do you want 20% 3 point shooters trying them when McBee is at 40%? Some of you need to take a dose of reality.

 

[Vols4us]

Mcbee has the best release, but too many things have to happen for him to get to the release right now. The more moving parts, the more inconsistent shot. I also notice his shot looking different on a shot to shot basis.
Trae has got a head lean that kills me. Can't believe it hasn't been corrected yet. Leaning your head during the shot makes the rim a moving target

Really good, accurate observations.