So much Tennessee flavor on this staff.

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Volholic said:
Cincy has the best staff money can buy! Who knew?
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If you are going to a new offensive system then who better to teach it to players that have not run it than the coaches that have been running it and coaching it for the last 3 to 6 years.

smart move IMO
 
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BruinVol said:
What's been lost in your celebration of losing T is the fact that you started this thread with a flat out lie.

I am still waiting on the quote from Jones where he promised a Tennessee flavored staff???

If you can provide that quote then perhaps this thread can have some merit and we can then discuss who is next in line to fulfill that promise.

If not you are nothing but an OP with an agenda that is willing to make up lies to promote it!!
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Reading comprehension must be a real problem for you, tool.

It's been stated various times where he said it... I may not have used an exact quote but that was the gist of it.

What exactly is my super secret agenda?
 
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SlipKidVol said:
If you are going to a new offensive system then who better to teach it to players that have not run it than the coaches that have been running it and coaching it for the last 3 to 6 years.

smart move IMO
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That's really not my issue... My issue is a coach making baseless statements. If he wants his coaches, then do be it.

But why did he feel the need to make statements about thorough coaching searches and about having a staff with a Tennessee influence?
 
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Volholic said:
Reading comprehension must be a real problem for you, tool.

It's been stated various times where he said it... I may not have used an exact quote but that was the gist of it.

What exactly is my super secret agenda?
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Your entire thread is based off of a promise you claim that was made. If you can't provide that quote then your thread is based on a lie.

He never promised a Tennessee flavor staff.

End of discussion.
 
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Volholic said:
That's really not my issue... My issue is a coach making baseless statements. If he wants his coaches, then do be it.

But why did he feel the need to make statements about thorough coaching searches and about having a staff with a Tennessee influence?
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I'm not sure he actually said that.
 
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I really could care less. We don't even have an a UT administration tha has a UT flavor. Why would we expect the coach to. Dave Hart needs to be fired and he needs to take his booger eating buddy with him. Until we get Tennessee people in postions of power at UT we deserve what we get.
 
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"I'm going to assemble the best staff in American and I'm going to let them coach."

(On having a `Tennessee guy' on the staff)

"I do think that's important. It's really important to for our players and understanding that there are some players that have been there, done that and gone through the trials and tribulations and understanding of where to go. I'm going to work extremely hard to get that component on our staff." —Butch Jones


"Jones, who was hired Friday from Cincinnati, said having a Tennessee influence was an important component of his staff. " — Mike Strange
 
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Volholic said:
"I do think that's important. It's really important to for our players and understanding that there are some players that have been there, done that and gone through the trials and tribulations and understanding of where to go. I'm going to work extremely hard to get that component on our staff." —Butch
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Does he have that component on our staff????


Just curious but would the word component be a singular word or a plural word since my reading comprehension is so poor??


Still no quote promising anything close to what you suggest. That's because he never promised anything close to a staff full of Tennessee flavor!
 
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BruinVol said:
Does he have that component on our staff????
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Yea Bruin, he's got the one, token former Vol. If he were to have not retained Mr. Graham, I have and idea that he would have been lucky to survive day one. I think he could have endured himself to the fanbase by looking to add at least one more. There are other former Vols that would have been good fits. Marion Hobby comes to mind.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Yea Bruin, he's got the one, token former Vol. If he were to have not retained Mr. Graham, I have and idea that he would have been lucky to survive day one. I think he could have endured himself to the fanbase by looking to add at least one more. There are other former Vols that would have been good fits. Marion Hobby comes to mind.
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He clearly wanted two former vols on his staff. He isn't obligated to doing even that but everything he said he would do in his presser he has done regarding this subject.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
He answered the question that was referring to having people that recruited the south and he said that was important, but we kept Graham and are making a run at Tee. He never actually said Tennessee Flavor that I remember, that was a term in the question he was asked I think.
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Tennessee flavor staff was a term used by Hubbs in describing the staff it appeared Gruden was talking to. Jones never mentioned it. He only said he would assemble the best staff in the nation
 
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Coastypop said:
Tennessee flavor staff was a term used by Hubbs in describing the staff it appeared Gruden was talking to. Jones never mentioned it. He only said he would assemble the best staff in the nation
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And this is the comment many are now latching on to. Fair or not, it appears to some that CBJ equates "best staff in the nation" with last year's Cincy coaching staff.
 
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Coastypop said:
Tennessee flavor staff was a term used by Hubbs in describing the staff it appeared Gruden was talking to. Jones never mentioned it. He only said he would assemble the best staff in the nation
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No he did say it was important to have former UT players on his staff. I guess having Graham meets this criteria.
 
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BruinVol said:
He clearly wanted two former vols on his staff. He isn't obligated to doing even that but everything he said he would do in his presser he has done regarding this subject.
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Your right Bruin, he's not obligated to do anything that would endure him to the Tennessee fans. I want him to hire whomever he wants to. That way if he fails he will not have anybody to blame but himself. And before you say I am wishing failure on him, that is NOT what I am saying. I just have no confidence that he will be more than an 8 win coach here at best. That's just my opinion and I am not a negavol for having that opinion.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Your right Bruin, he's not obligated to do anything that would endure him to the Tennessee fans. I want him to hire whomever he wants to. That way if he fails he will not have anybody to blame but himself. And before you say I am wishing failure on him, that is NOT what I am saying. I just have no confidence that he will be more than an 8 win coach here at best. That's just my opinion and I am not a negavol for having that opinion.
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That's a fair stance. I have no issue with it. My problem is the OP completely fabricating what the man said to spew negativity about jones. There are plenty of real factual issues that can be discussed that could make that point about him not succeeding
 
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BruinVol said:
That's a fair stance. I have no issue with it. My problem is the OP completely fabricating what the man said to spew negativity about jones. There are plenty of real factual issues that can be discussed that could make that point about him not succeeding
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I don't think having more former players on staff are going to make or break him. His success at Tennessee will be made or broken on his ability to recruit. Fulmer was good here (when he was good here) because he was bringing in classes that were among the best in the country and SEC. Saban is good at Alabama because he typically has the best one or two ranked classes in the country. Muschamp is good because he has better atheletes 10 out of 12 games a year. Chizic was good at Auburn one year because he had the best player in college football. If Butch Jones can recruit at the same level or even slightly less than AL, GA, FL, LSU then he will be successful.

That's why I thought we needed a big name coach that would bring instant credibility and flash to Tennessee. You have to get the 5 star guys if you want to be a championship contender. The flashy hires get those players. Can CBJ get those players?? Ask me in February.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I don't think having more former players on staff are going to make or break him. His success at Tennessee will be made or broken on his ability to recruit. Fulmer was good here (when he was good here) because he was bringing in classes that were among the best in the country and SEC. Saban is good at Alabama because he typically has the best one or two ranked classes in the country. Muschamp is good because he has better atheletes 10 out of 12 games a year. Chizic was good at Auburn one year because he had the best player in college football. If Butch Jones can recruit at the same level or even slightly less than AL, GA, FL, LSU then he will be successful.

That's why I thought we needed a big name coach that would bring instant credibility and flash to Tennessee. You have to get the 5 star guys if you want to be a championship contender. The flashy hires get those players. Can CBJ get those players?? Ask me in February.
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I believe the X/O coaching ability is more important than recruiting at the moment. As long as we finish 15-20 in recruiting in February that will be fine by me. We are going to have win first before we can expect top 10 classes. This February will tell me very little about what jones is or isn't going to accomplish
 
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BruinVol said:
I believe the X/O coaching ability is more important than recruiting at the moment. As long as we finish 15-20 in recruiting in February that will be fine by me. We are going to have win first before we can expect top 10 classes. This February will tell me very little about what jones is or isn't going to accomplish
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One good signature win next year over Florida, Alabama or Georgia and at least an 8-4 season would generate plenty of Cinderella Story buzz for UT. We gotta get the media talking about us (in a positive way) to start getting the attention of potential recruits again and the media loves a good comeback story.
 
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BruinVol said:
I believe the X/O coaching ability is more important than recruiting at the moment. As long as we finish 15-20 in recruiting in February that will be fine by me. We are going to have win first before we can expect top 10 classes. This February will tell me very little about what jones is or isn't going to accomplish
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I think you are correct. Players are going to have the same attitude as I do about CBJ. They will want to see it to believe it. If he has a top 15 class, I think that will be about all anyoe can expect. It's a shame we are going to lose out on Ramsey and Bell it appears.

Next year will be his make it or break it year. With the Berry twins, Todd Kelly jr, and Hurd being '14 players, it'll be interesting to see if he lands them. If he loses out on these players, in particular the former vol kids, he is doomed.
 
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I don't care if the coaches are all from Communist China. They will all be wearing UT colors on the sideline. If they can recruit and win games, I don't care where they were born.

General Neyland was from Texas and he did okay.
 
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I actually like that Coach Jones is bringing a lot of Cincy guys! They are (19-6) in the past two years they know what the HC is expecting on both sides of the ball. There want be any learning curve as for as the coaching staff to get used to each other and how each guy operates. Most all of them have SEC experience and all appear to be top notch recruiters.
 
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BruinVol said:
That's a fair stance. I have no issue with it. My problem is the OP completely fabricating what the man said to spew negativity about jones. There are plenty of real factual issues that can be discussed that could make that point about him not succeeding
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You got your head pretty far up BJ's rear end apparently.

I don't see all this negativity that I'm spewing about the coach. I had a couple of issues and I voiced them. As far as I can tell, this is a free forum to do that.

In summary, I'll say what I want. Sod off, Jerk.
 
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