So Worley almost beats 2 ranked teams yet...

If Ferguson wins it with never seeing a live ball then the other three are terrible. I just dont see anything but Worley or Petterman
 
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Unless someone steps up during Spring practice and takes it away from Worley, I think Worley is starter. That's probably obvious, but who knows. I trust CBJ judgement, but him starting Peterman against Florida makes me wonder what the coaching staff was thinking.
 
If Ferguson wins it with never seeing a live ball then the other three are terrible. I just dont see anything but Worley or Petterman

Did you just say Peterman? Huh? 4-11 5 yds, 2 ints, .7 QBR (on a scale of 1-100) didn't do it for ya?

No offense to young Nathan, but if this QB competition is anything other than a 3 man race between Worley, Dobbs and Ferguson, then my confidence in Butch will drop even further than it did following the 4 very bad games this year culminating with an awful loss to Vaginabilt.
 
If some of the freshman receivers coming in can be better than what we got than any of the three QBs will look better. However from all the QBs we have seen none of them have the deep ball arm which we need. But we do need to have a QB with some running ability for this offense(read-run option) to be affective. Dobbs running did help this offense but not sure he is the answer either.
 
Worley rose to the level of consistent mediocrity.

Dobbs ran very well, but passed about like Worley had in his first two years (largely inaccurate, poor choices, not much zip), though, strangely, his arm seemed much more lively in the first game or two, (and in his high school clips) which makes me think there was an injury. There were a couple of throws in the Kentucky game that he squeezed into tight places with a good deal of zip.
I think he looked better playing badly as a freshman than Worley did playing badly as a freshman. Much higher ceiling.

Having said all that, if neither Dobbs nor Ferguson show themselves to be head and shoulders above Worley in the spring, Butch will start Worley.
 
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There is no way to tell what our QB will be come next fall, spring will be wide open. But if "almost" is something you can hang your hat on then Derek Dooley would still be the coach here. And by my count worley was 1-4 against ranked teams as the starter this year so that stat nor his personal stats are exactly wowing anyone

who is this Dooley you speak of ? and I do have to give Worley some credit,he was improving a lot as the year went along,till his injury
 
Did you just say Peterman? Huh? 4-11 5 yds, 2 ints, .7 QBR (on a scale of 1-100) didn't do it for ya?

No offense to young Nathan, but if this QB competition is anything other than a 3 man race between Worley, Dobbs and Ferguson, then my confidence in Butch will drop even further than it did following the 4 very bad games this year culminating with an awful loss to Vaginabilt.

wasn't Petermen injured and didn't tell anybody ? it is hard to judge him playing just one half of football and against Fla defence for your first game,spring practice will be wide open for the QBs,which will be interesting to say the least
 
who is this Dooley you speak of ? and I do have to give Worley some credit,he was improving a lot as the year went along,till his injury

I really don't understand this line of thinking. How was he improving? Because North made a couple of highlight reel catches in the South Carolina game? Other than those, our offense was pathetic in the second half of the South Carolina game and nearly gave the game away by not being able to sustain drives. And, surely we're not counting the Alabama game. Worley looked particularly inept against them. I don't understand where everyone else saw all this supposed progress Worley made. I must have gone to the fridge and missed it. He was still throwing the ball in the dirt, forcing it into coverage, and missing open receivers in every game I saw him play.
 
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wasn't Petermen injured and didn't tell anybody ? it is hard to judge him playing just one half of football and against Fla defence for your first game,spring practice will be wide open for the QBs,which will be interesting to say the least

Honestly, before he was hurt, which I believe was at sometime not too long before his last int when it was painfully obvious he couldn't grip the ball, he was still really, really bad. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between his last play and his first. There was no difference. He looked absolutely lost from the first snap.

I agree that normally one half of football is nowhere near enough of a sample size. But he looked poor in the O&W game, the APSU game in relief and certainly during the Florida game. Just seemed like the moment of playing QB in the SEC was too big for him.
 
Worley throws worm bruisers. He's still very bad.

I'm trying to think of a time when he threw alot of passes short and can't. There was a tremendous lack of trust in his receivers. You could see that... and it wasn't unwarranted. The better they got, the better he looked.
 
If Ferguson wins it with never seeing a live ball then the other three are terrible. I just dont see anything but Worley or Petterman

I suspect that Peterman may transfer. He probably needs a new start. If he doesn't then it will be because he stayed through spring ball and clearly outperformed the other two Fr... which would raise the chances that one of them transfers.

It is difficult to imagine that UT will enter this fall with a RS Fr, Soph, and RS Soph at the QB position regardless of who starts.
 
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All 4 guys have the talent to be good or very good SEC QB's. The guy who makes good decisions, protects the ball, and manages the game will be the starter. Other than Dobb's being a better runner, there's nothing obvious that separates them.

They MUST... MUST... be coached up. I am more concerned about that than not having someone with enough physical talent.
 
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It's just laughable that Dobbs looked atrocious throwing the ball but gets every excuse under the sun while people seem to think Worley was just some bum on the street for the same faults.
 
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It's just laughable that Dobbs looked atrocious throwing the ball but gets every excuse under the sun while people seem to think Worley was just some bum on the street for the same faults.

They both looked awful this season. The difference is, Dobbs is a freshman. He wasn't even here for spring practice. Worley is a junior who had actually started a game before this year. Either one would have to improve by leaps and bound to become even a decent D1 QB. It's doubtful either can do it, but you would have to feel better about a true freshman making that climb than a guy who has already had 3 years to do so.
 
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It's just laughable that Dobbs looked atrocious throwing the ball but gets every excuse under the sun while people seem to think Worley was just some bum on the street for the same faults.

I agree, as well if Dobbs would have been the starter against usc we would most likely have lost that game. Jmo, but the Worley hate is epic around here.
 
It's just laughable that Dobbs looked atrocious throwing the ball but gets every excuse under the sun while people seem to think Worley was just some bum on the street for the same faults.

I think its the age difference and the fact Dobbs didn't under and overthrow wrs by 10 yards. Dobbs made worse decisions and threw picks. But he was a true fr playing the toughest teams we played this year and didn't have North for two. North got a lot of Worley's yards for him on throws that were bad and he still caught. But Worley threw picks also. Take out AP and he stays with his career trend of more ints than tds. Add that to a 55% completion to 60% for JD and you will see why.
 
It's just laughable that Dobbs looked atrocious throwing the ball but gets every excuse under the sun while people seem to think Worley was just some bum on the street for the same faults.

Worley's problems were as much WR's as his throws. Dobbs made Fr mistakes in abundance but did show some flashes.

The "laughable" thing to me is the number here who are not only confident that Ferguson is the guy... they'll get right down indignant if you won't agree having never seen him vs SEC competition.

He may be the greatest QB at UT since Manning but there's just no way to make any kind of real prediction of that based on sporadic and mixed comments coming out of practices.
 
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Lol yea Dooley wasnt very good at career changing games. The QB run isnt a requirement with this offense but it sure helps when you arent one dimensional in your run game, if worley is the starter I would say go back to a power set. Another thing that concerns people about worley is arm strength but dobbs didnt exactly have that either. And i see people worshiping Ferguson but can anyone on here say theyve seen him play a college snap to make that judgement?

I played against him in a passing league in high school... Trust me he has plenty of arm strength
 
Unless either Ferg or Dobbs make some strides in the off season I think we will see Worley again next year. The youngsters have more potential up side but if they are going to play like Dobbs did this year Worley will be the guy again.
 
Great catches by North aside, somebody had to throw the ball and give the receivers a chance to make a play. We aren't tallying all the drops Worley's receivers had this year, so I see no reason to discount passes where a receiver made a play.

By my untrained eye, this team was playing its best football before Worley was injured; I don't care who runs faster. And I don't think it's stretch to suggest this team would be bowling had he not been injured.
 
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1-2 against ranked teams. Might wanna check facts.

He lost to Oregon, GA and started the Ala so he should get the loss for that one, just like giving the loss to Peterman for starting UF. So he was 1-3 and looked pretty bad in the Oregon and Ala first half. But highly doubt he beats Mizzou or AU either.
 
Right now Justin is the most stable qb we have. I just don't see the intagibles in Dobbs...and remember Brent Schaffer could run as well...and he ran himself right out of the program.

Wouldn't say Worley is a stable QB. Only game we may possibly have won if he wasnt hurt was Vandy. And not sure he would have won that one with his security blanket North out then Croom getting hurt as well.
 
What did he do? Well let's see... played a solid half against GA and would've won had Pig not fumbled it away.
Then beat SCjr with no turnovers.
Dobbs lost to Vandy. So it's pretty obvious Worley did something to prove he was better.

Worley was not why we beat SCe. Our Defense, 3 bailout catch's by North and we ran the ball well. Way too much credit is being given to Worley. We scored 6 points the whole second half and 3I of those were as time ran out. And Pig cant be blamed for the GA loss. No way GA should have been able to go right down field on that last drive and even tie it up. 2 last minute 4th Qtr drives cost us 2 wins and being 7-5 and in a bowl.what teams didn't look good against GA's D. Just saying I didn't see Worley playing that much better nor do I think he is our QB next season.
 
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