Socialism Fails Everytime ...

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1972 Grad said:
Look!! Grand Vol again.
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My guess would be that GV loses not one wink of sleep over what might happen if a horde of DSA or Antifa Commandos descended upon his neck of the woods with malice aforethought...

OSBI, on the other hand, is going to need a bunch of "evidence markers", and enough Hefty bags to hold all the carcasses. Maybe there's a Sam's Club nearby where they can pick up enough to get them through it.

Go Vols.
 
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Socialism includes the enormous subsidies to keep farmers afloat. It includes tax dollars used for public infrastructure, Social Security, fire protection, maintenance of the military, public transportation, police departments, public parks, public schools, postal service, and of course medicare and medicaid. A HUGE, and I mean HUGE amount of these socialist perks benefit rightist voters who live mainly in rural areas. Remove any or all these perks and watch what happens when you do. The folks screaming the loudest against socialism will be the most violent pizzed off if they're denied the benefits.

Once again, Quark's assessment of hoomans is dead on, and that includes loudmouthed socialism despising rightists:

Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites privileges are working available. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of their food, sleep, sonic showers social caste and social strata perks make those perks unavailable, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon and murderous criminal. You don't believe me? Look at those faces their resurrectionist behavior, attitudes, and hate-mongering. Look in their eyes. See what is preexistence and smolders just beneath them.
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WoodsmanVol said:
Socialism includes the enormous subsidies to keep farmers afloat. It includes tax dollars used for public infrastructure, Social Security, fire protection, maintenance of the military, public transportation, police departments, public parks, public schools, postal service, and of course medicare and medicaid. A HUGE, and I mean HUGE amount of these socialist perks benefit rightist voters who live mainly in rural areas. Remove any or all these perks and watch what happens when you do. The folks screaming the loudest against socialism will be the most violent pizzed off if they're denied the benefits.

Once again, Quark's assessment of hoomans is dead on, and that includes loudmouthed socialism despising rightists:

Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites privileges are working available. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of their food, sleep, sonic showers social caste and social strata perks make those perks unavailable, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon and murderous criminal. You don't believe me? Look at those faces their resurrectionist behavior, attitudes, and hate-mongering. Look in their eyes. See what is preexistence and smolders just beneath them.
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The farmer subsidies are paying them to keep prices artificially low.
 
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Persian Vol said:
Under what metric?
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Yeah, we have no where near the best healthcare in the world.

Canadians fly to Canada for treatment.

I know several families that are from Columbia, but are US citizens and make yearly visits home and schedule all appointments and treatments on their vacation. They claim the quality is the same, but less inexpensive than paying for health insurance in the US.
 
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LouderVol said:
The farmer subsidies are paying them to keep prices artificially low.
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Including dairy farmers who fall short in production and needed bailouts, right? And soybean farmers who couldn't sell off their crop, eh? Now, I do believe what you said to an extent, but often, that's not the case. Generally, it is wanton mismanagement of both tax money and the industry via unnecessary socialist practices, the name of capitalism
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2. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...try-doesnt-deserve-american-taxpayer-bailout/
3. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...ave-americas-dairy-but-does-it-go-far-enough/
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Including dairy farmers who fall short in production and needed bailouts, right? And soybean farmers who couldn't sell off their crop, eh? Now, I do believe what you said to an extent, but often, that's not the case. Generally, it is wanton mismanagement of both tax money and the industry via unnecessary socialist practices, the name of capitalism
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2. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...try-doesnt-deserve-american-taxpayer-bailout/
3. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...ave-americas-dairy-but-does-it-go-far-enough/
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I mean technically the cases you mentioned would be paying them to keep prices low. If those places shut down, supply goes down and price goes up.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Yeah, we have no where near the best healthcare in the world.

Canadians fly to Canada for treatment.

I know several families that are from Columbia, but are US citizens and make yearly visits home and schedule all appointments and treatments on their vacation. They claim the quality is the same, but less inexpensive than paying for health insurance in the US.
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why would the pay more for the same?
That aside, I know people who travel back to Canada and even a son who comes back to ET to see the dentist, sometimes it’s just because they feel more comfortable with the practitioner
 
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Wireless1 said:
why would the pay more for the same?
That aside, I know people who travel back to Canada and even a son who comes back to ET to see the dentist, sometimes it’s just because they feel more comfortable with the practitioner
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And they don't get charged in Canada.

I am not sure what you mean by your first comment.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Including dairy farmers who fall short in production and needed bailouts, right? And soybean farmers who couldn't sell off their crop, eh? Now, I do believe what you said to an extent, but often, that's not the case. Generally, it is wanton mismanagement of both tax money and the industry via unnecessary socialist practices, the name of capitalism
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2. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...try-doesnt-deserve-american-taxpayer-bailout/
3. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...ave-americas-dairy-but-does-it-go-far-enough/
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I beg the government to remove ALL farm subsidies, price supports and insurance guarantees. Please, please do this and also remove all price controls and restrictions on the market in exchange.
 
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LouderVol said:
I mean technically the cases you mentioned would be paying them to keep prices low. If those places shut down, supply goes down and price goes up.
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OK, got that. Now, to go back to the original topic of my first post, whatever the reason for the subsidies, it's still socialist. Along with the other examples I provided.
 
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