Something VERY important for you recruiting junkies to know....

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You can, and they will in the future. You can get someone's IP address if need be and find out many things about someone if you are the Compliance Office. I don't know when it's going to start, but it will happen. They can't live by dinosaur laws much longer.
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Dude, seriously. Lay off the therma-flu. :)
 
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#28
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Really??

Here's one of several quotes you can find about it....



Here's the article.....
Technician - Facebook: you have one NCAA violation
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From your article:

Such violations are rarely enforced by the NCAA, but are more often enforced by the host school.
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Translation, the NCAA has never punished a school in any way, shape, manner, or form for recruits contacting a guy on facebook. At worst, if the school finds out, they will send a "cease and desist" letter, but that almost never happens.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
From your article:



Translation, the NCAA has never punished a school in any way, shape, manner, or form for recruits contacting a guy on facebook. At worst, if the school finds out, they will send a "cease and desist" letter, but that almost never happens.
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That's my point. Why do you think I posted it straight from UT Compliance?? :)

It is illegal, not matter how you dice it though.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If you say so. I've heard otherwise. Plus, communication is communication, electronic or otherwise.
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Really??

Here's one of several quotes you can find about it....



Here's the article.....
Technician - Facebook: you have one NCAA violation
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The NCAA may view it as "not permissable," but that does nothing to explain how they plan on policing the activity.

Tap me on the shoulder when the NCAA transforms into an omnipresent, supreme governing body, capable of bypassing all electronic privacy laws and producing enough manpower to monitor the online message board activity of every prospective scholarship athlete in the country. Until then, I say again, you've lost your mind.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
The NCAA may view it as "not permissable," but that does nothing to explain how they plan on policing the activity.

Tap me on the shoulder when the NCAA transforms into an omnipresent, supreme governing body, capable of bypassing all electronic privacy laws and producing enough manpower to monitor the online message board activity of every prospective scholarship athlete in the country. Until then, I say again, you've lost your mind.
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I would say they monitor things a lot closer than most know about right now. It's not hard to find out who someone is. The internet, at face value, is public record.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You can, and they will in the future. You can get someone's IP address if need be and find out many things about someone if you are the Compliance Office. I don't know when it's going to start, but it will happen. They can't live by dinosaur laws much longer.
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Now this right here is kinda crazy...
 
#35
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You can, and they will in the future. You can get someone's IP address if need be and find out many things about someone if you are the Compliance Office. I don't know when it's going to start, but it will happen. They can't live by dinosaur laws much longer.
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easy enough to get anonymous if you really want to do it. Heck, find the right guy to help and you could make it look like every post came from Tuscaloosa.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I would say they monitor things a lot closer than most know about right now. It's not hard to find out who someone is. The internet, at face value, is public record.
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I'd say most are pretty familiar with what's being monitored. Regardless, the issue here is enforcement. It's obvious it's against the rules, enforcing it is another story. It will never happen. They can't do it, just as JT5 illustrated.
 
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Guys its not like any of this is the law. The NCAA can't and won't control the people that contact prospect. Its that simple. They have better and more important things to do, like investigate Alabama.
 
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jmva1 said:
Guys its not like any of this is just the law. The NCAA can't and won't control the people that contact prospect. Its that simple. They have better and more important things to do, like investigate Alabama.
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Correct.

They leave almost all the monitoring to the school. And the school will take care of things before it becomes an issue. Facebook contact with recruits is not an issue they are currently policing. It's impossible to.
 
#40
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who cares if its illegal or not, its lame and any bad ass mo fo's out there don't try to make friends with dudes on the internet.
 
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#43
Why are people so scared of the NCAA and the University anyway.. In the One in a Million chance they do "disassociate", who cares? It's not like this is the law and they're going to throw you in prison. It's not like your life will change. You want to buy a ticket? Get one from a scalper. You'll probably get a better deal that way anyways.

The only people who should be afraid of getting "disassociated" are kids who plan to apply to that university for college, or try to teach there, or work them, etc.
 
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jmva1 said:
Why are people so scared of the NCAA and the University anyway.. In the One in a Million chance they do "disassociate", who cares? It's not like this is the law and they're going to throw you in prison. It's not like your life will change. You want to buy a ticket? Get one from a scalper. You'll probably get a better deal that way anyways.

The only people who should be afraid of getting "disassociated" are kids who plan to apply to that university for college, or try to teach there, or work them, etc.
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I would wager most fans would care a little more about getting disassociated from the university than you do.
 
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My point is buying a single ticket does not make you a booster.

A representative of athletics interests is anyone who has ever:
made any type of contribution to the athletics department or to a booster club
joined the institution's booster club or any sport specific support group
provided or helped arrange employment for a student-athlete
provided benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families
assisted in any manner in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes
promoted the institution's athletics program in any manner.
purchased season tickets from the University.

The definition singles out season ticket holders.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I would wager most fans would care a little more about getting disassociated from the university than you do.
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Seriously though, lets play a little devil's advocate. What happens? You can't buy a ticket (though I doubt they enforce that). Just get one from a scalper. You can't buy stuff from a University affiliated store? Just have a friend buy it for you, or just pay cash. Seriously, I don't get why everyone is so afraid of the NCAA and Universities. People act like it's the FBI or the Police. It's not.
 
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#50
Personally, I barely use Facebook except to stay in touch with people from High School or from back home. But that doesn't mean that it isn't ok for people to make friends with recruits or anyone else in any form of media.

The people talking about it being creepy sound like they have been watching too many episodes of Dateline. You act like these recruits have no control over who they talk to, add as a contact or allow to remain a contact if that person is annnoying them.

These recruits are still just young people who are probably pretty open to meeting or having contact with other young people, potential fans and all kinds of people. If they aren't open to that then they will choose to have private accounts and won't allow people to intrude on their privacy.

Those that don't set it to private and ACCEPT friend requests from strangers are inviting that contact. Why not use Facebook as a way for recruits to get to know some their future classmates and the fanbase of their future school? This is why it is very important for people to act with class and keep in mind that they are representing the entire university in any contact they have with a recruit or anything they put online.

The last thing that we need is an unemotional, unaivalable fanbase and student body when dealing with recruits. Why do we paint the rock when recruits are on campus? We are trying to show them some love!

How the F is it so wrong for people to show recruits some love online when that contact is openly invited by the recruit?

Any violation of NCAA rules is another matter but do we really see the NCAA busting schools because a season ticket holder messaged a recruit on Facebook? That would be all-time stupid even for the NCAA.
 
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