Something VERY important for you recruiting junkies to know....

#51
#51
My point is buying a single ticket does not make you a booster.

A representative of athletics interests is anyone who has ever:
made any type of contribution to the athletics department or to a booster club
joined the institution's booster club or any sport specific support group
provided or helped arrange employment for a student-athlete
provided benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their families
assisted in any manner in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes
promoted the institution's athletics program in any manner.
purchased season tickets from the University.

The definition singles out season ticket holders.

This is a self-fulfilling part of the definition. If you are contacting a recruit because you're a fan and are interested in them deciding to go there, you are now a booster.
 
#52
#52
How is it so wrong for people to show recruits some love online when that contact is openly invited by the recruit?

What does "openly invited" really mean though? If a recruit has a listed phone number, would you say it's OK to pick up the phone and call them?
 
#53
#53
easy enough to get anonymous if you really want to do it. Heck, find the right guy to help and you could make it look like every post came from Tuscaloosa.

That is a good point. Can't refute that. I used to have a program that made it seem like I was from China. :)
 
#54
#54
One problem with this, is what is to stop me from posing as a big Alabama fan and talking up recruits trying to influence them to go to Tuscaloosa? It'd be very easy to get other rival schools in trouble.

Exactly. This is the major loophole in this "rule". I agree, I think it is odd to contact these players on facebook/my space, it just seems stalker-ish to me. My guess is that the programs will coach the players not to accept friendship requests from people they do not know.
 
#55
#55
Exactly. This is the major loophole in this "rule". I agree, I think it is odd to contact these players on facebook/my space, it just seems stalker-ish to me. My guess is that the programs will coach the players not to accept friendship requests from people they do not know.

Hopefully this is the case.
 
#56
#56
I am not a facebook guy...I have myspace but have never tried to talk to a recruit but who gives a flying rat turd what people do...

You think before there was facebook that people never called recruits or talked to them while they were out?

And to all the people who call others lame for being friends with recruits on facebook...It is no lamer than spending all of your free time on here talking about a University that 90% of us have never attended...Put things in perspective before you just point your finger and make idiot remarks. JMO.
 
#57
#57
The NCAA has bigger things to worry about than some average Joe trying to be Facebook friends with an athlete.
 
#58
#58
What does "openly invited" really mean though? If a recruit has a listed phone number, would you say it's OK to pick up the phone and call them?


No, of course not. That would be way outside the norm of telephone contact.

However, receiving an online message from your profile that you choose to allow to be public is within the norm.

I don't think a lot of people realize how people view these type of sites and the casual communication on them.

A lot of these recruits want the attention that comes along with being a coveted athlete. Of course, we want to protect the kids from people who would try to use them and we also want to protect the University's interests but a lot of these HS recruits enjoy the interaction they have on FB with youth from other parts of the country.

I think people are just taking it all way too seriously. It really is no more pathetic to contact someone on FB than it is to complain about it on a message board and act like it make's anyone less of a man.

I guarantee that you can count the number of players on the UT roster who do not have a Facebook account on one hand.

Twitter on the otherhand......:)
 
#59
#59
I am not a facebook guy...I have myspace but have never tried to talk to a recruit but who gives a flying rat turd what people do...

You think before there was facebook that people never called recruits or talked to them while they were out?

And to all the people who call others lame for being friends with recruits on facebook...It is no lamer than spending all of your free time on here talking about a University that 90% of us have never attended...Put things in perspective before you just point your finger and make idiot remarks. JMO.

It was on a MUCH smaller scale, but it did happen.
 
#60
#60
I am not a facebook guy...I have myspace but have never tried to talk to a recruit but who gives a flying rat turd what people do...

You think before there was facebook that people never called recruits or talked to them while they were out?

And to all the people who call others lame for being friends with recruits on facebook...It is no lamer than spending all of your free time on here talking about a University that 90% of us have never attended...Put things in perspective before you just point your finger and make idiot remarks. JMO.


Well said.
 
#61
#61
It was on a MUCH smaller scale, but it did happen.

It happened ALL THE TIME. You can't stop it. You think things are so much different now than they were 10 years ago, but the situations aren't dissimilar. The methods by which the contact occurs is all that has changed.
 
#63
#63
It was on a MUCH smaller scale, but it did happen.


What about the countless number of kids in their HS trying to sway them in a direction?

Heck, what about HS coaches who try to direct their kids to certain schools?

I can't see how Facebook would have much effect other than giving more people access to the recruits. That could certainly be a bad thing and I do think that universities and highschools need to make sure to educate these kids about how to be safe and to avoid bad situations.
 
#64
#64
It happened ALL THE TIME. You can't stop it. You think things are so much different now than they were 10 years ago, but the situations aren't dissimilar. The methods by which the contact occurs is all that has changed.

Recruiting is covered MUCH more extensively and the internet has made information readily available to whoever wants it. Ten years ago, most people had no clue who our recruits were until the media guides came out way after signing day. There were obviously people who followed recruiting, but NO WHERE near what there is now. How many recruits you think there was back then to flash their phone numbers on their youtube videos??
 
#65
#65
What about the countless number of kids in their HS trying to sway them in a direction?

Heck, what about HS coaches who try to direct their kids to certain schools?

I can't see how Facebook would have much effect other than giving more people access to the recruits. That could certainly be a bad thing and I do think that universities and highschools need to make sure to educate these kids about how to be safe and to avoid bad situations.

Minors advising other minors is trivial, because most don't even have close to a say so in what's really going on, so your point is moot involving what we are talking about. HS coaches are a different story, but not really. There are many HS coaches that influence kids in where to go, but most don't point them in a certain direction. If a coach has been found to be a booster or alumni or a particular school and try and influence a recruits decision, I'm sure that the NCAA and University deal with those things fairly quietly.
 
#66
#66
My whole point to this is, it's wrong to do it and you need to watch yourself in posting or bragging about it online. Especially on message boards, because I guarantee you that Compliance can find out who you are and deal with it as they see fit. They may do nothing, or they may take away season tickets. It's just part of the rules.
 
#71
#71
My whole point to this is, it's wrong to do it and you need to watch yourself in posting or bragging about it online. Especially on message boards, because I guarantee you that Compliance can find out who you are and deal with it as they see fit. They may do nothing, or they may take away season tickets. It's just part of the rules.

And the realistic POV is that you can talk to them and brag about it on the message boards wherever and the compliance office and the university won't stop you. I'm not condoning it, that's just the truth. The only trouble you'll get in is with your fellow peers thinking that your a creeper, and that you forced the prospects to talk to you against their will and talking to prospects should be against the law.
 
#72
#72
And the realistic POV is that you can talk to them and brag about it on the message boards wherever and the compliance office and the university won't stop you. I'm not condoning it, that's just the truth. The only trouble you'll get in is with your fellow peers thinking that your a creeper, and that you forced the prospects to talk to you against their will and talking to prospects should be against the law.

If you say so.
 

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