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#251
#251
bop_rocco said:
But who is Oregon playing? The pac 10 is not good. Oregon is a .500 team every year in the sec with a soft non conf sched. I do like the uniforms the ducks have unlike most here but they could not hold their own year in year out in the SEC.
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Don't know what to tell you, according to the widely respected Sagarin ratings, Oregon had a more difficult strength of schedule last year than Tennessee: USATODAY.com

The SEC might be historically better on average over all of history than the Pac-10. But, it fluctuates from year to year and depends a lot on OOC games. The Pac-10 tends to schedule tougher OOC games than the SEC. This has been well documented:

The National Championship Issue: A Non-Conference Scheduling Report: Who Likes a Challenge?

The Wizard of Odds: The Complete Look at Nonconference Travel

The Wizard of Odds: Art of the Cupcake Schedule

The Wiz of Odds: Why Cupcakes Are Bad for You, the Fan

The Wiz of Odds: Why Is the SEC Is Completely Over-rated
 
#252
#252
volnut10 said:
dude, your 09 team will field 3 recruiting classes ranked outside of the top 25(one of them #56, one in the 30's), and 1 #9 ranked class. this is the worst our recruiting has been in 20 years, and we will have classes ranked#4, #8, #24 and #36(probably the worst class of our lifetime. and beleive it or not, 08's seniors was the #1 class in the nation. 08 returned every starter(minus ainge & mayo) from a seccg team, that took eventual champs lsu to the wire in 07. 08's woes were strictly due to the coaching change on offense failing, as our d was #1 in the sec, and top 5 nationally. oregon never has, and never will have the talent ut has. the last 30 yrs(my lifetime) ut is 5th in wins. ou is 19th. there are 5 sec teams ahead of ou, almost half our conf. since 2000(our worst decade since the 70's and your best), you have 2 more wins than us, and in the same time frame, we both have 4 10+win season, funny thing is, those 4 are the ducks only 10+win seasons EVER! weve had 21. youve had 47 losing seasons, ut has had 22. 9 sec teams have more all time wins than ou, and vandy is only 4 wins behind you.you have 22 players in the nfl, we have 38(currently 5th or 6th in the sec, and the same as the puss10 best, usc), and its our lowest in a long time. ou runs the spread, not many spread teams are successful in producing top nfl talent. we have for sometime, and still do run a pro style offense. ut plays in the toughest conf. in the nation, vs ou in the second worst conf. in the nation(face it, if usc wasnt in the puss10, the big east would be a tougher conference),ut's conference, stadium, facilities, fanbase, uniforms, tradition, coaches(individualy)and most likely as a whole are better,our rb's coach has more rb's in the nfl than ou. they are definately better recruiters. dude there is NOTHING, to compare ou to ut. its simply laughable you are even over trying to dispute that. seriously, whats that tell you, when we have a 5-7 season and and our 3rd coaching change since 77, and still bring in a rec. class ranked #8 in the nation, and ou has its second or 3rd best record ever, and you can only muster #26 class? since 02, you have had 2 rec. classes ranked in the top 25, a 9 & 15. we have had 1 ranked outside the top 25, 3 top 5, 3 top 10 and 1 top 25. please, continue to think you have more talent than ut, it will only be that much more crushing to you when oregon loses in knoxville in 2010. ask your boys the golden bears, about 35-0 late in the 3rd before we put in the reserves. sorry for the long rant guys, i thought the bammers were delusional, these guys take the cake.
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I can't read this. Punctuate and use paragraphs and I'll check it out.

bigvolsfan69 said:
and tha only team in tha pac-10 is usc everyone else is very mediocor :yes:
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Keep repeating that myth. We'll keep winning games.
 
#253
#253
wheaton4prez said:
Don't know what to tell you, according to the widely respected Sagarin ratings, Oregon had a more difficult strength of schedule last year than Tennessee: USATODAY.com

The SEC might be historically better on average over all of history than the Pac-10. But, it fluctuates from year to year and depends a lot on OOC games. The Pac-10 tends to schedule tougher OOC games than the SEC. This has been well documented:

The National Championship Issue: A Non-Conference Scheduling Report: Who Likes a Challenge?

The Wizard of Odds: The Complete Look at Nonconference Travel

The Wizard of Odds: Art of the Cupcake Schedule

The Wiz of Odds: Why Cupcakes Are Bad for You, the Fan

The Wiz of Odds: Why Is the SEC Is Completely Over-rated
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did you ever consider thats cause we have a better IC games because it is way tougher than than tha pac-10 because any given year 11 0f 12 teams is over .500 or because everybody else is to chicken s*** to come into tha SEC
 
#254
#254
bigvolsfan69 said:
did you ever consider thats cause we have a better IC games because it is way tougher than than tha pac-10 because any given year 11 0f 12 teams is over .500 or because everybody else is to chicken s*** to come into tha SEC
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No. I never considered that because it's an unfounded position. But, I have heard it repeated many times by people with no better arguments, yes.

Oregon had a tougher strength of schedule than Tennessee last year.
 
#255
#255
Keep repeating that myth. We'll keep winning games.[/QUOTE]

yeah as long as you dont play USC. when was tha last time you beat them????
 
#256
#256
Strength of Schedule:

2008:
Oregon 22
UT 31
USATODAY.com

2007:
Oregon 5
UT 9
USATODAY.com

2006:
Oregon 6
UT 4
USATODAY.com

2005:
Oregon 34
UT 32
USATODAY.com

2004:
Oregon 30
UT 37
USATODAY.com

2003:
Oregon 32
UT 30
USATODAY.com

2002:
Oregon 52
UT 45
USATODAY.com

2001:
Oregon 26
UT 1
USATODAY.com

2000:
Oregon 25
UT 70
USATODAY.com

1999:
Oregon 48
UT 14
USATODAY.com


Oregon's strength of schedule over the last 10 years has been tougher than Tennessee's 4 times. I'm pretty sure that, with Boise State and Utah as OOC games, the Ducks strength of schedule will be tougher than UT's in 2009. That will put the 10 year comparison at even between the teams. Not what one would expect if you listen to SEC homers superiority talk.
 
#262
#262
I have no idea why our fans are embarrassing themselves complaining about Kiffin and TN cheating. It's pathetic.

Bryce obviously had all sorts of reason to choose Tennessee over us, whether or not we would agree with those reasons. As I said in the Bryce thread - congratulations.

A few points from this thread -
I hadn't heard Clemson recorded a new record - congrats to them.
The LSU "seismograph" game wasn't due t sound as I recall, it was due to everybody jumping up and down.

While you guys have a longer tradition of producing productive NFL backs, I would suggest that Jonathan Stewart, Jeremiah Johnson, and LeGarrette Blount will give us a pretty impressive NFL RB resume when combined with Morris and Droughns in assessing our recent accomplishments. (And please, remember Stewart JUST completed his rookie season.)

Further, the SEC is the tougher conference - I will never debate that - but the degree to which it is better than ours is drastically overstated, constantly. Oregon might not have won 10 games this past season, but I certainly believe we were capable of it, especially factoring in games against UAB, NIU and Wyoming.

Also we beat USC 2 seasons ago. And keep in mind, that teams from the Pac-10 are the ones that routinely give USC its stumble - USC generally destroys folks outside of conference play.
 
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#263
#263
"Tennessee definitely has a better history, but the results over the past decade are far more comparable."

And we fired our coach because he was on par with Oregon. At UT comparing to Oregon's "success" gets you fired.
 
#265
#265
a couple of things:

1. autzen is definetly not louder than neyland. NOT EVEN CLOSE. anyone else actually been to both?

2. oregon fans are so loyal that half of them are still in the parking lot getting drunk by the second half kickoff (i'm 100% serious). take a look at the stands during hte second half kickoff.

3. they haven't won anything before or after tedford was their OC

4. they never won anything before phil's money. actually they were one of the worst teams in ncaa history before phil's money.

5. they will be garbage next season. mark my word. the preseason hype is ridiculous for a team that loses every major player, but qb and never really had any depth in the first place.
 
#266
#266
JZVOL said:
"Tennessee definitely has a better history, but the results over the past decade are far more comparable."

And we fired our coach because he was on par with Oregon. At UT comparing to Oregon's "success" gets you fired.
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lol yeah that pretty much sums it all up right there! lol:yes:
 
#267
#267
I used to like Oregon, now I want them to lose every game they play in.

As many others have pointed out, they like to compare their results to UT's last 10 years when we fired a HOF coach for that very same time span. Interesting
 
#268
#268
wheaton4prez said:
Strength of Schedule:

2008:
Oregon 22
UT 31
USATODAY.com

2007:
Oregon 5
UT 9
USATODAY.com

2006:
Oregon 6
UT 4
USATODAY.com

2005:
Oregon 34
UT 32
USATODAY.com

2004:
Oregon 30
UT 37
USATODAY.com

2003:
Oregon 32
UT 30
USATODAY.com

2002:
Oregon 52
UT 45
USATODAY.com

2001:
Oregon 26
UT 1
USATODAY.com

2000:
Oregon 25
UT 70
USATODAY.com

1999:
Oregon 48
UT 14
USATODAY.com


Oregon's strength of schedule over the last 10 years has been tougher than Tennessee's 4 times. I'm pretty sure that, with Boise State and Utah as OOC games, the Ducks strength of schedule will be tougher than UT's in 2009. That will put the 10 year comparison at even between the teams. Not what one would expect if you listen to SEC homers superiority talk.
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I don't buy that 31 teams had a tougher schedule in 2005 than Tennessee. And if you're using Sagarin... no one around here really gives a crap about what he thinks. He's always been biased against the SEC. Am I really supposed to believe that Duke had the 6th toughest schedule last season? I mean they played in the nation's worst conference and one of their OOC opponents was James Madison.

And somehow South Carolina had a really tough schedule. I guess Clemson was a whole lot better than Alabama. Oh wait...

These ratings are complete garbage. Try again.
 
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#270
#270
I see Dickens is over there stirring the pot....And here I thought I was the only one of this board who liked torturing fans of other teams...I am probably the most hated poster in the history of Gatorsports.com haha!!...I really shouldn't go there but damn its so much fun bashing them to pieces.
 
#271
#271
duckyness said:
I'd love to see that.

I'm not trying to hurt you pride guys, but Oregon has been recorded loudest ever. If you have something else to prove that it's not, then just STFU
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Actually - Clemson, the other death valley - has the loudest RECORDED decibel level against Miami or BC a few years ago. Nice try though.

Key word: recorded - meaning not every game and moment at every stadium has been monitored. Once again - good try.

Edit: wow - I realize all that crap was posted at 3am and I'm waaay behind - but you actually continued to make a huge douche of yourself and make yourself look even more stupid through out the thread.
 
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#272
#272
"Why is it so loud at Autzen? Why can't you hear the guy next to you yelling or even yourself for that matter? Because as Tedford says, everyone's loud the whole time. That, and the architecture. In the corners you're only 8 yards from the end zone. On the sidelines, you're only 15 yards from .... the field. 45 feet to the field from the front row. The shortest distance of any major college stadium"
 
#275
#275
VOLnMiami said:
I see Dickens is over there stirring the pot....And here I thought I was the only one of this board who liked torturing fans of other teams...I am probably the most hated poster in the history of Gatorsports.com haha!!...I really shouldn't go there but damn its so much fun bashing them to pieces.
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Don't sell yourself short, you torture us as well.
 
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