Sour Grapes from Oregon

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wheaton4prez said:
Based on the success Kelly has achieved since he arrived at Oregon, already with many variations of players and wrenches thrown at him. This years class wasn't the highest Oregon has had stars wise. But, there were a number of great pick-ups at key positions. 2010 looks to be a huge class for Oregon. Possibly the best they have ever had. So, yeah, I think Oregon has as much of a chance as UT. The wide consensus seems to lean Oregon as well, given the pre-season rankings.
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How many commits do you have as of now, and what indication do you have that leads you to believe you might crack the top 10?

At least going back to 2002 on Rivals you guys have never had a top 10 recruiting class.

Where do you guys get most of your recruits? Cali I'd assume.

Oh and it was good to see Terence Scott from Knoxville have a very nice season for you guys!
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Based on the success Kelly has achieved since he arrived at Oregon, already with many variations of players and wrenches thrown at him. This years class wasn't the highest Oregon has had stars wise. But, there were a number of great pick-ups at key positions. 2010 looks to be a huge class for Oregon. Possibly the best they have ever had. So, yeah, I think Oregon has as much of a chance as UT. The wide consensus seems to lean Oregon as well, given the pre-season rankings.
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The odds are, Tennessee will end up with a higher ranked recruiting class next year than Oregon. So what does that say about chances being "equal" for the each team to have continued success?
 
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the state of oregon produces almost zero div 1a players. eugene isn't exactly a prime destination either. i'd argue oregon has already topped out recruiting wise. they had some nice years when SC, Cal, and UCLA were in the toilet, but they just aren't going to outrecruit those 3 when they are competitive. if you look at the recruiting rankings the past 6 years you need to realize that oregon has far more guys not qualify than sc, cal or ucla. Their recruiting therefore has been around 4th in the pac-10. great for oregon certainly, but no where near where it needs to be to be an elite team.
 
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duckyness said:
I can't brag about a season in which we went 12-1 and obviously deserved a shot at the NC but instead Nebraska(who got the behinds handed to them by Colorado,who Oregon killed in fiesta) got killed in NC?

If you have done that lately, I'd love to hear
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if nebraska wouldn't have been miami's punching bag, it would have been oregon. miami was a great team that year, oregon would have lost what probably would have been not a very close game.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Autzen is loud because of the fans. It was built before Knight was involved in supporting the program and architecture is not the reason. Though, I think that it's pretty amusing that someone who has been there thinks it was too loud to not have some technical reason behind it.


Again, we're flattered that other people think we're too loud to be humanly possible. There is no magic trick. Just intense fans.
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PM me. I'll pay airfare and your ticket for the Oregon -UT game in Knoxville. That way you can see "intense fans."

Ask Tedford about the noise in Neyland.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I will make it out there in '10 if I can (and if I can afford the purses and shoes needed to swing the deal with my wife).
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Yep, you gotta smooth things over with the woman, that's always the case in relation to football.

2010 will be a great game.
 
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btw what a primitive message board over there in Duck country. That thing looks like it hasnt been updated since the words Akili Smith And NFL prospect were being thrown around.
 
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duckyness said:
Last 10 years guys Oregon 1 BCS win. Tennesse ZERO
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duckyness said:
Keyword: Since BCS era.

I can't take BCS seriously, sorry.

Pac-10 has been robbed numerous times out of either a BCS game or a BCS title game.
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duckman398686 said:
and yet you brag about going to bcs games. irony sucks.....
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Good catch duckman.

BTW Ducky. If you want to talk about getting robbed, the PAC1's only BCS NC was the year that Auburn went 13-0. Talk about getting robbed.
 
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JZVOL said:
For next season, yes. It's going to take 2-3 years for UT to get back to what it's used to, no doubt about. However if and when we land a top notch qb a lot of problems will be fixed.
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There's always the x factor. The year Dixon had his break-out, everybody was thinking that QB was our biggest weakness. I made a push to improve our season tickets that year because I felt like expectations were lower than usual and seats would be available. So, I ended up with a front row view of Dixon going nuts.

Just saying that you guys could turn things around faster than 2-3 years in unexpected ways. I've seen it happen.

IPorange said:
The odds are, Tennessee will end up with a higher ranked recruiting class next year than Oregon. So what does that say about chances being "equal" for the each team to have continued success?
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I think that a lot is dependent on success on the field this season, for both teams. If Oregon ends at or above pre-season rankings and UT doesn't improve more than 2-3 wins, I think Oregon ends up with a bigger class. Can't prove that point. I just think a lot rests on this season for each program.

droski said:
the state of oregon produces almost zero div 1a players. eugene isn't exactly a prime destination either. i'd argue oregon has already topped out recruiting wise. they had some nice years when SC, Cal, and UCLA were in the toilet, but they just aren't going to outrecruit those 3 when they are competitive. if you look at the recruiting rankings the past 6 years you need to realize that oregon has far more guys not qualify than sc, cal or ucla. Their recruiting therefore has been around 4th in the pac-10. great for oregon certainly, but no where near where it needs to be to be an elite team.
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This guy disagrees: Bruce Feldman: Powerhouses under construction - ESPN

It's true that the state of Oregon isn't much of a resource. But, the Ducks have built a lot of momentum getting recruits from beyond the West coast over the last few years. They're picking up guys from Florida, Kansas, Texas, etc. these days. Picked up a lot of the better recruits from the bay area this year, coincidentally.

Houndstooth said:
Yep, you gotta smooth things over with the woman, that's always the case in relation to football.

2010 will be a great game.
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Fortunately, she's a sports fan also. So, it's pretty easy most of the time. As long as I help watch the kids when her Syracuse basketball is on. :)

JZVOL said:
How many commits do you have as of now, and what indication do you have that leads you to believe you might crack the top 10?

At least going back to 2002 on Rivals you guys have never had a top 10 recruiting class.

Where do you guys get most of your recruits? Cali I'd assume.

Oh and it was good to see Terence Scott from Knoxville have a very nice season for you guys!
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We have two 4* players right now for '10 and reportedly lead for a bunch of quality players. Are in the mix for a lot of the top 100 guys. How many we can hold on to depends on performance this season, imo.

Several do come from California. But, they've been having success in a lot of new states lately.

Scott turned out to have a great season. We were pretty light at WR. So, it was key for him to step up.
 
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duckman398686 said:
if nebraska wouldn't have been miami's punching bag, it would have been oregon. miami was a great team that year, oregon would have lost what probably would have been not a very close game.
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Just like pretty much everyone around here agrees UT would have been Miami's punching bag if we hadn't choked against LSU in the SECCG. In terms of NFL talent that '01 Miami team was probably the best team of this decade.
 
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It's funny to me how all these Oregon fans throw out these "past 10 years" stats comparing themselves to other schools. It like the past 10 years is their entire football history (which it pretty much is). Most true "national powers" have been good for SEVERAL decades. It's not all that hard for a team to catch a conference during a down phase and have a good 5-10 year run. If Oregon can continue to sustain their success for a serious length of time then maybe they could be in a discussion like this some day, but not yet.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Just like pretty much everyone around here agrees UT would have been Miami's punching bag if we hadn't choked against LSU in the SECCG. In terms of NFL talent that '01 Miami team was probably the best team of this decade.
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not saying that ut would have beaten miami, but i do think that ut could have given them a better game than either nebraska or oregon. just my 2 cents.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
This guy disagrees: Bruce Feldman: Powerhouses under construction - ESPN

It's true that the state of Oregon isn't much of a resource. But, the Ducks have built a lot of momentum getting recruits from beyond the West coast over the last few years. They're picking up guys from Florida, Kansas, Texas, etc. these days. Picked up a lot of the better recruits from the bay area this year, coincidentally.
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feldman's completely off base. what does oregon offer people from out of state exactly? superior education. nope. tradition. nope. location. nope.

as for bay area recruits tedford has never lost a bay area recruit he wanted to oregon, so don't expect that to change. and tedford has picked up quite a few nice talents from oregon.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think that a lot is dependent on success on the field this season, for both teams. If Oregon ends at or above pre-season rankings and UT doesn't improve more than 2-3 wins, I think Oregon ends up with a bigger class. Can't prove that point. I just think a lot rests on this season for each program.
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Well UT finished 5-7 hired a new coach and finished recruiting ranked 10th and got the overall number one player.

Oregon finished with it's second best season ever and didn't finish in the top 25 in recruiting.

Interesting.
 
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I can't take credit for this, but I thought it was appropriate.
 
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Growth by year
1919 west stand 2000-2000
1921 Original West Stands 3200 seats-3200
1926 East Stands 3600 seats-6800
1929 West Stands 11,060 seats - 17,860
1937 North Section X 1500 seats - 19,360
1938 East Stands 12,030 seats - 31,390
1948 South Stands 15,000 seats - 46,390
1962 West Upper Deck press box, 5837 seats - 52,227
1966 North Stands 5895 seats - 58,122
1968 East Upper Deck 6307 seats - 64,429
1972 Southwest Upper Deck 6221 seats - 70,650
1976 Southeast Upper Deck 9600 seats - 80,250
1980 North Stands net gain 10,999 seats - 91,249
1987 West Executive Suites 42 suites - 91,110
1990 Student Seating Adjustment 792 seats - 91,902
1996 North Upper Deck 10,642 seats - 102,544
1997 ADA Seating Adjustment 310 seats - 102,854
2000 East Executive Suites 78 suites - 104,079
2006 East Clubs Seats Club Level - 102,037

Looking at the history of Neyland stadium it looks as if Autzen stadium is the same size as Neyland in the mid 60's...congrats!!:clapping::crazy:
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