Sousa out as director of the POSL...

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bamacheats said:
Other than forming the T, I've always found the band boring.
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The pregame show they put on is the best of all of college football. Thankfully that is not going to be touched at all. I wish and hope that now they will incorporate newer songs, etc.....but this band is one of the best. As a matter of fact I saw where it is Top 10 all time....and is the only SEC school to boast that.
 
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allvol9 said:
the pregame show they put on is the best of all of college football. Thankfully that is not going to be touched at all. I wish and hope that now they will incorporate newer songs, etc.....but this band is one of the best. As a matter of fact i saw where it is top 10 all time....and is the only sec school to boast that.
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lsu
 
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“I wholeheartedly support the right of students to be engaged and advocate for a cause about which they are passionate. But I am troubled by the use of inaccurate or misleading statements,” Cheek said.
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Cheek must be troubled everyday when he looks in the mirror.
 
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Orange Alert said:
Top 10 all time what? Best bands? How do you rank marching bands?
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A lot of ways.

1) tradition. I think this is the most important one for a college level band (high school bands compete and thus have a different criteria for what make them great). Few bands can boast the amount of tradition the pride of the southland has. Moments like the opening of the T or the dotting of the "I" for OSU are irreplaceable in college football culture.

2) sound. The band needs to sound good. And no this isn't synonymous with loud. As a woodwind player, I would be distraught of I was told I had to play mellophone. A marching band has a very different sound from a drum corps and woodwinds are a huge part of the sound to me. The pride has a very fine sound. Intonation is great and blend seems to be top notch (sound equipment helps with that)

3. Technique. The prides technique is amazing. It takes a lot to march like they do and it's a spectacle to see when it's spot on (it usually is)
 
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whobethis16 said:
I love how people always try to make passive-aggressive jabs at others who defend someone who, up until now, has done everything the right way. But if you think the AD would've cut the travel down this much with Julian, or even the previous AD, you're crazy. It's easy for you to say "get over it" to the current members, but I doubt you'd be saying that if you were a current member. Or it happened to you when you marched. I just know that Sousa would not have let it explode like this if he saw a way to resolve it. Accept that or not, that's the way it is.
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Maybe you're right. Maybe I would see things differently if it happenned while I was there. Strange thing is, I grew up. There are bigger problems in the world than having your travel budget cut.

And Doc would never have sent a student to fight his battle for him. He never had a problem telling anyone exactly how he felt.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I don't see the cheer squad sit at home on road games. Not once.
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Taking a pep band is almost 3x as many people as taking the cheerleaders. Plus the cheerleaders stand on the sideline and don't take up seats.
 
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Weezer said:
Taking a pep band is almost 3x as many people as taking the cheerleaders. Plus the cheerleaders stand on the sideline and don't take up seats.
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Most of the time they like to sit on my lap, so again, not taking up seats that could be sold to the general public.
 
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Ok, I'll give you the Oregon game, Mr. Deerpark. However, I can't believe, if the AD really values the work the band does, they wouldn't send a pep band to all conference games. First off, in 2011, he (Hart) informed the band 2 weeks before the trip that no band was going. The former regime was sending one. Second: why would they not want to send at least some bit of Neyland to Missouri? Granted at the time they would have no idea, but Missouri is possibly going to be 8-0, top 10, leading the East when we go in. Why would they decide to not have Rocky Top in there?

Those that say the home band decides if the visiting band comes are wrong. The home team decides if halftime activities will allow time for a performance, but not making the trip. That is solely on the visiting team.
 
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Weezer said:
Maybe you're right. Maybe I would see things differently if it happenned while I was there. Strange thing is, I grew up. There are bigger problems in the world than having your travel budget cut.

And Doc would never have sent a student to fight his battle for him. He never had a problem telling anyone exactly how he felt.
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Sousa told them how he felt. He lifted the no response policy and said "Do what you want." It was the drum major's choice to act.

Yeah, like manipulating and bribing 17 year olds to take a free ride to a University they couldn't care less about to play a game. Yeah, so important.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Ok, I'll give you the Oregon game, Mr. Deerpark. However, I can't believe, if the AD really values the work the band does, they wouldn't send a pep band to all conference games. First off, in 2011, he (Hart) informed the band 2 weeks before the trip that no band was going. The former regime was sending one. Second: why would they not want to send at least some bit of Neyland to Missouri? Granted at the time they would have no idea, but Missouri is possibly going to be 8-0, top 10, leading the East when we go in. Why would they decide to not have Rocky Top in there?

Those that say the home band decides if the visiting band comes are wrong. The home team decides if halftime activities will allow time for a performance, but not making the trip. That is solely on the visiting team.
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You should check your facts on the 2011 Arkansas trip. Hart just told the band that the pep band couldn't fly. Sousa declined to let the pep band take a bus for that trip. He thought that if they made it an issue, they would still fly. He lost that one.

Same thing for Mizzou this year. They were given the option to send a pep band. Sousa decided to instead let the full band spend an extra night in Florida, which meant the Mizzou game was cut and the Kentucky game pep band would be reduced. He did that. He decided how the travel budget was allocated. Not anyone with athletics.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You should check your facts on the 2011 Arkansas trip. Hart just told the band that the pep band couldn't fly. Sousa declined to let the pep band take a bus for that trip. He thought that if they made it an issue, they would still fly. He lost that one.

Same thing for Mizzou this year. They were given the option to send a pep band. Sousa decided to instead let the full band spend an extra night in Florida, which meant the Mizzou game was cut and the Kentucky game pep band would be reduced. He did that. He decided how the travel budget was allocated. Not anyone with athletics.
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Boom?
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You should check your facts on the 2011 Arkansas trip. Hart just told the band that the pep band couldn't fly. Sousa declined to let the pep band take a bus for that trip. He thought that if they made it an issue, they would still fly. He lost that one.

Same thing for Mizzou this year. They were given the option to send a pep band. Sousa decided to instead let the full band spend an extra night in Florida, which meant the Mizzou game was cut and the Kentucky game pep band would be reduced. He did that. He decided how the travel budget was allocated. Not anyone with athletics.
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Orange Blazer said:
Boom?
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If true, definately some boomage there.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Sousa told them how he felt. He lifted the no response policy and said "Do what you want." It was the drum major's choice to act.

Yeah, like manipulating and bribing 17 year olds to take a free ride to a University they couldn't care less about to play a game. Yeah, so important.
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You lost me with this. WTF are you talking about?
 
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hmanvolfan said:
Most of the time they like to sit on my lap, so again, not taking up seats that could be sold to the general public.
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Squirrel, that's kind of you to give those male cheerleaders a place to sit. I'm sure they get tired lifting those girls up all game. :)

Seriously, if today's cheerleaders are anything like the ones from my time on the Hill, all you'd need is money to buy them nice things. Those girls were golddiggers and took no shame in discussing it.
 
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emzeeee said:
lsu
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If you are saying that LSU is a top 10 band then I can't disagree. If you are saying their pregame is equal to ours, I can't disagree more. It gets their fans riled up but it looks and sounds terrible. Mostly park and bark and the only thing they play that matters to the fans is that little 4 note fanfare. Terrible show.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You should check your facts on the 2011 Arkansas trip. Hart just told the band that the pep band couldn't fly. Sousa declined to let the pep band take a bus for that trip. He thought that if they made it an issue, they would still fly. He lost that one.

Same thing for Mizzou this year. They were given the option to send a pep band. Sousa decided to instead let the full band spend an extra night in Florida, which meant the Mizzou game was cut and the Kentucky game pep band would be reduced. He did that. He decided how the travel budget was allocated. Not anyone with athletics.
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Sousa did something similar in 2005. Sent a pep band to Florida so the whole band could go to Notre Dame/Chicago.
 
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