South Carolina is about to take the attendance title away

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I can't believe some of these comments! Of course SC's attendance will be higher, they are having a historical season. Please tell me how Dawn has out recruited Holly. Everybody with a brain knew A'ja Wilson was going to South Carolina. Besides Wilson who else in that freshman signing class is playing lights out. A supposedly spectacular #2 team barely got by a beat up undermanned team that had a chance to win the game! All of sudden South Carolina is the next big thing and Dawnis a mastermind of a coach and recruiter! Lol! Only reason South Carolina beat us is because we were undersized and got out rebounded. Please tell me what South Carolina has done that the Lady Vols haven't. I know some of y'all can not be fans. Its one thing to be truthful, but to try to find any and every negative thing to point out regarding Holly and the Lady Vols is ridiculous! I believe some of you want Holly and the Lady Vols to fail so bad on the inside, but you portray like you really care. Of course the program has declined from the Parker/Summitt era. Holly is a fairly new coach and there was a transition. Holly already has a tough time scheduling good opponents and teams are saying no. Then she has to deal with negative recruiting against Tennessee, where opposing staffs are using dirty tactics to steer recruits away, but she is still succeeding in keeping the Lady Vols near the top. Do you just want to win at any cost or win with integrity? People keep coming for this lady when she is trying her best to keep this program near the top without cheating. Go Holly! Go Lady Vols!
 
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It is quite obvious why our attendance has dropped to many cupcakes on the schedule. We do well when were playing a good opponent not so much when we play Penn, Oral Roberts or Wichita State.

SEC home 11727 a game which should get us to 12136 with 15000 today. Cupcake home games 9187 per game. Stanford and Oregon State home games 12109 per game.
So all we have to do is play better competition that interests the fans.
176576 for the season and slightly over 11000 a game. You take out the cupcake games were over 12000.
UConn has the same problem can't draw any fans to the cupcake games so they usually end up with an average less than 10000 a game.

SC will win average per game. If we draw 15000 today we win total attendance because we played more home games.

SEC attendance Tennessee 12136 per game
SC 14516 per game. Their men's team does not draw that many fans.
SC Men 12697 per game in the SEC. The women have outdrawn their men by about 2000 a game.


I think there is a huge excitement in their program because they have a chance at a National title. Plus they have been a doormat of the SEC with 4 wins in 51 tries versus Tennessee. When you draw 16000 to play the Auburn women you know there is excitement there.
 
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how many tickets were paid tickets? would be interesting to find out.
 
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This is my take. As someone said, South Carolina currently has a lot of bandwagon fans– people who only became interested in women’s basketball when it became obvious that their program would be competitive. The program may be able to sustain that fan base, but if the program has a let-down over the next few years, I’m not sure if that will happen. I’m always happy to see abundant interest in the women’s game, so more power to them if they can sustain that fan base. I truly hope it happens. That’s a GOOD thing for the women’s game.

Another thing I notice is that South Carolina fans seem to truly embrace the women’s program (at least as it currently stands), they embrace their coach, and they embrace their players. Far too many Tennessee fans have a disparaging view of the women’s game, which is utterly ridiculous. They proudly support UT’s football and men’s basketball programs, even when those programs are losing, but then they turn around and take every cheap and utterly stupid, misogynistic, mean-spirited pot-shot they can at Holly, her team, and the Lady Vols program in general. Just look at what some of these idiots post on this board; sadly, what's posted here is tame compared to what is posted on other Tennessee fan boards. They have no pride in the program and no respect for those who are a part of it. If I had a quarter for every time I read or heard some stupid Tennessee “fan” say something along the lines of, “It’s women’s basketball, it doesn’t count” or make other sundry disparaging comments about the coaches, players, or program in general, I could probably singlehandedly pay Holly’s salary. When it comes to supporting the women’s basketball program, South Carolina’s fan base has conducted itself with far more class and maturity than Tennessee’s fan base.

You know, I could see the fan base being malcontent with Holly or with the program if recruiting had completely tanked, if the team had taken a nosedive out of the Top 25, if players were transferring out of the program or appeared to be unhappy with Holly or her staff, or if the team was losing more games than it was winning. However, that’s not the case. That’s not even close to being the case. Even with injuries, the team is a solid Top 5 team and will likely move into the Top 5 rankings this week now that #3 Baylor has lost two in a row to unranked teams. The Lady Vols are looking at a #1 seed (or, at the worst, a top #2 seed) in the NCAA tournament. Minus not signing a post for 2015 (and posts in that class were very limited to begin with), recruiting has been more than solid. Holly has an outstanding win-loss record for a third year head coach. She has an outstanding win-loss record for a coach, period. In fact, her undersized, injury-hampered team very nearly beat South Carolina on South Carolina’s home court last week. There is no doubt in my mind that Holly outcoached Dawn in that game, as she has done every year that she has been Tennessee’s coach; with a healthy Izzy, they would have won. Fans have zero reason not to support this team and this coach, and yet they take every chance they can to prove just how unreasonable and childish they truly are. So before you start blaming Holly for a drop in attendance, maybe you need to take a look at the ridiculous fans who at their best totally dismiss the program as irrelevant and at their worst take pleasure in deriding, demeaning, and mocking their school's most successful program instead of supporting it.

Face it, the Tennessee fan base is comprised of a lot of misogynistic pricks who would like nothing more than to see Holly fail and to watch the women’s basketball program fall, and that kind of thinking is so positively absurd that I have a hard time wrapping my head around it. When it comes to any discussion of Holly or the Lady Vols in general, they act like immature pieces of s***. At this point, South Carolina’s fan base beats Tennessee’s in a lot more than just attendance, and that’s a real shame.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
It is quite obvious why our attendance has dropped to many cupcakes on the schedule. We do well when were playing a good opponent not so much when we play Penn, Oral Roberts or Wichita State.
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Tennessee has one of the top 5 RPIs and SOSs in wcbb this season. USC's is decent, but below UT's....


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SC will win average per game. If we draw 15000 today we win total attendance because we played more home games.
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Well........duuuh, yeah. But would that actually be a "win", just because you scheduled more home games while USC chose to participate in neutral-site tournaments in the Bahamas and Minnesota?

Volfan2012 said:
I think there is a huge excitement in their program because they have a chance at a National title. Plus they have been a doormat of the SEC with 4 wins in 51 tries versus Tennessee. When you draw 16000 to play the Auburn women you know there is excitement there.
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Auburn was USC's SEC-season opening opponent for 2015, and was 9-4 at the time. It was also the first home game in CLA (on Jan. 2nd) since they played lowly Savannah State on Dec. 14th. The fanbase was going to show up in huge numbers for the first SEC home game, regardless of who the opponent would be...
 
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ivyleague said:
Holly isn't going anywhere until 1) she retires or 2) she decides to otherwise step down. I don't see either happening any time soon, and that's a good thing.
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Exactly. I don't understand why people keep talking about it. It's just wasted energy. She's not going anywhere.
 
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stubbs9 said:
Exactly. I don't understand why people keep talking about it. It's just wasted energy. She's not going anywhere.
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Nor should she. She deserves the support of the fan base, not the derision and ire that the malcontents like to dish out. Fortunately, the NegaVols are a small segment of the fan base; unfortunately, they have big mouths, unlimited internet access, and a distinct inability to shut the hell up.
 
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ivyleague said:
Nor should she. She deserves the support of the fan base, not the derision and ire that the malcontents like to dish out. Fortunately, the NegaVols are a small segment of the fan base; unfortunately, they have big mouths, unlimited internet access, and a distinct inability to shut the hell up.
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Succinct and spot on. Those that can, coach. Those that can't, rant on VolNation.
 
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ivyleague said:
Holly isn't going anywhere until 1) she retires or 2) she decides to otherwise step down. I don't see either happening any time soon, and that's a good thing.
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I certainly hope you are wrong, or she realizes she is not a good coach and retires this year. Now what you said above was absolutely true about CPS, SHE COULD WRITE HER OWN TICKET. Holly is not Pat, and Holly can be fired, and will be when attendance drops down to around 5000. Then we start losing with a team full of Holly's players. Attendance is going to continue to drop, players next year are not her going to change that. I have not attended a game since she became coach. I will not go to a VOLS wbb game while she is coaching either. She should never have been hired in the first place. Also, if boosters who donate big money to the university want her gone, she is a dead woman walking at that point. Any coach in any sport who gets cought in that is gone. It does not matter how many people get on here and moan and groan for CHW's coaching life. Money get's cut off coaches get fired, the only thing she has going for her is it is wbb not football which is the tail that must wag the dog at UT. Football is high profile. WBB is not, so it will fly under the radar for longer. I just do not understand why all of you love Holly so much. Seems to me, you would love to see the Vols win NC's and would rather have a coach that can do that than keep preaching to save Holly. It seems it is more important to some of you to save HW that it is to save the program.
 
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ALLVOL24/7/365 said:
I just do not understand why all of you love Holly so much. Seems to me, you would love to see the Vols win NC's and would rather have a coach that can do that than keep preaching to save Holly. It seems it is more important to some of you to save HW that it is to save the program.
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Well a lot of fans don't seem to love Holly so much, and that was my point about the growing apathy in the fanbase. I never said nor implied Holly was going anywhere, I just answered a hypothetical question to someone who then complained it was even brought up.

Holly isn't on the hot-seat now, and Harrison's injury gives her a reprieve for this season. Next year, no more excuses....
 
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ALLVOL24/7/365 said:
I certainly hope you are wrong, or she realizes she is not a good coach and retires this year. Now what you said above was absolutely true about CPS, SHE COULD WRITE HER OWN TICKET. Holly is not Pat, and Holly can be fired, and will be when attendance drops down to around 5000. Then we start losing with a team full of Holly's players. Attendance is going to continue to drop, players next year are not her going to change that. I have not attended a game since she became coach. I will not go to a VOLS wbb game while she is coaching either. She should never have been hired in the first place. Also, if boosters who donate big money to the university want her gone, she is a dead woman walking at that point. Any coach in any sport who gets cought in that is gone. It does not matter how many people get on here and moan and groan for CHW's coaching life. Money get's cut off coaches get fired, the only thing she has going for her is it is wbb not football which is the tail that must wag the dog at UT. Football is high profile. WBB is not, so it will fly under the radar for longer. I just do not understand why all of you love Holly so much. Seems to me, you would love to see the Vols win NC's and would rather have a coach that can do that than keep preaching to save Holly. It seems it is more important to some of you to save HW that it is to save the program.
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This is the most laughable post that I have ever read on this board.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Attendance has declined every year since Holly took over. But I'm sure that's coincidence.

Embarrassing, and just another bit of recruiting leverage Dawn has on Holly... as if she needed it.
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yeah.. tons of leverage..

Until the recruits visit SC and look up to the rafters and see all those National Championship banners..

Ya'll are ridiculous.
 
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Has anybody heard what attendance tonight? I was at game but they didn't announce it tonight like they usually do.
 
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Where are all the fake Lady Vols fans anointing Staley and her team the next big thing? Yeah, but she is so a great coach. I bet Charlie Creme looks very stupid right now also. He talked about how the Lady Vols barely escaped by Kentucky in Lexington, but the almighty #2 Gamecocks just lost by double digits. I bet y'all are not singing her praises now! Go Lady Vols!
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Well a lot of fans don't seem to love Holly so much, and that was my point about the growing apathy in the fanbase. I never said nor implied Holly was going anywhere, I just answered a hypothetical question to someone who then complained it was even brought up.

Holly isn't on the hot-seat now, and Harrison's injury gives her a reprieve for this season. Next year, no more excuses....
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I could name about 5 or 6 of you malcontents who post such asinine statements, all of whom should shut up and find a life. You just make me sick.
 
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ALLVOL24/7/365 said:
I certainly hope you are wrong, or she realizes she is not a good coach and retires this year. Now what you said above was absolutely true about CPS, SHE COULD WRITE HER OWN TICKET. Holly is not Pat, and Holly can be fired, and will be when attendance drops down to around 5000. Then we start losing with a team full of Holly's players. Attendance is going to continue to drop, players next year are not her going to change that. I have not attended a game since she became coach. I will not go to a VOLS wbb game while she is coaching either. She should never have been hired in the first place. Also, if boosters who donate big money to the university want her gone, she is a dead woman walking at that point. Any coach in any sport who gets cought in that is gone. It does not matter how many people get on here and moan and groan for CHW's coaching life. Money get's cut off coaches get fired, the only thing she has going for her is it is wbb not football which is the tail that must wag the dog at UT. Football is high profile. WBB is not, so it will fly under the radar for longer. I just do not understand why all of you love Holly so much. Seems to me, you would love to see the Vols win NC's and would rather have a coach that can do that than keep preaching to save Holly. It seems it is more important to some of you to save HW that it is to save the program.
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ALLVOL24/7/365 said:
I certainly hope you are wrong, or she realizes she is not a good coach and retires this year. Now what you said above was absolutely true about CPS, SHE COULD WRITE HER OWN TICKET. Holly is not Pat, and Holly can be fired, and will be when attendance drops down to around 5000. Then we start losing with a team full of Holly's players. Attendance is going to continue to drop, players next year are not her going to change that. I have not attended a game since she became coach. I will not go to a VOLS wbb game while she is coaching either. She should never have been hired in the first place. Also, if boosters who donate big money to the university want her gone, she is a dead woman walking at that point. Any coach in any sport who gets cought in that is gone. It does not matter how many people get on here and moan and groan for CHW's coaching life. Money get's cut off coaches get fired, the only thing she has going for her is it is wbb not football which is the tail that must wag the dog at UT. Football is high profile. WBB is not, so it will fly under the radar for longer. I just do not understand why all of you love Holly so much. Seems to me, you would love to see the Vols win NC's and would rather have a coach that can do that than keep preaching to save Holly. It seems it is more important to some of you to save HW that it is to save the program.
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I don't understand the hate for Holly. Holly isn't going anywhere.
 
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