Sports Illustrated Reports A Rod...

#26
#26
Moral grandstanding has 0 to do with why I don't like baseball. But, all this drama is just another reason to not care about the MLB.
 
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#27
GAVol said:
The naivete it takes to take a moralist stance with regard to professional athletes is mind boggling.
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Dana Stubblefield pleads guilty in federal court and agrees to provide the Feds with the names of trainers and players in the NFL engaged in the use and trafficking of steroids. Nobody pays attention. Alex Rodriguez allegedly tests positive for steroids and everyone goes nuts.
 
#28
#28
The faster the pace becomes in this world the more it hurts baseball. People don't want to follow a season that consist of 182 regular season games when they have 200 channels on their TV and information at the click of a mouse. We have become too impatient for a sport like baseball. Imagine how much better the games would be if baseball only played 16 games in a season?
 
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615 Vol said:
The faster the pace becomes in this world the more it hurts baseball. People don't want to follow a season that consist of 182 regular season games when they have 200 channels on their TV and information at the click of a mouse. We have become too impatient for a sport like baseball. Imagine how much better the games would be if baseball only played 16 games in a season?
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umm...no. i can't imagine, actually.


regarding Stubblefield, i can't wait to hear the names that come out this story. he was always the kind of guy who made actually hearing this news not very shocking. hell, Shawne Merriman basically got to wipe his record clean.
 
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doozer said:
umm...no. i can't imagine, actually.


regarding Stubblefield, i can't wait to hear the names that come out this story. he was always the kind of guy who made actually hearing this news not very shocking. hell, Shawne Merriman basically got to wipe his record clean.
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Ummmm.......that doesn't surprise me. I am not endorsing a change in the baseball schedule, just pointing out that one of the reasons football is so popular because every game is so important to win. Before you point out all the other reasons football is popular please notice that I used the word "one", those things tend to get looked over in here.
 
#32
#32
TennesseeFan07 said:
Exactly, some people can't accept reality that Barry is an all-time great. Hopefully now that A-Rod and Clemens and Pettite, etc. have shown up positive, some people will begin to give Barry the credit he deserves. Unfortunately, probably not.
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This is what kills me about Bonds. He was an all-timer, one of the 25 best players in history before he ever (apparently) did anything. Now people are willing to throw out his whole career. And I would argue that his late-career Superman period was due at least as much to the way he started wearing body armor and standing right on top of the plate (and that pitchers let him get away with it without putting his ass in the dirt) as to anything that he put in his bloodstream. If Sammy Sosa doesn't juice, he's an afterthought. If Barry Bonds doesn't juice, he's still a Hall of Famer.

There is literally only one major-leaguer that it would shock me to hear had been juicing at this point, and that's Greg Maddux. I'm pretty sure that that guy's body has never been enhanced by anything. Even including, you know, exercise.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
There is literally only one major-leaguer that it would shock me to hear had been juicing at this point, and that's Greg Maddux. I'm pretty sure that that guy's body has never been enhanced by anything. Even including, you know, exercise.
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I think it's safe to say that Rafael Belliard's stats are pretty legit as well.
 
#39
#39
the real question is if there are any pro athletes not taking roids? think about it logically. if taking a pill could tripple your earnings wouldn't YOU seriously consider it?
 
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droski said:
the real question is if there are any pro athletes not taking roids? think about it logically. if taking a pill could tripple your earnings wouldn't YOU seriously consider it?
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Absolutely. Especially in the steroid era. All these guys seeing their peers and teammates make these ridiculous gains and increased salaries. I'd do it just to make sure I knew I would keep my job.
 
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doozer said:
i appreciate his honesty.
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I think the honesty was purely the easiest route out. He's watched the guys that tried to lie about it get eviscerated and the guys that just owned up get it over with quickly.

Calculated decision and he'll now say that was then, this is now and I'm clean.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I think the honesty was purely the easiest route out. He's watched the guys that tried to lie about it get eviscerated and the guys that just owned up get it over with quickly.
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Exactly, although it's kind of hard to go the denial route when they are sitting there with a positive test.
 
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milohimself said:
Yes. Use of steroids, admitted or not, ought to have no bearing on one's HOF consideration. The histories of baseball and illegal performance enhancing drugs go hand in hand.
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100% agree. prove to me who didn't take roids and then we can start talking about who to eliminate because they are among the unlucky few who actually tested positive.
 
#48
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milohimself said:
Yes. Use of steroids, admitted or not, ought to have no bearing on one's HOF consideration. The histories of baseball and illegal performance enhancing drugs go hand in hand.
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agreed.

people forget that all the so called old timers were constantly hopped up on greenies.
 
#49
#49
A Rod has admitted to Peter Gammons the he used performance enhancing drugs.

What a shame he felt it necessary to cheat.
 
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#50
#50
i would of respected the guy if he came clean about it before he got caught.if he never got caught he would never tell.
 
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