Star Worshipping

#26
#26
Derek Dooley is in a situation where he has to recruit kids with a lot of character. He is also in a position to have to recruit and build this team up the middle on both sides of the line. Once he is able to build his foundation with young men of character, who will be around in 3-4 years, he can look to reach out a bit more and take some risks on some kids with question marks about their character. Now, Dooley needs kids who will play within the rules of the program and are coachable.

Here we go with the character posts again. A true sign that your program is in trouble.

According to this board, EVERY non-highly rated recruit that has a poor offer list = High Character Kid.
 
#28
#28
Take a look at the loss of players in the past 1-2 years, due to lack of character. It has gutted our roster and many guys who were being counted on to make a difference.
 
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#29
#29
And?? He's one of the exceptions to the rule or recruiting services. He's a bust, so move on. BTW, I bet if I dug up one of your posts from back then, I would say you would have been riding that train too.

I see how things work around here now. I move on from things I say and change my thoughts and mind just like the rest of the world, but yet people around here still want to point out I was wrong. Wow, big freaking deal someone was wrong on a message board!! You want a freaking pat on the back?? Some kind of merit badge for pointing it out??

I'm not faulting you here man, just don't get into the mode where you want to be like every other jackhole on this site and do that crap. If you want me to say I am wrong, fine, just don't be an ass about it.

He's not doing a "gotcha moment". He's just showing that your post is garbage by giving an example of when you did just the opposite of what you claim that you are an "advocate" of doing.
 
#33
#33
Take a look at the loss of players in the past 102 years, due to lack of character. It has gutted our roster and many guys who were being counted on to make a difference.

Remember something when discussing character and discussing out attrition.

Our attrition has to do with POOR evaluations and following up. There are plenty of highly rated kids that are of good character, but those are the kids that you can readily follow up with on a semi-weekly basis. There are those highly rated kids that have problems making good decisions too, and you also have issues communicating with them.

Once Dooley is in here for at least 2 years, we will have a lot of prospects evaluated from the time they are freshman in HS. That's the KEY to successful recruiting, not identifying diamonds in the rough 6 months before NSD.
 
#35
#35
He's not doing a "gotcha moment". He's just showing that your post is garbage by giving an example of when you did just the opposite of what you claim that you are an "advocate" of doing.

That sheet gives plenty of facts that I am wrong, but it's still my opinion. I never said I was right either, but I did say it contradicts my stance. I think it has to do more with the coaching staff and what they do with those players. There is a reason that they get those 4-5* guys, because prospects that have been following a program for years can typically identify which coaches can turn them out into players and which ones struggle to do so. Just being a 5* player doesn't mean success, but going to a contender with good coaches doesn't hurt.
 
#36
#36
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the last team to win an SEC title with only 3 star players.
 
#37
#37
Haha. Everyone should keep that in mind. If someone makes you look stupid on here, just accuse them of being mean to you.

You and others on here take this message board thing way too seriously man. Do you ever take a stance that doesn't agree with people who criticize you, or do you just fall in line with them and criticize those who have been wrong in the past??
 
#40
#40
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the last team to win an SEC title with only 3 star players.

The core of winning in the SEC starts with getting the most 4* players really. Those are the players with the most ceiling usually. I would rather have 26 4*'s myself.
 
#41
#41
You and others on here take this message board thing way too seriously man. Do you ever take a stance that doesn't agree with people who criticize you, or do you just fall in line with them and criticize those who have been wrong in the past??

No, I don't pretend like I take a certain approach to things, then have someone show me that that's not true, and then cry about them being a "jackhole" for pointing out the truth.
 
#43
#43
Gee....what did college coaches, teams, and their fans do before the star ratings were created?
 
#45
#45
No, I don't pretend like I take a certain approach to things, then have someone show me that that's not true, and then cry about them being a "jackhole" for pointing out the truth.

No, you just take no approach and fall into line with all the others jumping on people that they feel to be wrong. I've been around a long time on here my friend, and this place has evolved from being a good conversation based place, right or wrong, to a daily pissing contest between those who actually stick their neck out with an opinion, right or wrong, and those who just want to try and take everyone down. So, please don't stop, or then all the people you look up to on here will start attacking you for having an opinion.
 
#46
#46
Gee....what did college coaches, teams, and their fans do before the star ratings were created?

does it really matter since this is pretty much all about star ratings? You can knock them but they match up with the teams winning titles.
 
#47
#47
does it really matter since this is pretty much all about star ratings? You can knock them but they match up with the teams winning titles.

Remember another thing too, it's about in-state talent and being a relevant program with good coaches.
 
#49
#49
Recruiting and landing them are two totally different things. We'll see how it plays out in February.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. Dooley ended up closing the 2010 class pretty well considering the circumstances imo. It's only July and things are looking pretty good on the recruiting trail for the 2011 class it seems. It's doubful we won't fill our needs nicely and end up with a top 15 class IMO. But we'll keep debating until Feb...
 
#50
#50
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the last team to win an SEC title with only 3 star players.

Bama just won the Natl Title with a majority of 3star players.

Your point makes no sense anyways since we are signing 4 and 5stars with our 3stars.
 

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