Steve McNair found, shot to death

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Have they looked at her father?

This girl was 20 years old. Some 36 year old with a wife and 4 kids starts sniffing around my kid when she is 20. Famous athlete or not, I'll be the prime suspect when he turns up ventilated.

I'm a Titans and a McNair fan. I hate to say this but, it's looking like Steve made a mistake we males seem to make sometimes. Thinking with the wrong head. That mistake has gotten many men killed before McNair, and many are sure to follow.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Have they looked at her father?

This girl was 20 years old. Some 36 year old with a wife and 4 kids starts sniffing around my kid when she is 20. Famous athlete or not, I'll be the prime suspect when he turns up ventilated.
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Honestly, that is just dumb. You would consider killing the man your daughter freely chose to associate with because you don't like his age, marital status, etc?
 
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if someone else did in fact kill mcnair and his gf they had to have a key. the authorities said there were no signs of a break in.
 
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allvol123 said:
Honestly, that is just dumb. You would consider killing the man your daughter freely chose to associate with because you don't like his age, marital status, etc?
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+1

although Savage does rather enjoy informing us about the circumstances under which he would shoot someone.
 
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emainvol said:
+1

although Savage does rather enjoy informing us about the circumstances under which he would shoot someone.
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My kid is about the only thing in my life worth killing over.

However, you would definitely qualify as a 'Neighborhood Beautification Project'. :)

Keep your personal attacks to yourself, punk.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
My kid is about the only thing in my life worth killing over.

However, you would definitely qualify as a 'Neighborhood Beautification Project'. :)

Keep your personal attacks to yourself, punk.
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I don't know how citing your prior posts qualifies as a personal attack, but whatever.

Since you brought it up, would you also shoot your daughter in that situation?
 
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allvol123 said:
I have two of them and one is a girl. So I'm back and ready to read your great reasoning. Come on, don't hold back.
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I guess that's the difference in us. My daughter will be 'my kid' intil I die. I would protect her at 20, the same way I did at 3.

She wouldn't like it but, kids don't like a lot of things parents do. Being a father, you already know that.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
I guess that's the difference in us. My daughter will be 'my kid' intil I die. I would protect her at 20, the same way I did at 3.

She wouldn't like it but, kids don't like a lot of things parents do. Being a father, you already know that.
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That still doesn't justify shooting some guy for a choice your daughter makes. What happened to individual responsibility?
 
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emainvol said:
That still doesn't justify shooting some guy for a choice your daughter makes. What happened to individual responsibility?
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I would confront the person in a civil manner...the first time.

BTW, this thread isn't about me, or whether either one of you clowns like my sense of values.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
I guess that's the difference in us. My daughter will be 'my kid' intil I die. I would protect her at 20, the same way I did at 3.

She wouldn't like it but, kids don't like a lot of things parents do. Being a father, you already know that.
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First of all, you need to get it straight there are many differences between us.

My daughter will always be my kid but unlike you I am raising her with the idea that one day she will be an adult. Meaning it is my job to get her prepared to live a life where she will take on the consequences that are the results of her decisions. I would protect at her at any age but have no idea what that has to do with your scenario of killing a guy based on his age, marital status, etc.

Evidently, I know plenty more than you. Like it isn't my job to go around killing people that I don't necessarily like.
 
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allvol123 said:
First of all, you need to get it straight there are many differences between us.

My daughter will always be my kid but unlike you I am raising her with the idea that one day she will be an adult. Meaning it is my job to get her prepared to live a life where she will take on the consequences that are the results of her decisions. I would protect at her at any age but have no idea what that has to do with your scenario of killing a guy based on his age, marital status, etc.

Evidently, I know plenty more than you. Like it isn't my job to go around killing people that I don't necessarily like.
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We just agreed twice in one thread... someone better check the thermostat in hell.
 
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allvol123 said:
First of all, you need to get it straight there are many differences between us.

My daughter will always be my kid but unlike you I am raising her with the idea that one day she will be an adult. Meaning it is my job to get her prepared to live a life where she will take on the consequences that are the results of her decisions. I would protect at her at any age but have no idea what that has to do with your scenario of killing a guy based on his age, marital status, etc.

Evidently, I know plenty more than you. Like it isn't my job to go around killing people that I don't necessarily like.
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At 20 years old, 99.99% of people still have a ways to go. At 18 your job is done?

kptvol said:
This isn't a productive area of discussion. A father wouldn't murder his daughter because he disapproves of her boyfriend.
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Not in our culture. She is Iranian. Honor killing is a part of the Arab culture. We don't understand it, but they do.

I have a friend that has a Jordanian father. Extremely wealthy family. He will buy her anything she wants. However, they treat daughters different. When growing up he would introduce her 4 brothers by name, than turn to her and say, "and this is the girl". It's a culture we don't understand.
 
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At first I was thinking it was a jealous boyfriend but the cops are saying the murder weapon was found underneath the woman. That seems to change everything.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
At 20 years old, 99.99% of people still have a ways to go. At 18 your job is done?
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The job is never done as long as I am alive. That said, if she/he has not had a good foundation laid down before them by the time they are 18, well then I'd say it isn't going to happen. I get really annoyed with people that spend their entire time as parents living as if their children never made it past the age of 5.

I normally don't care to get off topic in a thread but I am bowing out on our little conversaton here. I doubt people coming to read about such a high profile topic care to read about our differences on parenting.
 
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allvol123 said:
The job is never done as long as I am alive. That said, if she/he has not had a good foundation laid down before them by the time they are 18, well then I'd say it isn't going to happen. I get really annoyed with people that spend their entire time as parents living as if their children never made it past the age of 5.

I normally don't care to get off topic in a thread but I am bowing out on our little conversaton here. I doubt people coming to read about such a high profile topic care to read about our differences on parenting.
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Agreed.
 
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First of all, my condolences to the McNair family. This tragic event is beyond any words that we as posters could relay to the family. Our duty now is to pray for them in their time of sorrow.

That being said, we need to realize that our actions have consequences and unfortunately this situation is the ultimate consequence. The story of this tragedy will surface over the next few days and we need to use it as a life lesson to our sons and daughters and in some cases ourselves.
 
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tripper said:
First of all, my condolences to the McNair family. This tragic event is beyond any words that we as posters could relay to the family. Our duty now is to pray for them in their time of sorrow.

That being said, we need to realize that our actions have consequences and unfortunately this situation is the ultimate consequence. The story of this tragedy will surface over the next few days and we need to use it as a life lesson to our sons and daughters and in some cases ourselves.
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Well Said.
 
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