Stop me if you've heard this one before (UGA)

[Delmar]

UGA clearly has a big character, discipline, and lack of intelligence issue in its football program.

If I’m an UGA fan, I’m rooting for UGA to get it under control, and to recruit kids with better character going forward. I’m not on another team’s message board trying to downplay drag racing deaths, sexual battery convictions, drag racing convictions, DUI convictions, and women hospitalized by a player’s Reckless Driving as a “traffic ticket” issue. It makes you look stupid and/or disingenuous and/or accepting poor character for your players/staff. Not a good look for you & UGA.

They’ve gone way past the Fulmer Cup and are swiftly approaching Urban Meyer territory in terms of lawbreakers.

 

[joevol33]

Can we get a mod in here to take this guy off the board?

She'll leave after they lose. Just begging for attention, because nobody cares about them.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I already took him off my board. Much more pleasant.

It didn't take me long after he revealed his character to ask for his removal, which isn't my call as I'm a guest here too.

He's ignored now and I probably shouldn't have bothered with him in the first place. I knew better than to expect much out of a dog.

 

[VAVol85]

Found the problem - it’s a graduate class at UGA:
Transportation Science 501: Identification and application of the pedal on the left

 

[VAVol85]

Starting X-receiver Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint was clocked at 90 mph in a 45.

Kirby did suspend him although it wasn't announced to media. He didn't play in Week 1.

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LOL…missed the UT Martin game - that’ll teach him!

 

[DirtyDawg]

I can understand the argument, but it works both ways. GA experienced an awful tragedy months ago bc people made some absolutely terrible decisions. No hiding from it, it was awful for many many people and for UGA. But why keep pointing your finger at anyone associated with UGA that has a traffic citation, or even gets taken to jail temporarily. Sure it’s bad behavior, but it’s not intentionally heinous. The Law is taking care of it as I’m sure UGA is. I mean these people do have rights even if they are driving excessively fast. What should UGA do? Kick them off the team, fire them? Ruin their lives for a mistake that many of us have unfortunately made?

I’m certainly not making light of the tragedy that happened, it was awful and can’t be tolerated. But you can’t ruin someone’s life just to make an example. Don’t use this tragedy in a negative way, use it to teach and build strength and character in people. Punish but don’t destroy.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

And -- yet again -- crooked law enforcement does not test for drugs and alcohol.

It's the common theme in all these incidents. A routine procedure, tellingly omitted.

Or maybe there were no signs of impairment. Cops don't conduct field sobriety on every speeding stop.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

It's considered "reckless driving" if you're speeding 20+ over the speed limit. In Georgia, they are required to take you to jail for 20+.

Can you post a link of the Georgia law that states this? I've never heard of such a thing. Tennessee code doesn't even specify a speed that's considered reckless driving.

Edit. Nevermind I looked it up myself. You're either ignorant of the law or just blatantly lying. Like Tennessee, Georgia code doesn't have a set speed over the speed limit that's considered reckless driving. So cops certainly aren't required to take you to jail for going 20+ miles an hour over the speed limit. Try harder next time.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Fire Jarvis Jones for speeding?

Should everyone be fired from their jobs for a traffic ticket?

When it's "86 mph in a 40-mph zone on West Broad Street in Athens" at a program already with 2 fatalities from speeding and more than a dozen known other violations in less than a year, someone needs to be made an example.

But what rotten luck for UGA, the only person deserving to be fired or suspended according to you died in one of the incidents.

 

[dobre_shunka]

It's interesting that Coach Kirby Smart has admitted it's a problem, has said they've failed to solve it, has had the Georgia State Patrol in to address the team specifically about speeding, and has insisted that it's NIL related because players are able to get faster cars and IN HIS WORDS tickets for faster speeds.

That's what the COACH is saying, not me.

So much for that excuse with the most recent incident with Jarvis Jones. The car was a 1984 Buick Regal and he's a staffer not a player swimming in NIL cash

 

[LouderVol]

A drunk staffer, not apart of the team, took the vehicle without permission and went against protocol. If she would of survived, would have obviously been fired.

BTW, the other alleged individual fleeing the scene was no longer part of the team or university.

Since that tragedy, some speeding tickets, like every campus everywhere.

freudian slip much?

what happened with that civil case by the survivor? She was alleging that Georgia knew about the usage, and had approved it before, even with the driver's previous issues. So history says she wouldn't have been fired, because she had previous approval.

There is a big difference in getting a speeding ticket on 85 going 10 over, and getting ARRESTED for going 30+ over on a residential road. Multiple Georgia players have been arrested for their "speeding", that is very much not an issue most drivers are going to find themselves in. there is a BIG difference in a ticket vs an arrest.

 

[LouderVol]

No, he declared for the draft right after the Natty.

so he wasn't using their facilities, wasn't attending their pro-day, wasn't celebrating their NC?

if he walks like dog, talks like a dog, attends dog events, he's a dog.

 

[LouderVol]

I can understand the argument, but it works both ways. GA experienced an awful tragedy months ago bc people made some absolutely terrible decisions. No hiding from it, it was awful for many many people and for UGA. But why keep pointing your finger at anyone associated with UGA that has a traffic citation, or even gets taken to jail temporarily. Sure it’s bad behavior, but it’s not intentionally heinous. The Law is taking care of it as I’m sure UGA is. I mean these people do have rights even if they are driving excessively fast. What should UGA do? Kick them off the team, fire them? Ruin their lives for a mistake that many of us have unfortunately made?

I’m certainly not making light of the tragedy that happened, it was awful and can’t be tolerated. But you can’t ruin someone’s life just to make an example. Don’t use this tragedy in a negative way, use it to teach and build strength and character in people. Punish but don’t destroy.

These typically aren't a first time offense, so the mistake argument flies out the window.

I haven't seen any that are for going a few miles over the speed limit. going back to Jan the lowest speed (for ONLY a speed ticket) over the limit that I have found is 15 over, and that was in a 30 mile an hour zone, so that is pretty freaking significant. several have been arrested for driving on suspended licenses, or other additional charges than JUST speeding. That does get to the point of intentional recklessness.

The point is overall control/safety. If it was only a couple 4-5 speeding tickets, yeah people wouldn't care. But when its 15 events, involving arrests, DUIs, street racing (after the deaths), reckless driving; and all happening after the head coach has publicly said multiple times that the issues have been addressed it becomes a major talking point. and it should be, people died, that brings a microscope. Look at Brian Kelly, half this message board thinks he is a terrible person after the staffer died up at ND.

because everyone knows that with all these serious cases there are going to be plenty of the "innocent" speeding events that aren't getting pushed, or other similar level offenses. especially when its been noted that the school actively works to get cases dismissed or reduced. UGA staffer had speeding history before fatal crash; county clerk claims school employee tried to reduce tickets

 

[GAVol]

Again, driving drunk and putting others lives at risk is a VERY big deal!

Driving over the speed limit is something everyone has done and most people continue to do every day.

The AJC, like most newspapers, is failing and is competing with internet gossip sites, so they've had to retract a couple of stories and fire a writer for false reports.

This guy was doing nearly 50 over in town on Broad Street. Stop acting like Officer Fife popped out from behind a tree and got him for 39 in a 35.

 

[GAVol]

What should UGA do? Kick them off the team, fire them? Ruin their lives for a mistake that many of us have unfortunately made?

I think that’s exactly what you do when you’ve got an issue with speeding on the team and a staffer gets popped for 86 mph and he’s not even on a divided Highway.

 

[05_never_again]

I think that’s exactly what you do when you’ve got an issue with speeding on the team and a staffer gets popped for 86 mph and he’s not even on a divided Highway.

IMO, the aspect of this that makes it a big story is the slew of incidents that have occurred after a FB player and a staffer were killed in a wreck where speed was a factor. If Kirby had some guys popped for going 85 in a 70 on the interstate, and that was it, that it isn't really a big deal.

However they had 2 UGA people killed in a wreck due to alcohol and speed, and after that they've had multiple guys stopped for going basically double the posted speed limit. And Kirby is like "Well, there's NIL now and these cars are really fast." The context that all of this is happening in, and their HC's apparent indifference to it, makes it bad, not any individual ticket in particular.

 

[GAVol]

IMO, the aspect of this that makes it a big story is the slew of incidents that have occurred after a FB player and a staffer were killed in a wreck where speed was a factor. If Kirby had some guys popped for going 15 over, and that was it, that it isn't really a big deal.

However they had 2 UGA people killed in a wreck due to alcohol and speed, and after that they've had multiple guys stopped for going basically double the posted speed limit. The context that all of this is happening in makes it bad, not any individual ticket in particular.

Exactly right. And I wouldn't even pay attention if this was 80 in a 65 on I-85 or out on the 10 Loop which is like an interstate or even Atlanta Highway which is divided. But if you've been around Athens much, you know how completely insane it is to be doing 86mph down Broad Street which is loaded with businesses, cross streets and red lights.

 

[GAVol]

Although, it is slightly impressive that he got a 1984 Buick Regal up to 86 mph and it didn't fly apart like Apollo 13.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Can you post a link of the Georgia law that states this? I've never heard of such a thing. Tennessee code doesn't even specify a speed that's considered reckless driving.

Edit. Nevermind I looked it up myself. You're either ignorant of the law or just blatantly lying. Like Tennessee, Georgia code doesn't have a set speed over the speed limit that's considered reckless driving. So cops certainly aren't required to take you to jail for going 20+ miles an hour over the speed limit. Try harder next time.

Could it be a local ordinance?

Having, ahem, had to study Georgia traffic laws because of various times I was driving too fast to Sunday School (true story! I was actually stopped by the GSP for speeding one Sunday morning. I was literally driving to make Sunday School. He laughed and waved me on) and have successfully defended myself in court several times. They have, or did have, a lot of nuances in the speeding laws.

 

[DirtyDawg]

I think that’s exactly what you do when you’ve got an issue with speeding on the team and a staffer gets popped for 86 mph and he’s not even on a divided Highway.

Actually yeah, I can see your point on this case. Employees should be setting the example, especially given the current climate and situation.

And even with the players. If they screw up they should face the consequences. I just don’t want to see a player get kicked off the team for making a mistake. If he continues to make them, well that’s different. I actually wish that in the more extreme cases of speeding they would start suspending license’s.

 

[GroverCleveland]

IMO, the aspect of this that makes it a big story is the slew of incidents that have occurred after a FB player and a staffer were killed in a wreck where speed was a factor. If Kirby had some guys popped for going 85 in a 70 on the interstate, and that was it, that it isn't really a big deal.

However they had 2 UGA people killed in a wreck due to alcohol and speed, and after that they've had multiple guys stopped for going basically double the posted speed limit. And Kirby is like "Well, there's NIL now and these cars are really fast." The context that all of this is happening in, and their HC's apparent indifference to it, makes it bad, not any individual ticket in particular.

Don't know about everyone on here, but probably a good thing Dad did not allow me a sports car. First speeding ticket was 17 over the speed limit when I was sixteen. In a pickup.

 

[GAVol]

Actually yeah, I can see your point on this case. Employees should be setting the example, especially given the current climate and situation.

And even with the players. If they screw up they should face the consequences. I just don’t want to see a player get kicked off the team for making a mistake. If he continues to make them, well that’s different. I actually wish that in the more extreme cases of speeding they would start suspending license’s.

It's probably something that we'll see more of. NIL = Disposable income = ability to buy Horsepower

 

[DirtyDawg]

It's probably something that we'll see more of. NIL = Disposable income = ability to buy Horsepower

Unfortunately I’m afraid you are correct. College aged males and vehicles with 500+ HP is a dangerous combination

 

[tbh]

Exactly right. And I wouldn't even pay attention if this was 80 in a 65 on I-85 or out on the 10 Loop which is like an interstate or even Atlanta Highway which is divided. But if you've been around Athens much, you know how completely insane it is to be doing 86mph down Broad Street which is loaded with businesses, cross streets and red lights.

^ This. Folks going 75-80+ on the 10 Loop is called "a normal morning commute". 86mph down Broad is crazy, even for Athghanistan.

 

[Jaxon_Vol2017]

Could it be a local ordinance?

Having, ahem, had to study Georgia traffic laws because of various times I was driving too fast to Sunday School (true story! I was actually stopped by the GSP for speeding one Sunday morning. I was literally driving to make Sunday School. He laughed and waved me on) and have successfully defended myself in court several times. They have, or did have, a lot of nuances in the speeding laws.

I don't think so. I don't know if a city ordinance can supercede state law.