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#476
#476
droski said:
whhhaaatttt?


it doesn't matter if you work more than your coworkers? you should get the same pay and advance at the same rate? the russians tried this once you know. didnt' work out too well for them.
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that's not what i said, at all. i said when you're in the same position as somebody else, what happened previously (IE paying your dues) shouldn't matter when it comes to pay grade.
 
#477
#477
kptvol said:
Dude, you suck at arguing. You think I want to get rid of maternity leave? I don't give a crap. But when a promotion is coming up, who's going to get it? The chick that's 5 months pregnant and could be missing a lot of work in the near future? The chick that's just coming back after a long hiatus? Or the guy that's been busting his ass and shows no sign of slowing down. Women are going to fall behind because of that stuff. It's just the way it is.
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and that's illegal. that's just the way it is. you suck at knowing the law
 
#478
#478
Cash Vallin said:
i guess you haven't read anything i've posted.
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you haven't posted a single study that has shown otherwise. i have posted a study that shows that men work more hours than women, men are willing to work in more dangerous jobs than women (which are better paying) and men are willing to relocate more than women. arguing that these factors have nothign to do with the pay disparity is absurd.
 
#479
#479
Cash Vallin said:
paying your dues DO NOT matter. If you are in the SAME position as somebody (IE the company thought you were just as qualified despite not "paying your dues." though, i think, continuing the human race is paying dues but maybe that's just me), you should get equal pay. It's not happening.
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this is almost funny. Further humor in the fact that you think private companies are playing social experiment with demographics, when they're measured by returns and meeting stakeholder demands.
 
#481
#481
Cash Vallin said:
that's not what i said, at all. i said when you're in the same position as somebody else, what happened previously (IE paying your dues) shouldn't matter when it comes to pay grade.
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so we should ignore how hard someone worked in the past? don't you think that past hard work might indicate FUTURE hard work?
 
#482
#482
Cash Vallin said:
that's not what i said, at all. i said when you're in the same position as somebody else, what happened previously (IE paying your dues) shouldn't matter when it comes to pay grade.
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Yeah, the guy that's better at his job definitely doesn't need to be making more.
 
#483
#483
droski said:
you haven't posted a single study that has shown otherwise. i have posted a study that shows that men work more hours than women, men are willing to work in more dangerous jobs than women (which are better paying) and men are willing to relocate more than women. arguing that these factors have nothign to do with the pay disparity is absurd.
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yeah, i have. you choose to ignore it.
 
#484
#484
BigPapaVol said:
this is almost funny. Further humor in the fact that you think private companies are playing social experiment with demographics, when they're measured by returns and meeting stakeholder demands.
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garbage. no public company would want to hire equally qualified people for 40% less to do exactly the same job.
 
#489
#489
tvolsfan said:
Agreed. It's all about keeping women down.
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the likelihood of an exceptionally talented, high earning woman sticking around for the corner office is extremely remote. Wonder if that's in our rocket scientist's demographic analysis disaster.
 
#491
#491
tvolsfan said:
No it's not, and no it isn't.
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ummmm, yes it is. a woman can NOT be denied a job or an advancement based on her being pregnant or based on the possibility of her being pregnant.

Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978
This law was drawn up to close the above-mentioned loophole. This legislation stipulated that all employers treat pregnant and non-pregnant employees in the same way, both in terms of benefits received and all other respects.

Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993
When it passed in 1993, the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) was hailed as a ground-breaking law that provided important federal protections for both men and women faced with issues related to pregnancy, childbirth, adoption, placement for foster care, and family sickness. It was bitterly opposed by some segments of the business community, but family advocates ultimately prevailed. The FMLA stipulates that men and women may take as many as 12 weeks of unpaid leave annually for the birth or adoption of a child, care of a sick child, placement for foster care, or because of morning sickness or other illness (the illness does not have to be pregnancy-related). Employers and employees alike should note, however, that the FMLA does not impact businesses with fewer than 50 employees.
 
#492
#492
Cash Vallin said:
ummmm, yes it is. a woman can NOT be denied a job or an advancement based on her being pregnant or based on the possibility of her being pregnant.

Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978
This law was drawn up to close the above-mentioned loophole. This legislation stipulated that all employers treat pregnant and non-pregnant employees in the same way, both in terms of benefits received and all other respects.

Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993
When it passed in 1993, the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) was hailed as a ground-breaking law that provided important federal protections for both men and women faced with issues related to pregnancy, childbirth, adoption, placement for foster care, and family sickness. It was bitterly opposed by some segments of the business community, but family advocates ultimately prevailed. The FMLA stipulates that men and women may take as many as 12 weeks of unpaid leave annually for the birth or adoption of a child, care of a sick child, placement for foster care, or because of morning sickness or other illness (the illness does not have to be pregnancy-related). Employers and employees alike should note, however, that the FMLA does not impact businesses with fewer than 50 employees.
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Don't give me that crap. A business can hire whoever they damn well please, unless it's not a free market.
 
#493
#493
droski said:
repost it
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We Have Always Done It That Way CEO Gender Pay Inequity

The figure shows that for an association with an average staff size of 21-50, male CEOs make an average of $243,000 annually compared to $181,000 for their female counterparts. Maybe not so surprising to you, but what is appalling is that in the 2004 study the report indicates the following male/female amounts $231,000/$173,000 respectively.

The 2004 difference is $58,000. You would expect that the gap is closing, but based on this article, it is, in fact widening. The difference in 2006 is $62,000.

So why in the world is this happening? One might suggest that male CEOs report more experience, but in fact, in this study both males and females reported a median of six years experience in the position.

And let the random assumptions begin...............
 
#496
#496
Cash Vallin said:
i'm not giving you this crap. that is the law whether you like it or not. obviously, you don't like it.
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Unless a business is going to say they made a hire because the woman is pregnant, it's pretty hard to find anything illegal about it.
 
#499
#499
BigPapaVol said:
Just a small hint. When you're the lone figure having to regularly proclaim you're right, you're wrong almost inevitably.
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on a UT message board, most would disagree with my views??? Wow, i'm in utter shock. Doesn't mean they're incorrect or correct... If I went to a liberal message board, most would agree with me. Does that give the opinion anymore validity? No, not really.
 
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