Sudden Death Syndrome

[VolinWayne]

Who said anything about the media? Just show me the data. You'd rather make the point you want then get to the truth.

Given that SARS-CoV-2 infection has CRF <<<1% one has to ask the forbidden question.

 

[n_huffhines]

This increase in the death rate of working-age people appears in the CDC's Mortality database.

@DowdEdward
: "From Feb. 2021 to Mar. 2022, millennials experienced the equivalent of a Vietnam war, with more than 60,000 excess deaths.

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The excess death rate of working-age people also increased in these European nations after mRNA vaccines were introduced:

•Austria
•Spain
•Italy
•Netherlands
•Denmark
•Belgium
•France

This is infinitely more interesting (in terms of getting to the truth) than individual stories.

The first graph demonstrates that deaths went up after lockdowns/mandates and went down after vaccines and boosters were released, and this was during a time where suicides and drug overdoses increased substantially, so not sure what you want me to glean from that.

It looks like the second graph is telling me the same trends in parts of Europe but without as much detail.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

This increase in the death rate of working-age people appears in the CDC's Mortality database.

@DowdEdward
: "From Feb. 2021 to Mar. 2022, millennials experienced the equivalent of a Vietnam war, with more than 60,000 excess deaths.

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The excess death rate of working-age people also increased in these European nations after mRNA vaccines were introduced:

•Austria
•Spain
•Italy
•Netherlands
•Denmark
•Belgium
•France

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Pretty clear the spikes in deaths correlate to the exact same time periods as COVID deaths spiked.


Pretty sure the 64K excess deaths over the baseline is due to the 145K COVID deaths in 2021 for 0-64..

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

This is infinitely more interesting (in terms of getting to the truth) than individual stories.

The first graph demonstrates that deaths went up after lockdowns/mandates and went down after vaccines and boosters were released, and this was during a time where suicides and drug overdoses increased substantially, so not sure what you want me to glean from that.

It looks like the second graph is telling me the same trends in parts of Europe but without as much detail.

No, the spikes from his chart is the same timeframes where COVID deaths spiked. Really not any more complex than that.

The number of "excess deaths" is less than half of the COVID deaths from this age group in 2021...

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Given that SARS-CoV-2 infection has CRF <<<1% one has to ask the forbidden question.


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Two things to note:

1. Is the Week 52 (holiday week) an outlier or a trend? If this is a multi week trend, then yes, you may be onto something. It could also be something as simple as one day did not get reported timely due to multiple holidays that week.

2. The bottom part of your chart completely destroys your "excess death" argument you made in your prior post (.i.e., more COVID deaths than what you'd expect from the 5 year average baseline)

 

[happy-go_vol]

31yr old died suddenly. American Ido finalist. must be climate change again.

American Idol Contestant Dies Suddenly at 31 After Suffering Heart Attack - YouTube

 

[VolinWayne]

This is infinitely more interesting (in terms of getting to the truth) than individual stories.

The first graph demonstrates that deaths went up after lockdowns/mandates and went down after vaccines and boosters were released, and this was during a time where suicides and drug overdoses increased substantially, so not sure what you want me to glean from that.

It looks like the second graph is telling me the same trends in parts of Europe but without as much detail.

It appears to me that the peak that happened in September was a result of the vaccine push leading up to that point. A lot of the mandates were put into place in August and not nearly everybody waited until it was mandated.

 

[VolinWayne]

My 16-Yr Old Son Died 5-Days After Pfizer CV-19 Shot - Ernest Ramirez Sr.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

It appears to me that the peak that happened in September was a result of the vaccine push leading up to that point. A lot of the mandates were put into place in August and not nearly everybody waited until it was mandated.

Nope, it was the 60K that died that month from COVID.....

 

[Weezer]

This is a Chattanooga lunch group.
Can you drive?

I drive great, but I don't think I'm driving to Chattanooga for lunch. My road tripping days are mostly behind me. The only road trips I take now are to Nashville for doctor appts.

 

[VolinWayne]

Nope, it was the 60K that died that month from COVID.....

Even if you are trying to make that argument, looking at the graph and charts you can clearly see that covid deaths came up after vaccines were pushed onto the public. You can make an argument both ways.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Even if you are trying to make that argument, looking at the graph and charts you can clearly see that covid deaths came up after vaccines were pushed onto the public. You can make an argument both ways.

If you want to look at the Early 2021 and September 2021 spikes, over 90% of the deaths were unvaccinated....

Yeah, you can't really make an argument both ways.

 

[n_huffhines]

It appears to me that the peak that happened in September was a result of the vaccine push leading up to that point. A lot of the mandates were put into place in August and not nearly everybody waited until it was mandated.

This claims 2/3 of adults were vaccinated by the beginning of August.

KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: July 2021 | KFF

Doesn't seem possible that mandates starting in August could have caused the September spike. If mandates caused that immediate of a spike, why didn't non-mandated vaccinations from the previous 6 months cause a spike?

 

[VolinWayne]

Dr. Peter McCullough – Sudden Deaths & Cardiac Events EXPLODING, Parallel Health System

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Dr. Peter McCullough – Sudden Deaths & Cardiac Events EXPLODING, Parallel Health System

Did you seriously read that? It's just some guy trying to make a buck on his miracle cure. Zeeemedia.com.....sheesh.

 

[VolinWayne]

Did you seriously read that? It's just some guy trying to make a buck on his miracle cure. Zeeemedia.com.....sheesh.

Yeah Peter McCulough is really "just some guy" and everything he did and accomplished pre-covid doesn't matter. He was one of the many doctors who had the balls to go against the mainstream narrative and speak up about the availability of early treatment of covid and then he was also one of the doctors who very early began sounding the alarm about the safety and efficacy of the MRNA gene therapy vaccines. Because of this there has been a major campaign to smear and tarnish his name and career. Outside of his stance on Covid treatments and the vaccines you will find nothing but positive articles and reviews about his career. I feel fairly confident Dr. McCullough is qualified to have and share his opinion.

https://www.uscjournal.com/authors/peter-mccullough


Career Overview
Dr. McCullough joined the Henry Ford Heart and Vascular Institute in Detroit following his fellowship at the Beaumont Hospital, where he remained until 2000. He then moved to Kansas City, Missouri, to serve as Section Chief of Cardiology of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine, Truman Medical Centers.

After his time in Missouri, Dr. McCullough returned to Michigan to serve as a Consultant Cardiologist at the Beaumont Hospital, and also as Chief, Division of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine Division of Cardiology. In 2010, following his stint at Beaumont Hospital, he was appointed as the Chief Academic and Scientific officer of the St. John Providence Health System, also in Detroit. In 2014, Dr. McCullough joined Baylor University Medical Center as Vice Chief of Internal Medicine. He was also appointed Chief of Cardiovascular Research of the Baylor Heart and Vascular Institute, and Program Director of the Cardiovascular Disease Fellowship Program.²

Dr. McCullough is recognized internationally as a leading figure in the study of chronic kidney disease as a cardiovascular risk state, having over 1,000 publications to his name and over 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine.³ He is also a founder of the Cardio Renal Society of America, which is a group that dedicates itself to bringing cardiologists and nephrologists together to work on the increasing global issue of cardiorenal syndromes. He is the Co-Editor of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine and is also currently serving as the Chair of the National Kidney Foundation's Kidney Early Evaluation Program (KEEP), the largest community screening effort for chronic diseases in America

Recognition
Dr. McCullough received the International Vicenza Award for Critical Care Nephrology for his outstanding work and contribution in the area of cardiorenal syndromes. He has also been a recipient of the Simon Dack Award from the American College of Cardiology, and his works have appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, and other prestigious journals worldwide. He has been an invited lecturer at the New York Academy of Sciences, the National Institutes of Health, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the European Medicines Agency, and the U.S. Congressional Oversight Panel.⁵



Areas of Speciality
Coronary Artery Disease
Chronic Kidney Disease as a Cardiovascular Risk State
High Blood Pressure
High Cholesterol
Hypertension
Sports Cardiology

References
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mccullough-0842a070/
https://www.cardiometabolichealth.org/peter-mccullough.html
https://www.cardiometabolichealth.org/peter-mccullough.html
https://www.cardiorenalsociety.org/what-we-do.html
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/peter-mccullough-304612

 

[Orangeslice13]

he’s certainly not without controversy.
The Lyme disease community knows him well.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93936

Joe Rogan interview with Peter McCullough contains multiple false and unsubstantiated claims about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines

Baylor health sues COVID-19 vaccine skeptic and demands Dallas doctor stop using its name

 

[VolinWayne]

he’s certainly not without controversy.
The Lyme disease community knows him well.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93936

Joe Rogan interview with Peter McCullough contains multiple false and unsubstantiated claims about the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccines

Baylor health sues COVID-19 vaccine skeptic and demands Dallas doctor stop using its name

Yes sure, there's lots of controversy when you speak up against the accepted treatments and protocols. What's the controversy with Lyme disease?? I think there is some truth in the claims he made on the Joe Rogan show. There definitely was a coordinated effort to suppress early treatment. We all witnessed that.

Be careful how much you bash him. Apparantly he also believes that Vitamins D, C and Zinc are good for your immune system. Such a quack

North Texas Doctor Recovers from COVID-19 Using Hydroxychloroquine

McCullough, who is widely published and works with two well-known Texas medical institutions, first issued his suggested protocol in the American Journal of Medicine in August.

Recently, he updated his advice and released a video explaining the guidance.

The vitamin and supplement protocol includes three items: zinc sulfate, Vitamin D3, and Vitamin C. McCullough said he doesn’t have any evidence to believe these help prevent contracting the illness, but he believes they should be included in the early treatment protocol as supportive therapies.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I think you have to separate McCullough the cardiologist/physician and McCullough the data analyst.

I do not have the medical expertise to push back on his medical credentials but I have enough (and married enough) expertise to push back on his data analytics that he purports as facts..

McCullough has continued to push data analytical studies that do not conform to any generally accepted statistical standard, are apples to oranges to tangerines, are widely debunked for methodology, etc. (I.e. comparing the death rates of 19 year olds who die during a sport from a verified cardiac arrest to 61 year old non-athletes with pre-existing conditions (Mike Leach)....

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yeah Peter McCulough is really "just some guy" and everything he did and accomplished pre-covid doesn't matter. He was one of the many doctors who had the balls to go against the mainstream narrative and speak up about the availability of early treatment of covid and then he was also one of the doctors who very early began sounding the alarm about the safety and efficacy of the MRNA gene therapy vaccines. Because of this there has been a major campaign to smear and tarnish his name and career. Outside of his stance on Covid treatments and the vaccines you will find nothing but positive articles and reviews about his career. I feel fairly confident Dr. McCullough is qualified to have and share his opinion.

https://www.uscjournal.com/authors/peter-mccullough


Career Overview
Dr. McCullough joined the Henry Ford Heart and Vascular Institute in Detroit following his fellowship at the Beaumont Hospital, where he remained until 2000. He then moved to Kansas City, Missouri, to serve as Section Chief of Cardiology of the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine, Truman Medical Centers.

After his time in Missouri, Dr. McCullough returned to Michigan to serve as a Consultant Cardiologist at the Beaumont Hospital, and also as Chief, Division of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine Division of Cardiology. In 2010, following his stint at Beaumont Hospital, he was appointed as the Chief Academic and Scientific officer of the St. John Providence Health System, also in Detroit. In 2014, Dr. McCullough joined Baylor University Medical Center as Vice Chief of Internal Medicine. He was also appointed Chief of Cardiovascular Research of the Baylor Heart and Vascular Institute, and Program Director of the Cardiovascular Disease Fellowship Program.²

Dr. McCullough is recognized internationally as a leading figure in the study of chronic kidney disease as a cardiovascular risk state, having over 1,000 publications to his name and over 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine.³ He is also a founder of the Cardio Renal Society of America, which is a group that dedicates itself to bringing cardiologists and nephrologists together to work on the increasing global issue of cardiorenal syndromes. He is the Co-Editor of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine and is also currently serving as the Chair of the National Kidney Foundation's Kidney Early Evaluation Program (KEEP), the largest community screening effort for chronic diseases in America

Recognition
Dr. McCullough received the International Vicenza Award for Critical Care Nephrology for his outstanding work and contribution in the area of cardiorenal syndromes. He has also been a recipient of the Simon Dack Award from the American College of Cardiology, and his works have appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the American Medical Association, and other prestigious journals worldwide. He has been an invited lecturer at the New York Academy of Sciences, the National Institutes of Health, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the European Medicines Agency, and the U.S. Congressional Oversight Panel.⁵



Areas of Speciality
Coronary Artery Disease
Chronic Kidney Disease as a Cardiovascular Risk State
High Blood Pressure
High Cholesterol
Hypertension
Sports Cardiology

References
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-mccullough-0842a070/
16th Annual Cardiometabolic Health Congress, 2021 | Cardiometabolic Health Congress
16th Annual Cardiometabolic Health Congress, 2021 | Cardiometabolic Health Congress
https://www.cardiorenalsociety.org/what-we-do.html
https://health.usnews.com/doctors/peter-mccullough-304612

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[VolinWayne]

I can already hear kiddiedoc huffing, puffing, and salivating over the erotic mini novel you just copy/pasted.

Are you saying my mini novel doesn't have that affect on you? I'm devastated

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yes sure, there's lots of controversy when you speak up against the accepted treatments and protocols. What's the controversy with Lyme disease?? I think there is some truth in the claims he made on the Joe Rogan show. There definitely was a coordinated effort to suppress early treatment. We all witnessed that.

Be careful how much you bash him. Apparantly he also believes that Vitamins D, C and Zinc are good for your immune system. Such a quack

North Texas Doctor Recovers from COVID-19 Using Hydroxychloroquine

McCullough, who is widely published and works with two well-known Texas medical institutions, first issued his suggested protocol in the American Journal of Medicine in August.

Recently, he updated his advice and released a video explaining the guidance.

The vitamin and supplement protocol includes three items: zinc sulfate, Vitamin D3, and Vitamin C. McCullough said he doesn’t have any evidence to believe these help prevent contracting the illness, but he believes they should be included in the early treatment protocol as supportive therapies.

his opinion changed so much on Lyme it became obvious it was based on how much money he thought he could make.
Being sued for misleading your job title after being asked to stop is a huge red flag.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Just because a guy kinda sorta agrees with me in one area …..the data is conclusive even though he says it’s not…..doesn’t mean he gets a pass for being a lying hypocrite in other areas.
This is the same standard I hold the climate hypocrites too

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Yes sure, there's lots of controversy when you speak up against the accepted treatments and protocols. What's the controversy with Lyme disease?? I think there is some truth in the claims he made on the Joe Rogan show. There definitely was a coordinated effort to suppress early treatment. We all witnessed that.

Be careful how much you bash him. Apparantly he also believes that Vitamins D, C and Zinc are good for your immune system. Such a quack

North Texas Doctor Recovers from COVID-19 Using Hydroxychloroquine

McCullough, who is widely published and works with two well-known Texas medical institutions, first issued his suggested protocol in the American Journal of Medicine in August.

Recently, he updated his advice and released a video explaining the guidance.

The vitamin and supplement protocol includes three items: zinc sulfate, Vitamin D3, and Vitamin C. McCullough said he doesn’t have any evidence to believe these help prevent contracting the illness, but he believes they should be included in the early treatment protocol as supportive therapies.

The king of pivot does it again.

 

[VolinWayne]

The king of pivot does it again.

Whatever....Pivoting is saying no way these vaccines Trump is pushing to make available to the public in under a year will be safe followed by you are a worthless human being if you don't get the jab.

Pivoting is making claims that you won't catch or spread covid if you are vaccinated and 1 year later when thats proven false saying the vaccine is only to decrease the severity of the infection.

Pivoting is saying the vaccines are totally safe and there are no vaccine injuries and then when this is proven false pivoting to 'the vaccines still saved way more lives then they caused harm.

Pivoting is saying masks don't work, then saying masks do work followed by you don't need them after all.

Pivoting is saying natural immunity is best (per Fauci) and then when the pandemic comes natural immunity doesn't work and now suddenly we all know (like we did all along) that natural immunity is best.

Pivoting is what the media has done so many times over the past 6 years starting with
Russian Collusion lie that turned into they made it all up to the Bidens Laptop story is fake news and now it's way to true to even imagine.